ANC - Western Cape independence!

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If we were to achieve our goals, spread our message and eventually rally the masses of the Cape toward secession, we would truly have the opportunity to establish a very REAL rainbow nation...

South Africa's "rainbow nation" aspirations have some fundamental problems, and it is arguably impossible to achieve a truly multicultural society, free of poverty/disillusionment anytime soon, much less in the foreseeable future. The greatest deterrence in establishing this society lies in the North of the country, not in the Cape...

The north is far too polarized:

-on the one hand you have the descendants of those Afrikaans people who left the Cape after the Great Trek. These Afrikaners are notably different from those in the Cape, with much "harder" mentalities and less commitment in helping the "new South Africa" to reach it's goals. This may be due to the racial "complexities" of the north, and the severe economic gap between the 2. The Great Trek historical aspect is also significant... a "right wing" mentality if you will...

-on the other hand you have the large black segment of society. Many of those categorised in this segment are rural, illiterate and blindly support the rapid Africanisation or socialist agenda's of the government, (and even openly aspire to Communism.) It also comprises of a growing middle class of blacks, notably in the urban centres, who have gained from this policy of Africanising SA. Both of the groups in this segment arguably display a more "left-wing" mentality...


However, the Cape stands alone as the only part of the country where this polarisation does not occur with such fervor. The ultra left or right mentalities of the north are almost non-existant, as we have a much more even distribution of the races, (the black segment of society in the Cape is growing at a significant rate, due to the persuasion of govt. to move down and vote ANC, broken promises etc...)

It is in the best interests of every Cape citizen that this polarization does not occur in our province and spiral out of control. It has become a very real threat indeed, (immigration/job loss,) and as long as we remain part of the country, we will be pulled down along with the sinking, rusty ship that is South Africa.
 
The Cape is the only part of SA not yet totally ruined by race-led politics and social transformation/upheavel. The only way the ANC is to survive is to keep the memory of the struggle alive. Race was never a big issue in the Cape, unlike the more polarised society's up north.. The ANC has always resorted to desperate measures to insure control over the Cape and its people. It hopes, that by promising rural peoples of the Eastern Cape jobs in the Cape, and by enflaming them with talk of the struggle - that they will vote ANC and so cement ANC rule nationally for a long long time. This govt. is authoritarian in nature and shows a total lack of respect towards all people of the Cape! With Zuma, will it get worse?

I support Cape Independence!
 
I like this independence idea. Now how can we stop the Eastern Cape migration. The more successful the Cape becomes, the more people we will have crossing the border.
 
Thanks Sackboy...

BTW, The Cape Party is not anti-migration, as long as

a) Employment in the Cape is of adequate levels
b) Respective Immigrants can contribute to job creation
c) Respective Immigrants have skills required for an economy to grow
d) Respective Immigrants have no criminal record
e) Respective Immigrants posess some form of higher learning or tertiary education
f) Respective Immigrants do not have the potential to become a financial burden to the cape.

Anyone who would argue that the Cape party's policy concerning immigration is racist, Id ask that you apply for a work Visa in any of the Doveloped nations and check out their requirements.

Concerning point f) - just look at how many traffic lights in the Cape and elsewhere have been flooded with an influx of beggars in rescent years.

For more info on immigration policies of the Cape Party, please contact Party HQ in Clairemont on 021 671 8668.
 
Cape-Independence said:
If you need a laugh to make urself feel better about it be my guest, but ur laughing won't change the fact that our movement toward an independent Cape Republic IS growing, we want out of this union and fast.

We only got 2500 votes in the provincial election, however we had only been campaigning for a few months and beat all the other smaller parties. We have representatives in most major Cape cities and towns from Simons town to george, Somerset West to Alexandria, our framework for recruitment is strong and efficient and we got the funding.

Your laughing tells me nothing, except maybe something about ur age and maybe location, (up North somewhere perhaps?)

As to economics, the Western Cape is the single most milked province in the RSA. We have the second highest GDP just short of Gauteng, but our population is less than half. We have the lowest unemployment in SA, highest education standards, lowest HIV infections and highest investor confidence.

According to the latest data, in 2008 the Gross Domestic Product of the Western Cape was R175 billion. Financial intermediation, insurance, real estate and business services was the largest producing sector at R54 billion. Manufacturing came second at R30 billion. Wholesale and retail trade, catering and accommodation produced R29 billion, followed by an established agricultural, forestry and fishing sector. These are hallmarks of a well balanced first-world economy. This confirms that in spite of the government’s extraction of wealth the Cape is by itself a world class economy.

Compared with some of the most successful economies in the world such as Singapore, Switzerland, Hong Kong and Ireland (high income per capita, low unemployment) the Cape has a distinct advantage in land and resources.

For every R100 that the Western Cape pays in taxes only R24 is returned and spent on the needs of the Cape people. This is compared with the Eastern Cape that receives R183 for every R100 that they pay. The people of the Cape have 76% of their taxed wealth stolen from them, while the Eastern Cape enjoys an 83% gain.

An independent Cape would have 4 times more money to spend on its people.
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Right, I'm laughing simply because if you THINK it will be allowed, you're more naive than I would think anyone is.

As for your stats, please point in the direction of where they come from.. Official sources if you please, not heresay.

And where would you guys get your power from?, who would build all the government infrastructure that you would lose should you gain independence?.. etc etc?... Have you shortsighted people even THOUGHT about these aspects?
 
ToxicBunny: Im not here for your amusement bru, and im definately not gonna debate anything with you. I owe you nothing. But pull your head out buddy, cos whether you like it or not, more and more people are supporting us every day, and also, we will never tire.
 
Well, ok... I'll debate with you from my point of view.

You got 0.13 percent of the vote, yet COPE who have been in existence a shorter period than you guys got CONSIDERABLY more of the vote.

You claim to have the second biggest GDP in the country, which is a blatant lie, as evidenced by the following official figures from 2004 :
KZN : GDPR at current prices(2004): R231 616 million
WC : GDPR* at current prices (2004): R199 412 million

Now that looks to me like WC is SERIOUSLY below KZN... which is the second biggest economy in this country behind Gauteng.

So please, if you're GOING to quote figures and "facts" back them up with some official report that you got them from, or you'll be shot down as trying peddle lies and half-truths.
 
If the Cape's people voted for independence through a referendum and got our majority, who would you be to deny us that right?
 
Oh and just for some other official figures...

Cape Party : 0.13% of the Provincial vote in the WC. 0% in ANY other province as well as 0% in the National vote

COPE : 7.74% in the Provincial Vote in the WC. 9.06% of the NATIONAL vote from voters within the WC. and 7.42% of the overall national vote.

Which party do you think did better? and which has been around a shorter time period?
 
I wouldn't be anyone to deny you that right, but that type of referendum would be a NATIONAL one since it would effect everyone in this country.
 
Your wrong. Premier Helen Zille has the authority to enable a referendum for the Cape tomorrow if she saw fit to do so. Look for yourself.
 
Ok, I may be wrong on that point..

But would Helen Zille bring that type of referendum about?... My guess (and its a pretty good one) is no.
 
During the course of the next 4 years, the Cape Party will have enough momentum to formally appeal to the provincial court of the Western Cape for a referendum. The plan is on paper and ppl ARE working non stop to see its fulfillment.

You dont have to believe me bru, it just really is happening, I honestly wouldnt make it up.
 
You will?...

Under what political system since there won't be any change in the balance of power in the WC in the next 4 years. You seem to lack a fundamental understanding of how politics actually works.

You made up the figures about the WC's GDPR, so why should we believe you now, esp since you're showing forth a distinct lack of understanding of politics as well as politics in this country.
 
Wow... such intelligent response to a valid point.

I think you just proved my point for me without any further need from me.

Thanks and Goodbye.
 
I owe you no answers as you try disprove evrything. Find out for yourself. Im not seeking your recruitment. get over yourself.
 
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