MWEB WiMax trial to continue

Prometheus said:
Ummm... maybe they were supposed to be offering a real service by now. :confused:
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If you are asking why MWeb is still trialling WiMax, lift any finger and point it in the direction of !CASA: the telecoms industry is being severely retarded by !CASA that first needs to complete its licence conversion process, and will only then officially start allocating slices of radio spectrum to those companies that survive the licence conversion process.

PS: I'm not an MWeb fan, but I do applaud MWeb for taking the risk and investing in a trial WiMax network considering that Poison Ivy at the Dementia of Communistications ultimately seems to decide who gets allocated spectrum and licences.
 
arf9999 said:
sssssssssshhhhh! real service costs money...
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I for one have no problem paying a reasonable price for a reliable service. In this case, it would depend heavily on whether the MWeb Soweto tower can reach my home for suffcient signal strength or whether they plan to rollout a tower in Florida. I'm currently stuck inbetween these larger condensed areas so there's a definite gap in terms of general wireless coverage. With the *somewhat* larger footprint WiMax is supposed to have, it may just prove a viable alternative to my ADSL copper woes.

Only time and possibly tests will tell.
 
LifelongGamer said:
I for one have no problem paying a reasonable price for a reliable service. In this case, it would depend heavily on whether the MWeb Soweto tower can reach my home for suffcient signal strength or whether they plan to rollout a tower in Florida. I'm currently stuck inbetween these larger condensed areas so there's a definite gap in terms of general wireless coverage. With the *somewhat* larger footprint WiMax is supposed to have, it may just prove a viable alternative to my ADSL copper woes.

Only time and possibly tests will tell.
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what about telkom wimax?
 
arf9999 said:
what about telkom wimax?
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LLG [-]is[/-] appears to be in an area where Telkodemonopolies does [-]provide[/-] peddle its crappy copper & ADSL service, so I expect LLG has discovered that Telkodemonopolies refuses to provide WiMax where ADSL is available.
 
the difficulty mweb faces here is that it is nigh on impossible to figure out when the frequency they want will become available and how many are competing for it

icasa needs to (a) finish licence conversion with particular reference to the, now delayed, conversion of VANS into ECNS licences and then (b) finalise its investigation into the allocation of frequency where demand outstrips supply with particular reference to 2.6 and 3.5GHz and then (c) actually conduct the frequency auction or other process settled on in (b) to decide who gets what frequency
 
arf9999 said:
sssssssssshhhhh! real service costs money...
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And MWeb doesn't have money?
ic said:
If you are asking why MWeb is still trialling WiMax, lift any finger and point it in the direction of !CASA: the telecoms industry is being severely retarded by !CASA that first needs to complete its licence conversion process, and will only then officially start allocating slices of radio spectrum to those companies that survive the licence conversion process.

PS: I'm not an MWeb fan, but I do applaud MWeb for taking the risk and investing in a trial WiMax network considering that Poison Ivy at the Dementia of Communistications ultimately seems to decide who gets allocated spectrum and licences.
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I can accept that. I was under the impression that some WiMax licences had already been allocated. Telkom is providing it on a permanent basis and Vodacom is trialling it under one of these. I don't see much hope if MWeb can't secure itself a permanent licence and instead only trial licences. Meanwhile others like Sentech is simply sitting on valuable spectrum that could be used.
 
Prometheus said:
I can accept that. I was under the impression that some WiMax licences had already been allocated. Telkom is providing it on a permanent basis and Vodacom is trialling it under one of these. I don't see much hope if MWeb can't secure itself a permanent licence and instead only trial licences. Meanwhile others like Sentech is simply sitting on valuable spectrum that could be used.
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WiMax spectrum was ministerially 'allocated' by Poison Ivy no less [BTW, it is !CASA's job alone to allocate radio spectrum] - probably after some doughnut binge, to Sentech, Telkodemonopolies, NeeTel, and iBurst SA [aka WBS].

Sentech has AFAIK done absolutely nothing with that WiMax spectrum, i.e. wasted.

Telkodemonopolies refuses to provide WiMax in areas where ADSL is available - even if it's an area where only a maximum of 384kbits/s [downlink speed] ADSL is available, while Telkodemonopolies' WiMax is up to 512kbits/s [downlink speed] - certainly better than exorbitantly priced 384kbits/s ADSL with the compulsory double line rental charges - at least Telkodemonopolies' WiMax would be slightly faster for about the same double ADSL line rental fee price. Also, Telkodemonopolies has for years, been trialling the non-mobile version of WiMax which WiMax vendors have been touting for years.

NeeTel as we all know has not even launched any commercially available services for ordinary consumers to use, so the WiMax spectrum ministerially assigned to NeeTel has been going to waste.

Vodacom is trialling the mobile version of WiMax [only recently available AFAIK] using iBurst SA's ministerially allocated WiMax spectrum.

In addition to the above, several other companies have been trialling WiMax using "test licences", one of these is MWeb.
 
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Roman4604 said:
Many are hoping Xohm will drive practical real-world standardisation & interoperability ... sort of defacto style ... check out whose involved here.
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The 'standards' world is hugely political. Vendors will join all of the bodies but if they actually speed up or slow down a specific standard is driven by their own ambitions.

And never underestimate Qualcomm.
 
vodacom3g said:
The 'standards' world is hugely political. Vendors will join all of the bodies but if they actually speed up or slow down a specific standard is driven by their own ambitions.
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What I meant was if the Xohm network gains some measure reasonable market traction, vendors will align their interoprability efforts with it, in spite of IEEE or Forum standards/specifications.

I expect to see 'Xohm Compatible' stickers on WiMAX CPE equipment like in the early days of WiFi when 'Centrino Compatible' was worth more than strict 802.11 compliance.
 
Roman4604 said:
What I meant was if the Xohm network gains some measure reasonable market traction, vendors will align their interoprability efforts with it, in spite of IEEE or Forum standards/specifications.

I expect to see 'Xohm Compatible' stickers on WiMAX CPE equipment like in the early days of WiFi when 'Centrino Compatible' was worth more than strict 802.11 compliance.
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Hope you're right. Pardon me for being blasé about yet another consortium that's going to drive a standard. Have been watching these efforts for 30 years.
 
vodacom3g said:
yet another consortium that's going to drive a standard.
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Xohm is not really a consortium, its the marketing name for Sprint-Nextel's new 4G (as they call it) network deployment. All vendors involved are there purely for commericial gain/market share.
 
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