Paul sending me a chart that the sale is so that I can not see what is going on on it does not help me. I am not a CI client but in my testing the only company in all of this who really helped me was Openserve, they are not here to defend them selfs. They came to my house and did test.They gave me logs and ran test. I would agree with you if all ISPs had this issues. But VOX and Openserve test accounts don't. Logic tells me there is some issues between the ISP and carriers on the configuration side. But VOX seems to figured it out and don't have that issue. When I point out something or ask a question you have a lot of excuses and always point the finger at the carrier. The same way all the ISP do.