BlackBerry versus Android versus Apple

BeVonk! said:
I helped a friend set up his new Bold 9900 recently and I was very impressed with it ... especially the value he got from Vodacom (extra battery a big plus). I loved the keyboard on my Bold 9000 and it was a joy to use it on the 9900 again. I actually felt tempted to return to that ... :) (typing on glass sux!!!)
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Cause you suppose to be swypeing not typeing dammit.

Bloody old people, can not take em anywhere :D

Edit: Another reason I lone my Xperia S, it came with swype as standard.
 
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ClintX said:
Blackberry's success always baffles me. I suppose it is that "free" internet that appeals to people in this country where data is still shockingly expensive.
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Give Android or Apple users a fixed internet service for R59 a month and kiss crackberries good bye.
Crappy ugly slow dreadful handsets. Everyone I know hates them.
 
Elimentals said:
Cause you suppose to be swypeing not typeing dammit.

Bloody old people, can not take em anywhere :D

Edit: Another reason I lone my Xperia S, it came with swype as standard.
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I'm old school. Wiping my screen clean to create text/numbers doesn't work for me. I love that 9000/9900 keyboard. I wish there was an Android device with thát exact keyboard.
 
Blackberry is the cheapest phone for data use. Period. Does not matter if it is a crappy handset. Costs is what matters in South Africa.
 
ClintX said:
Blackberry's success always baffles me. I suppose it is that "free" internet that appeals to people in this country where data is still shockingly expensive.
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There are a few simple things that make the BB such a popular choice:
1) Price - cheap handsets AND R59 for total messaging and internet is hard to beat, especially without the current data specials
2) 24 month contracts
3) BBM and email
4) Good keyboards which are great for messaging (see point 1 & 3 in relation to this)
5) The business server story for companies (who also like set pricing for data bundled in to contracts)
6) Entrenched in the market

So Android and Apple typically compete against not just the OS, but the phone design (having a proper keyboard vs touch screen only), the set price for messaging and internet, for companies the inherent focus on a corporate service and then the rest of the features.
 
cozinsky said:
Blackberry is the cheapest phone for data use. Period. Does not matter if it is a crappy handset. Costs is what matters in South Africa.
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The Bold 9900 is not a crappy handset. The cheap Curves are. I will easily live with any of the new Bold phones (as long as I have a tablet).
 
I see an interesting trend: People that moved from BlackBerry to other phones are returning to BlackBerry.
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Two anecdotal testimonials != an interesting trend but thanks for that.
 
BeVonk! said:
I'm old school. Wiping my screen clean to create text/numbers doesn't work for me. I love that 9000/9900 keyboard. I wish there was an Android device with thát exact keyboard.
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You mean something like the Samsung Galaxy Y?

I can not for the life of me get how people can type on Keyboard phones. to have to look on the keyboard and peck like a chicken just does not work for me. Give me Touchpal with Blind swype + predictive text and I can out swipe mote people out there. Hell it even helps with people like me that have no clue how to spell.
 
cerebus said:
Two anecdotal testimonials != an interesting trend but thanks for that.
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Cerebus, you are very good at talking here (very quick to give your opinions) but very poor at reading and listening. Go read my post again. Two examples given from the last week.
 
As everyone knows, its not about the OS of a smartphone these days, its about the entire ecosystem. And right now, in SA, nobody can beat the value of the BB ecosystem. Android, iOS and WP7 all require you keep a close eye on your data usage if you dont want to be raped by the Networks at the end of the month...
 
sox63 said:
As everyone knows, its not about the OS of a smartphone these days, its about the entire ecosystem. And right now, in SA, nobody can beat the value of the BB ecosystem. Android, iOS and WP7 all require you keep a close eye on your data usage if you dont want to be raped by the Networks at the end of the month...
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It's actually more than the ecosystem, it is about your own system that works best within your own realities. One can easily get caught up in one ecosystem that offers good solutions in one aspect and not so in others. A mix can work better for many. If I have an iPad that has 3G do I really need an iPhone also? Maybe a BlackBerry + iPad works better.
 
sox63 said:
As everyone knows, its not about the OS of a smartphone these days, its about the entire ecosystem. And right now, in SA, nobody can beat the value of the BB ecosystem. Android, iOS and WP7 all require you keep a close eye on your data usage if you dont want to be raped by the Networks at the end of the month...
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With enough know how and the right software that becomes a none issue.

Onavo Extend on iPhone and ICS as well as the Onavo data monitor that limit unneeded applications from accessing 3G I never watch my data and my phones know that they can only update when I am at home on uncapped WiFi.

And I still have my whatsapp and browsing when on the move.
 
BeVonk! said:
Cerebus, you are very good at talking here (very quick to give your opinions) but very poor at reading and listening. Go read my post again. Two examples given from the last week.
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It's all you provided us to go on. What else was I meant to be listening to.. or hearing for that matter? Some kind of wider extrapolation that you obviously intended us to draw? Because two people replaced their smartphones with BlackBerries in one week, therefore if two people in your personal circles replaced their phones every week that is 104 BlackBerry converts in one year, so the CIA killed JFK's brother's roommate?
 
Elimentals said:
With enough know how and the right software that becomes a none issue.

Onavo Extend on iPhone and ICS as well as the Onavo data monitor that limit unneeded applications from accessing 3G I never watch my data and my phones know that they can only update when I am at home on uncapped WiFi.

And I still have my whatsapp and browsing when on the move.
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Most people want peace of mind. They don't want to do geeky stuff to get things right and then miss that one tick box that should have been ticked to make things work right (you know, thát tick box only the guy at the helpdesk knows about ... LOL).
 
cerebus said:
It's all you provided us to go on. What else was I meant to be listening to.. or hearing for that matter? Some kind of wider extrapolation that you obviously intended us to draw? Because two people replaced their smartphones with BlackBerries in one week, therefore if two people in your personal circles replaced their phones every week that is 104 BlackBerry converts in one year, so the CIA killed JFK's brother's roommate?
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Thanks Cerebus, noted.
 
BeVonk! said:
Most people want peace of mind. They don't want to do geeky stuff to get things right and then miss that one tick box that should have been ticked to make things work right (you know, thát tick box only the guy at the helpdesk knows about ... LOL).
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I think I covered that argument a couple of posts ago.... oh wait I did. http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...versus-Apple?p=8279399&viewfull=1#post8279399

Yes I am aware of that, what I am saying is that I use that to cover those basis mentioned, so can become a none issue if you want.
 
BeVonk! said:
Not read all the replies here so this might have been covered already. I see an interesting trend: People that moved from BlackBerry to other phones are returning to BlackBerry. Two of my tech savvy colleagues did exactly that in the last week. One moved back from Android and the other from iPhone. Why? Because they are gatvol of keeping up with their data usage and both got caught with seriously high bills over the last year. Both also bought tablets during the last year and feel that they don't need all the bells and whistles on a phone any more. Since I got into tablets I also found that I am not using my phone nearly as much as I used to for things other than communicating. Tablets kill the need for fancy phones for many who now prefer a simpler phone solution where cost can be better controlled and where communication is the priority. Makes sense to me. BlackBerry might be down but they are not out yet.
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They don't sound very tech savvy if they were caught out by high bills, tech savvy people would know how to avoid that and be aware of whats happening
 
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