Article: Motorist arrested for R200 bribe

BBSA said:
You are still part of the problem.
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And you still can't think too far ...

Fudzy said:
Dolby supports corruption. That's really the 'Mentality'
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Perhaps reread again.

I wouldn't post this or argue if I was 100%, definatley over the limit. In that case, everything you say holds true - regardless of how much of a gnat you really are or narrow your thinking and life experience may be.

However in this situation (ie my situation) there's a good chance I wasn't over the limit - leaving me either to fight ir out or pay. I'm both you Sirs would elect to rather fight, argue and face arrest charges, lawyers, court fees and all the great things that comes along with it. Keep in mind this not a fairy tale and police do make things up - and even 'bully' purposely for the reason of getting a bribe.
 
Dolby said:
I was coming back from a place in Randburg.

I'd been there 4 hours and had 4 single Jameson/water and a shot.

I was pulled over, blew and was over the limit. I bribed him to leave.

Now most forumites fought, moaned and complained about me bribing him - but would you not do the same?

If I was over, it would have so close - and chances are reasonable I'm not (considerin the time). Do I put my foot down, demand he take me to the police station, draw blood and more inconveniences because I may be right / wrong?

I'm happy he acceptd a bribe in my case *shrug*
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Um, first, after five drinks, your BA will be quite high. in fact, you are drunk and should not be behind the wheel. Even if you are not feeling drunk, you are.

Second, there is no way you could have been under the limit. 4 hours would not have been enough time for your body to metabolize the booze.

Third. Bribing a police man did not magically make you sober (even if you don't feel drunk, believe me, you are) you could have killed some one or killed yourself.

People who get behind the wheel of a vehicle when drunk are selfish, inconsiderate and potential killers. Next time you want to drink 4 whiskeys and a shooter, let someone else drive you home, and if that can't happen, sleep it off in the car.
 
I've had a similar situation as Dolby...

Spent an evening at a friends place, had 2 glasses of Wine and 2 beers over like 5 hours. I was very definitely fine, but a random cop decided to pull me over. I decided to be civil to the cop and let him do his job and breathalyse me and all that, until he decided to try and arrest me for being "over" the limit. I blew 0.07 on his breathalyser. He then tried to claim the limit was 0.05 and proceeded to go and fetch his little book and whatever (The breathalyser limit is 0.24 btw)

Instead of bribing the cop, I did something he didn't expect... I whipped out my phone, found the relevant act and told him to sod off and if he continued on the course he was going I'd charge him with wrongful arrest at the very least. He didn't expect me to know the difference between bloody and breathlyser limits I expect. He then proceeded to follow me most of the way home. (i'm guessing to wait for me to break the speed limit to try and get me for that, but the speed limiter on my car is a wonderful thing :) )
 
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Dolby said:
I was coming back from a place in Randburg.

I'd been there 4 hours and had 4 single Jameson/water and a shot.

I was pulled over, blew and was over the limit. I bribed him to leave.

Now most forumites fought, moaned and complained about me bribing him - but would you not do the same?

If I was over, it would have so close - and chances are reasonable I'm not (considerin the time). Do I put my foot down, demand he take me to the police station, draw blood and more inconveniences because I may be right / wrong?

I'm happy he acceptd a bribe in my case *shrug*
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I have done the same thing. White cops if that matters to anyone. Am I proud of it ? Of course not. Would I do it again if in the same situation ? Of course ! The consequences of losing my licence are unthinkable. The trick is to not get yourself into that situation I suppose. Hence I keep it local or use taxis these days. Crazy expensive in my part of the world.

Another time when young and dumb I got pulled over. That time I certainly was over the limit but showed in no means incapable of driving. One of the cops drove us home and let us off with a warning. Different days then I suppose. I still am in two minds about this issue. For one I think it's great for the cops to do their jobs, on the other hand who wants to live in a nanny state ? One of the benefits of being in a third world country is the freedoms and benefits that come with being middle classed. Tricky one.
 
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Ronjay said:
Um, first, after five drinks, your BA will be quite high. in fact, you are drunk and should not be behind the wheel. Even if you are not feeling drunk, you are.

Second, there is no way you could have been under the limit. 4 hours would not have been enough time for your body to metabolize the booze.

Third. Bribing a police man did not magically make you sober (even if you don't feel drunk, believe me, you are) you could have killed some one or killed yourself.

People who get behind the wheel of a vehicle when drunk are selfish, inconsiderate and potential killers. Next time you want to drink 4 whiskeys and a shooter, let someone else drive you home, and if that can't happen, sleep it off in the car.
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um...first, after 4 drinks and 1 shot in 4 hours, ur BA would not be that high, in fact, as dolby mentioned, it would be touch and go for being over the limit

second, yes, yes he could have. I know i have been in almost the exact same situation.

third, he wasnt, you have mentioned this in the previous 2 points already. And i am telling you, he could have been under the limit. He certianly was not drunk.
 
Dolby said:
I was coming back from a place in Randburg.

I'd been there 4 hours and had 4 single Jameson/water and a shot.

I was pulled over, blew and was over the limit. I bribed him to leave.

Now most forumites fought, moaned and complained about me bribing him - but would you not do the same?

If I was over, it would have so close - and chances are reasonable I'm not (considerin the time). Do I put my foot down, demand he take me to the police station, draw blood and more inconveniences because I may be right / wrong?

I'm happy he acceptd a bribe in my case *shrug*
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I'm happy I wasn't driving on the same road as you that night.

At least -- I certainly HOPE I wasn't. Dumbass.
 
And then people want to know why there are so many road accidents in SA. It's because there are morons in this country that think drinking alcohol is not going to affect there reflexes, vision and function. Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid.

people get killed by morons that think it's fine to get behind the wheel after drinking. Yeah, nothing will happen to you, but others have to pay for your stupidity.
 
How can some of you think of that a whiskey and water over many hours is enough to make you drunk .... ?
 
In Dolby's defence (and heaven knows, he needs one :) ), at least he is one of the posters here who are honest enough to admit to having bribed a traffic officer.

Doesn't make it OK, but at least he admitted to it.

I am sure a number of other people here have done it as well.
 
Dolby said:
How can some of you think of that a whiskey and water over many hours is enough to make you drunk .... ?
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Um, you didn't have 1 you had 5. Studies have shown that impairment begins with the first drink. If you don't know what that means, let me spell it out for you. It means that from the first drink you start acting like a moron, have no inhibitions, no sense of consequence, and are incapable of making any kind of judgment calls. Yeah, get behind the wheel like that, Mr Hero.
 
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Dolby said:
I wouldn't post this or argue if I was 100%, definatley over the limit. In that case, everything you say holds true - regardless of how much of a gnat you really are or narrow your thinking and life experience may be.

However in this situation (ie my situation) there's a good chance I wasn't over the limit - leaving me either to fight ir out or pay. I'm both you Sirs would elect to rather fight, argue and face arrest charges, lawyers, court fees and all the great things that comes along with it. Keep in mind this not a fairy tale and police do make things up - and even 'bully' purposely for the reason of getting a bribe.
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Well I believe that the law should take it's course no matter what the consequences. I won't lower myself the same way I wouldn't lower myself to dodge taxes, buy stolen goods and just general corrupt behavior. I can't really say the same for you.
 
Ronjay said:
Um, you didn't have 1 you had 5. Studies have shown that impairment begins with the first drink.
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You're very wrong, I'm afraid.

But I won't go into the effects and technicalities now.

Fudzy said:
Well I believe that the law should take it's course no matter what the consequences. I won't lower myself the same way I wouldn't lower myself to dodge taxes, buy stolen goods and just general corrupt behavior. I can't really say the same for you.
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Of course you wouldn't, fudzy.

I've always imagined you as the resident angelic MyBB poster here. I'm very sure you'd be fighting the cops, laywers and spend thousands getting out of a wrongful arrest case because - it's right. You live in an idealistic little world where you can simply state your case - and people will listen to you.

Congrats and all the best for the future.
 
Ronjay said:
Um, you didn't have 1 you had 5. Studies have shown that impairment begins with the first drink. If you don't know what that means, let me spell it out for you. It means that from the first drink you start acting like a moron, have no inhibitions, no sense of consequence, and are incapable of making any kind of judgment calls. Yeah, get behind the wheel like that, Mr Hero.
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5 after 5 hours will not make you drunk. It's not possible for the average person. For example a person with a liver. You're projecting a lot of ignorance and prejudice onto the issue captain teetotal. After 1 drink you have no inhibitions and can't make judgement calls ?

Oh when the saints ! Oh when the saints ! Oh when the saints came marching in ! Oh I want to be of that number .....!
 
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Ronjay said:
Um, you didn't have 1 you had 5. Studies have shown that impairment begins with the first drink. If you don't know what that means, let me spell it out for you. It means that from the first drink you start acting like a moron, have no inhibitions, no sense of consequence, and are incapable of making any kind of judgment calls. Yeah, get behind the wheel like that, Mr Hero.
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all of that from the first drink? Really? but they let you drive after 1 drink...thats very reckless of them...

You do know that you 1 drink an hour is not that likely to bring on these things you are talking about? Especially when mixed with water?
Add a meal to that, and you are probably sober..
 
Fudzy said:
Well I believe that the law should take it's course no matter what the consequences. I won't lower myself the same way I wouldn't lower myself to dodge taxes, buy stolen goods and just general corrupt behavior. I can't really say the same for you.
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Agree, it is a pity they did not arrest Dolby for bribing a cop.
 
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blunomore said:
In Dolby's defence (and heaven knows, he needs one :) ), at least he is one of the posters here who are honest enough to admit to having bribed a traffic officer.

Doesn't make it OK, but at least he admitted to it.

I am sure a number of other people here have done it as well.
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Thanks - I think ;)

As one of the few posters with logic and reasoning - do you see the predicament?

Either fight a wrongful arrest for months, wasting many hours and plenty of money - or pay to walk away?

fudzy strikes me as one of those people who'll get pulled off in road block, arrested due to an unpaid fine - and whip out his copy of YOU magazine telling the police 'it's illegal ... you need to have the original summons on you'

Have you ever tried that?
Do the cops back away?

No - this is real world. They'll shove you in the van and sort it out later - even if you're right.
 
All right then. Continue drinking and driving then. Just one favour, please post when you are going to be doing this so the rest of us can be off the road when you are on it.
 
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