Nerfherder
Honorary Master
Did a quick speedtest to the uk (full 3g) on my 9900
ping 4044
Download 469.1 kbps
upload: 41.8
ping 4044
Download 469.1 kbps
upload: 41.8
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Question of the Day: Do you think Bafana Bafana will win tonight?
BlackBerry versus Android versus Apple
That would be interesting to know. Found it sad Nokia was not mentioned but assumed it was because of low numbers but what about those 2 million. I've seen a lot of Nokia N8s when out and about.
If you're a follower... if you're a leader you tell them to contact you on Whatsapp or nothing...
Ockie
Resident Lead Bender
Well, it depends. I got my sister to switch over to the RAZR...and we activated a 100meg bundle for her @ R49.00...and so far that is suiting her just fine. She mostly just WhatsApps though and sends a few pics here and there.
Most people who are on BBM are also on WhatsApp. I feel BBM's grip is weakening.
SirFooK'nG
Executive Member
N8 is a horrible phone, My wife had one, warned her not to take it.... stupid selling point is the camera (yes bloody good cam), but the OS sux ballz! I eventually had enough of her complaining and bought her a Samsung G-Note
McCrazieGoalz
Expert Member
Even the data prices are dropping too. The biggest benefit of BBM is the savings on data for chat and Internet access.
With Cell C offering 500MB for R49, who needs BBM when you can do whatever you like with 500MB of data - stuff that you can't with BBM. More data price reductions to follow. MTN's 2GB prepaid for R189 is another attractive offer on the market that you can use for whatever you want to. It works out to R95 for 1GB per month since it lasts for 2 months.
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Everyone is singing Blackberry's demise yet those Vodacom figures mean there is more than 5 times as many Blackberry phones on the network as Android. I would imagine if you compare regular usage it would be skewed even more.
Blackberry is owning the market.
Blackberry is owning the market.
Comparing Apple to Android is fundamentally flawed as you compare a manufacturer to an Operating System. Not apples with apples, if you will.
When comparing IOS to Android, Android is bigger.
When comparing Apple to any other manufacturer (Samsung, etc.), Apple is substantially ahead.
Close but no cigar... (see what I did there).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
Apple doth not a GOOD phone make.
cerebus
Honorary Master
BlackBerry owns the market in SOUTH AFRICA - everywhere else it's dying, and SA is a lagging indicator. It's a success here because of quite specific reasons - which have been talked about on the thread.
Elimentals
Honorary Master
You can not simply go this OS is better than that one because they all target different groups of people
Its like trying to say an SUV vs pick-up vs Hatchback vs 18 wheeler, sure they all are modes of transport but they sure as hell don't do everything best.
In that light:
There is a lot more to each device mentioned and there others not covered like Symbian, Bada, Meego and so on but simply put you can in no way say one device will fit everyone perfectly because they can not. Some people would even go and say but I summed up their device wrong as it can do X, Maybe it can maybe it can not but from where I am sitting that is how I view things.
TL;DR
Android = Function + Power + Choice
iOS = Design + Apps + Uniformity
BB = Ease of mind + pure communication
WP = Communication + Design + dash of choice
Its like trying to say an SUV vs pick-up vs Hatchback vs 18 wheeler, sure they all are modes of transport but they sure as hell don't do everything best.
In that light:
- Android is for the tinkerers, people that like to change things to suite them. They prefer something that can do everything at the price of uniformity, design and sometimes even speed as in lower end phones.
- iOS is for people that loves apps, millions and millions of apps. They love the fact that nothing change and that everything looks the same, even if that smooth design come at a price that the phone can not do everything like use a simple PS3 controller. You can go buy that iOS speakers or alarm clock as the next device will be able to use it.
- Blackberry users prefer peace of mind, they don't care about apps or looks or even functionality. They just want a device that can comunicate with other people with a static price and little to no worries at what the month end bill will look like. They don't want to spend hours looking for an App to do some arb function, they just wanna transfer thoughts and move on with there lives.
- Windows Phone is kind of a catch a bit of everything device. It gives you uniform design with ease of in and out of the device but at the price of raw power you can not go chancing the icons. I also feel that Blackberry in SA have most to fear about Windows phone, cause they target the same userbase, well except for the internet charges but as this come down more people will move to it.
There is a lot more to each device mentioned and there others not covered like Symbian, Bada, Meego and so on but simply put you can in no way say one device will fit everyone perfectly because they can not. Some people would even go and say but I summed up their device wrong as it can do X, Maybe it can maybe it can not but from where I am sitting that is how I view things.
TL;DR
Android = Function + Power + Choice
iOS = Design + Apps + Uniformity
BB = Ease of mind + pure communication
WP = Communication + Design + dash of choice
McCrazieGoalz
Expert Member
Here is the link:
http://businesstech.co.za/news/telecommunications/12394/cell-c-cuts-data-prices-by-50/
However, it seems the deal is only for post-paid i.e. contract.
So, MTN would be your best bet for a great pre-paid data deal @ R95/mth for 1GB. i.e R189 for 2GB over 2 months.
Many thanks for this. Am looking for prepaid and the MTN deal really does look good. Unfortunately Cell C is the only network with 3G coverage where I live. Ported from Vodacom because of this. Am making use of the Cell C three in one voucher presently but not ideal.
cerebus
Honorary Master
There are 2 camps of Android users. 1 camp like yourself are the hardcore techies who prefer the flexibility and openness of Android. Somewhat I also fall into that category. The other are people who want a touchscreen smartphone and buy something that fits into their budget, without really being aware that they are using an Android platform at all, or consciously choosing it over any other platform. I suspect that group 2 is much larger than group 1. They would for instance never think to re-skin their Galaxy Ace's or be aware that they were still on Froyo.
I reckon that's a fair assessment. The thing is though, more apps can also = more choice. Do users want the 'choice' of more and better apps, or do they want the 'choice' of modifying and skinning their OS to their heart's content?
In this country BB is about value for money, for internet-based smartphoning. Majority of people I see on BB spend all their time Facebooking and BBM'ing.
WP hardly even registers to 95% of smartphone users yet.
We should all realise that we should not put our faith in the logic of any majority in this country, just look at who we voted for every election
I think this pretty much explains it
ozziej
Senior Member
Its not surprising that BB is ahead of the others, take away the R65 a month subscription from them, or give it to Android and iPhone users and watch the stats change. Its also not surprising that Android is ahead of iPhone users, there are some very cheap android tablets and phones that can be gotten on much cheaper contracts. I really dunno why this makes front page news on MyBB.
eltherza
Expert Member
E-Tolls news has calmed down, they need something to spark some controversy in the forums.
Elimentals
Honorary Master
@cerebus Its all semantics as it still falls under not a single platform is the best for everyone
Anyway,
Group 2 has no loyalty whatsoever, and would move to whatever is the cheapest hence me not mentioning them as a group, they where the Nokia/Ericson fans of the past and currently migrating from BB world to Android.
Its not only the number of apps, but also the commercial applications/support of them, like Camera apps to remote control the device or Apps/connectors for you brand of car, or even apps that is designed for x make of security systems and so on. Commercial applications roll out for iOS way before it hits other OS form factors. Funny part here is that Android users end up with DIY projects doing just this way before iOS get commercial support.
Thats why I say when Windows Phone growth hit critical mass will get most users from this group.
There is way more to the platform than just the new phone, sure they released it now(Unfinished in a way) but I have a feeling that once Metro hit the desktops as it did Xbox this market will see exponential growth cause only then will the whole new eco system make sense. Microsoft is pumping waaaaay too much money in the whole re-alignment of the user interface to simply let this one die. I would almost go as far as to say they will even pay people to take up the platform, just so they can lock them in for the future. Like how they cornered the Desktop market.
Anyway,
Group 2 has no loyalty whatsoever, and would move to whatever is the cheapest hence me not mentioning them as a group, they where the Nokia/Ericson fans of the past and currently migrating from BB world to Android.
Its not only the number of apps, but also the commercial applications/support of them, like Camera apps to remote control the device or Apps/connectors for you brand of car, or even apps that is designed for x make of security systems and so on. Commercial applications roll out for iOS way before it hits other OS form factors. Funny part here is that Android users end up with DIY projects doing just this way before iOS get commercial support.
Thats why I say when Windows Phone growth hit critical mass will get most users from this group.
There is way more to the platform than just the new phone, sure they released it now(Unfinished in a way) but I have a feeling that once Metro hit the desktops as it did Xbox this market will see exponential growth cause only then will the whole new eco system make sense. Microsoft is pumping waaaaay too much money in the whole re-alignment of the user interface to simply let this one die. I would almost go as far as to say they will even pay people to take up the platform, just so they can lock them in for the future. Like how they cornered the Desktop market.
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