Xbox Series X / S

NR7 said:
The Wifi on the Series X really annoys me, miles behind PS5.

My Series X downloads at 180-240Mbps, meanwhile the PS5 10cm away on Wifi 6 does 400-460Mbps :cautious:
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That's because Ps5 supports WIFI 6, but the PS5 lacks the ability to copy a game from other consoles.

So yeah both have pros and cons :P
 
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AlphaJohn said:
That's because Ps5 supports WIFI 6, but the PS5 lacks the ability to copy a game from other consoles.

So yeah both have pros and cons :p
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Not a major con, if you have a PS4 just stick the stuff on an external and all you have to do is plug it into a PS5 for it to be recognized.
And the PS5 can be expanded with a 1TB PCIE 4.0 NVME for R2800 while the Xbox Proprietary Expansion NVME is a whopping R4700.


Maybe one day we will see Microsoft bringing out a Series Elite with Wifi 6E, enhanced haptics on a new Elite controller, M.2 support of some kind, etc.
 
NR7 said:
Not a major con, if you have a PS4 just stick the stuff on an external and all you have to do is plug it into a PS5 for it to be recognized.
And the PS5 can be expanded with a 1TB PCIE 4.0 NVME for R2800 while the Xbox Proprietary Expansion NVME is a whopping R4700.


Maybe one day we will see Microsoft bringing out a Series Elite with Wifi 6E, enhanced haptics on a new Elite controller, M.2 support of some kind, etc.
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R2.7k for the 1TB PS5 expansion (Wootware) and R4.4k for the Xbox (BT Games). For R4.9k you can get a 2TB drive for the PS5 which I'd personally prefer. But yeah, PS5 took a vastly more pro-consumer approach to storage expansion. I suspect that Seagate is making a similar margin but paying a hefty royalty to Microsoft.

Thanks to Game Pass Ultimate I think the economics still work out in Microsoft's favour. And MS should get a few points for still using regular AA batteries in their controllers. They're so much more convenient. Just swap them out when they're low, no need for cables ever and recharge them separately.

NR7 said:
The Wifi on the Series X really annoys me, miles behind PS5.

My Series X downloads at 180-240Mbps, meanwhile the PS5 10cm away on Wifi 6 does 400-460Mbps :cautious:
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There's nothing wrong with the Wi-Fi in the Series X as far as I'm aware. Using the network test tool I get 500Mbps without issue, although my console is wired up so I don't care.

My biggest issue, by far, with the Series X has been the download speeds. They are rarely above 150Mbps and often more like 60Mbps. It does my head in.

Nintendo, Sony, Valve, Epic, Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA etc. do not own their own cloud platform and yet can provide downloads at your max line speed almost always. Somehow Microsoft, who own and use Azure for Xbox services, cannot manage the same. What in the actual F is going on.
 
Bryn said:
And MS should get a few points for still using regular AA batteries in their controllers. They're so much more convenient. Just swap them out when they're low, no need for cables ever and recharge them separately.
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I'll dock MS some points for not releasing a first party dock and compatible rechargeable battery packs. My Dualsense controllers sit in their charging station and are always ready to go, don't think I've needed the cables in months.
Xbox controllers on the other hand, while they last ages on Energizer Lithiums they are completely unpredicable. Battery life shows 3/4 or 1/2, and then in the middle of a game it just goes off.
 
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NR7 said:
I'll dock MS some points for not releasing a first party dock and compatible rechargeable battery packs. My Dualsense controllers sit in their charging station and are always ready to go, don't think I've needed the cables in months.
Xbox controllers on the other hand, while they last ages on Energizer Lithiums they are completely unpredicable. Battery life shows 3/4 or 1/2, and then in the middle of a game it just goes off.
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There is an official play and charge kit for Series X for R500. Currently it's out of stock everywhere (hopefully not discontinued) but it's been widely available for ages.

If you're using regular AA batteries, you'll likely use them until they die and disrupt your game. But with rechargeables, you may as well immediately swap them out when you first get the low battery warning. Leaving Dualsense controllers permanently plugged in to charge via a dock is surely not good for their long-term battery health?
 
Bryn said:
There is an official play and charge kit for Series X for R500. Currently it's out of stock everywhere (hopefully not discontinued) but it's been widely available for ages.

If you're using regular AA batteries, you'll likely use them until they die and disrupt your game. But with rechargeables, you may as well immediately swap them out when you first get the low battery warning. Leaving Dualsense controllers permanently plugged in to charge via a dock is surely not good for their long-term battery health?
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I have a play and charge kit. Its kak. Last just as long as my PS5's battery that is also sht.

Pack of Energisers is cheaper & lasts waaay longer per charge and you can have 2 sets that you can swap on the fly, easy.
 
AlphaJohn said:
I have a play and charge kit. Its kak. Last just as long as my PS5's battery that is also sht.

Pack of Energisers is cheaper & lasts waaay longer per charge and you can have 2 sets that you can swap on the fly, easy.
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Bryn said:
R2.7k for the 1TB PS5 expansion (Wootware) and R4.4k for the Xbox (BT Games). For R4.9k you can get a 2TB drive for the PS5 which I'd personally prefer. But yeah, PS5 took a vastly more pro-consumer approach to storage expansion. I suspect that Seagate is making a similar margin but paying a hefty royalty to Microsoft.

Thanks to Game Pass Ultimate I think the economics still work out in Microsoft's favour. And MS should get a few points for still using regular AA batteries in their controllers. They're so much more convenient. Just swap them out when they're low, no need for cables ever and recharge them separately.


There's nothing wrong with the Wi-Fi in the Series X as far as I'm aware. Using the network test tool I get 500Mbps without issue, although my console is wired up so I don't care.

My biggest issue, by far, with the Series X has been the download speeds. They are rarely above 150Mbps and often more like 60Mbps. It does my head in.

Nintendo, Sony, Valve, Epic, Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA etc. do not own their own cloud platform and yet can provide downloads at your max line speed almost always. Somehow Microsoft, who own and use Azure for Xbox services, cannot manage the same. What in the actual F is going on.
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MS went for a more plug and play way of doing it, Sony went for "consumer" friendly but you need to open your PS5.
 
Lupus said:
MS went for a more plug and play way of doing it, Sony went for "consumer" friendly but you need to open your PS5.
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Yeah its just a pity they did not go the USB C 3 gen 2 route. I mean it is 10GB/s capable so waaay above what is needed.

Simple USB C Case + NVME would give you both hot swap + consumer friendly.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Yeah its just a pity they did not go the USB C 3 gen 2 route. I mean it is 10GB/s capable so waaay above what is needed.

Simple USB C Case + NVME would give you both hot swap + consumer friendly.
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Lupus said:
Perhaps on my third playthrough the last 2 achievements will actually unlock.
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Well they also had loads of misc bug fixes, so there is hope :D

I never go out to get achievements so I probably sit with loads of them in various games at 99% I find them to be artificial padding on game time. I finish a game and move on, don't have time to go look for that last paper to unlock said back-pack that I'll never use.
 
AlphaJohn said:
Well they also had loads of misc bug fixes, so there is hope :D

I never go out to get achievements so I probably sit with loads of them in varies games at 99%
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Yeah but these are literally the last 2, for ending the side missions and the main quest lines :-). The other ones for locations and journal were unlocked, but this stupid game also can't do couch-co-op properly, you need to restart a game to do it.
 
Bryn said:
There is an official play and charge kit for Series X for R500. Currently it's out of stock everywhere (hopefully not discontinued) but it's been widely available for ages.

If you're using regular AA batteries, you'll likely use them until they die and disrupt your game. But with rechargeables, you may as well immediately swap them out when you first get the low battery warning. Leaving Dualsense controllers permanently plugged in to charge via a dock is surely not good for their long-term battery health?
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I know but the idea is to avoid cables, best way to do that is with a dock like Sony. The play and charge kit has been out of stock for months anyway.

My two controllers are doing okay on ps5. I've never run out of battery life. Recently I watched a 2 hour movie using earphones on my dualsense and played an hour of Madden, controller didn't even drop a bar. Think the longest stint I've done was maybe 5 hours with Horizon Forbidden West which used haptics and adaptive triggers, it still had a bar left before going back into the dock. There's a second controller waiting in the dock so swopping is easy enough.

Oh and I've never gotten a low battery notification on Xbox. Always just switches off. Weird, maybe thats how it works with aa batteries.
 
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NR7 said:
I know but the idea is to avoid cables, best way to do that is with a dock like Sony. The play and charge kit has been out of stock for months anyway.
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You can always buy a 3rd party dock some even allow you to dock PS5 & Xbox at the same time.

NR7 said:
My two controllers are doing okay on ps5. I've never run out of battery life. Recently I watched a 2 hour movie using earphones on my dualsense and played an hour of Madden, controller didn't even drop a bar. Think the longest stint I've done was maybe 5 hours with Horizon Forbidden West which used haptics and adaptive triggers, it still had a bar left before going back into the dock. There's a second controller waiting in the dock so swopping is easy enough.
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I have ran out of power loads of times on PS5, 6 hours in my eyes is ****. On Xbox I can play for a week on a single set.

NR7 said:
Oh and I've never gotten a low battery notification on Xbox. Always just switches off. Weird, maybe thats how it works with aa batteries.
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Must be just you or the batteries you use?
Mine always pops up a warning on screen when batteries are low.
 
AlphaJohn said:
You can always buy a 3rd party dock some even allow you to dock PS5 & Xbox at the same time.



I have ran out of power loads of times on PS5, 6 hours in my eyes is ****. On Xbox I can play for a week on a single set.



Must be just you or the batteries you use?
Mine always pops up a warning on screen when batteries are low.
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I've used rechargeables for my series X since 2020, always get the low battery warning like an hour before it'll switch off.
The other nice thing is, I can just swap batteries and keep playing, don't have to have another controller and you can play for ages on a set of AA, my energizers is like probably 30 hours, the pk cells maybe 20, the uniross are 30 hours as well
 
Lupus said:
I've used rechargeables for my series X since 2020, always get the low battery warning like an hour before it'll switch off.
The other nice thing is, I can just swap batteries and keep playing, don't have to have another controller and you can play for ages on a set of AA, my energizers is like probably 30 hours, the pk cells maybe 20, the uniross are 30 hours as well
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Have 2 Xbox Series & 2 PS5 controllers.

1 PS5 controller is on my PS3 in the bedroom and the other is on PS5. I cant really swap mid play as it needs to bind it 1st so when battery dies I normally switch to Xbox to play.

1 Xbox controller is on Series S in bedroom with play and charge and I have AA's in the lounge on Series X. Swapped to rechargeable on series X cause the play & charge only lasted for 5 hours at a time, granted I bought it back in 2017 for my then Xbox One controller on my gaming PC. Swapped said Xbox One controller for a PS2 a while back but kept the play and charge kit.

I literally swap the AA every Friday and they last an entire week and then some, I just like to have a fresh set for a weekend.
 
Lupus said:
I've used rechargeables for my series X since 2020, always get the low battery warning like an hour before it'll switch off.
The other nice thing is, I can just swap batteries and keep playing, don't have to have another controller and you can play for ages on a set of AA, my energizers is like probably 30 hours, the pk cells maybe 20, the uniross are 30 hours as well
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The nice thing about AAs is you're in control of the batteries. It's not some proprietary thing that you need to hunt down when it will eventually start dying.

I'm actually about to pull the trigger on these...

https://www.takealot.com/rechargeab...atteries-usb-charger-not-for-spe/PLID72594525
 
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