Microsoft satisfaction rating nears historical low

If there were more touchscreen Surface tablets & notebooks around, with lower prices, Windows 8 could have worked.

But it's just plain stupid to run a tablet OS on a desktop PC.
 
kingrob said:
If there were more touchscreen Surface tablets & notebooks around, with lower prices, Windows 8 could have worked.
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10% of notebooks being sold are now touchscreen, this figure will just keep going up as the manufacturers refresh their production lines.

kingrob said:
But it's just plain stupid to run a tablet OS on a desktop PC.
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Agreed, which is why I hit the Windows key on bootup, then I don't see the touch interface all day :) Or the next day, if I put my PC in to standby - it wakes up straight to desktop. The only stupidity in the equation is the person trying to use the metro apps with his mouse/keyboard :)
 
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elvis_presley said:
Agreed, which is why I hit the Windows key on bootup, then I don't see the touch interface all day :) Or the next day, if I put my PC in to standby - it wakes up straight to desktop.
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I'm still trying to understand what Microsoft's reasoning was to put live tiles on your start menu.

Do people start their computers and then sit and stare at the Start menu for two hours?

And they took away Windows Aero. Baastids.
 
I have stayed away from Windows 8 completely.
After trying the Developer Preview for a few weeks I realised it was not for me and that it would also most likely confuse a lot of my clients.
But I have still been installing a lot of Windows 7 copies in the meanwhile.

Will wait and see what the 8.1 update brings to the table.
 
cerebus said:
That one bugs me as well. What was the point? Without Aero Win8 looks like Basic edition. They should have gone even further on Aero imo.
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Exactly. Even the Intel onboard graphics runs Aero like a boss.

But I read the real reason....Microsoft wanted to preserve battery life on the tablets with lower specs, cos it chowed a bit of CPU time. That's also the reason why all menus, etc are flat in Windows 8.

It's an OS made for lower powered & specced hardware. No wonder people are saying "it's so much faster than Windows 7!".
 
kingrob said:
I'm still trying to understand what Microsoft's reasoning was to put live tiles on your start menu.
Do people start their computers and then sit and stare at the Start menu for two hours?
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You have to admit, the start menu has overstayed its welcome. It was born in the 640x480 days where you needed this hierarchical, fiddly thing to fit all your programs in. Bigger screens and OS advances brought pinned apps, and almost all people can fit all their apps on there. I rarely have to go to the launcher (be it start menu or start screen) to launch an app, and when I do, it's the same keystrokes on both systems - winkey, type start of name, hit enter.

Whether the start screen was the correct answer is debatable, but most users I know started moving away from using the start menu regularly years ago - it needed some kind of rethink.
 
elvis_presley said:
You have to admit, the start menu has overstayed its welcome. It was born in the 640x480 days where you needed this hierarchical, fiddly thing to fit all your programs in. Bigger screens and OS advances brought pinned apps, and almost all people can fit all their apps on there. I rarely have to go to the launcher (be it start menu or start screen) to launch an app, and when I do, it's the same keystrokes on both systems - winkey, type start of name, hit enter.

Whether the start screen was the correct answer is debatable, but most users I know started moving away from using the start menu regularly years ago - it needed some kind of rethink.
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Dude. You want to tell me users want to move away from the Windows Start Menu? Then they are simply morons, cos it must be the easiest shortcut bar ever invented in history.

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I use my Start Menu all the time.
 
kingrob said:
I use my Start Menu all the time.
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I don't doubt you do. But most people pin their apps. Not only are they easier to access, but they're in a defined place in the taskbar, launched or not. Plus you can hit winkey-n where n=number of icon in the taskbar to jump/launch the app. It's simply the best way to organise your shortcuts.

On another note, Winkey-X is a hidden Win8 gem for power users.

Nero Burning ROM? NOOO! Please tell me you installed that on a dare!
 
kingrob said:
Exactly. Even the Intel onboard graphics runs Aero like a boss.

But I read the real reason....Microsoft wanted to preserve battery life on the tablets with lower specs, cos it chowed a bit of CPU time. That's also the reason why all menus, etc are flat in Windows 8.

It's an OS made for lower powered & specced hardware. No wonder people are saying "it's so much faster than Windows 7!".
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Makes sense, I'd take faster boot times personally than fancy aero which added nothing much to Vista and 7 except looks.

Windows 8 honestly takes too much flack for such a great product. I have a PC on Windows 7 and a laptop on 8 and I honestly don't like 7 that much any more. The biggest issue with it has been users not wanting to adapt to a new OS "that doesn't look like Windows 7". It's stable, fast, and the core OS is still windows, aside from the Start Menu/Start Screen. Complaints I have with the OS is I wish ALL apps would default to horizontal mouse scrolling (where you you just drag your mouse in the direction you want the Start Screen to scroll), as well as a more intuitive or optional exit option in apps in addition to drag and drop. I don't like having to try and find the horizontal bar at the bottom and scrolling. Funny enough people love Linux and OSX, which one could argue "don't work or look like windows", and justifiably understandable from my POV.

But to each their own!
 
kingrob said:
Dude. You want to tell me users want to move away from the Windows Start Menu? Then they are simply morons, cos it must be the easiest shortcut bar ever invented in history.

Windows7StartMenu_zps9b23ebf4.jpg


I use my Start Menu all the time.
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You do know in Win 8, hovering over the right charm bar and searching works EXACTLY the same as Search Programs and Files right?

Again emphasis on people just not wanting to change from what they know, not realizing sometimes the exact same option exists. You can Pin programs on the Start Screen, like you would your Nero Burning Rom :D, and still have your taskbar to pin more programs there too. I spend most of my OS time in desktop mode but moving through search, start screen and apps in the left charm bar is soooooo easy!

Windows 8 for the average person might be tedious though!
 
elvis_presley said:
I don't doubt you do. But most people pin their apps. Not only are they easier to access, but they're in a defined place in the taskbar, launched or not. Plus you can hit winkey-n where n=number of icon in the taskbar to jump/launch the app. It's simply the best way to organise your shortcuts.

On another note, Winkey-X is a hidden Win8 gem for power users.

Nero Burning ROM? NOOO! Please tell me you installed that on a dare!
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What is wrong with Nero 12? It burns blu-ray discs like a champ & music cds for my car.

Are you still trying to be an evangelist for Windows 8? ROFL!

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purpleonlineadmin said:
You do know in Win 8, hovering over the right charm bar and searching works EXACTLY the same as Search Programs and Files right?

Again emphasis on people just not wanting to change from what they know, not realizing sometimes the exact same option exists. You can Pin programs on the Start Screen, like you would your Nero Burning Rom :D, and still have your taskbar to pin more programs there too. I spend most of my OS time in desktop mode but moving through search, start screen and apps in the left charm bar is soooooo easy!

Windows 8 for the average person might be tedious though!
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Fortunately for Microsoft there are people like you, who keeps on trying to polish the turd.
 
kingrob said:
Are you still trying to be an evangelist for Windows 8? ROFL![/IMG]
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Nope, just trying to offer some helpful advice - it appears you haven't kept up with the UI changes that Vista and Win7 brought, might be time to experience the new and improved features Windows has brought us in the last decade :)

Please tell your kitty to stop putting its moves on me. Not interested. Bloody tabbies. Typical.
 
My personal opinion is that windows 8 should have more breadcrumbs. Ask some1 that never worked on 8 where to get metro or how to shutdown a win8 PC. They should have put buttons in the corners so people can see from a glans where to go.

and if one doesn't know the keyboard shortcuts then win 8 is very hard to find any advance stuff.
 
kingrob said:
Fortunately for Microsoft there are people like you, who keeps on trying to polish the turd.
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What turd? Does the search in the charm not work EXACTLY like Search Programs and Files? I'm explaining that the alternative exists, problem is either lack of knowledge in its existence or just total resistance to a new UI! Everything you are used to in Windows 7 exists in Windows 8, just a different UI, I know this because I sometimes use both at the same exact time. :whistle:

For a person still pinning Nero on the Start Menu in 2013, I'd stay far away from the "people like you" comments:D
 
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