Sign up with GoogleP.S Huge props for the work you've done in this thread. Hope you don't mind I'm going to be referring to this thread a lot in the future.
You are most welcome. I just wanted a fiber line that works the way it used to before IS took it over lol.
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Charting Fibre speed over time.
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You are most welcome. I just wanted a fiber line that works the way it used to before IS took it over lol.
You sure its IS though? Coop said he's with CoolIdeas over Vumatel and they use IS as their backbone don't they? Or are the same issues present on Coop's speed tests?
All the test I did on CI and the other ISPs showed simmilar dips. Only VOX and Openserve test accounts did not show the major dips. So now I am with VOX and am happy as 'n pig in mud (for now anyway) So I can not say 100% it is IS but all the other ISPs on the IS backbone showed this issue. The only thing that is in common is IS. What it is I can not tell you. I know it is not Openserve as I have not seen the dips on VOX and I am using the same Fibre. So no matter what the ISPs say, in my case it is not the Fiber carrier that caused the slow speed.
gfmalan also has the same dips and he is a CI client. Maybe it is Is and PON. Who knows.
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I am no longer running tests.
Here you can see gfmalan is still running test as he said his download would drop down very low.
And this chart is the last test I ran. You can see my speed and gfmala's speed drop the same time.
Coop was stable but also had major dips around 12. Not sure if the line was being used at that stage. But when I ran tests I would make sure the line was idle.
Here you can see gfmalan is still running test as he said his download would drop down very low.
And this chart is the last test I ran. You can see my speed and gfmala's speed drop the same time.
Coop was stable but also had major dips around 12. Not sure if the line was being used at that stage. But when I ran tests I would make sure the line was idle.
And this chart is the last test I ran. You can see my speed and gfmala's speed drop the same time.
Coop was stable but also had major dips around 12. Not sure if the line was being used at that stage. But when I ran tests I would make sure the line was idle.
Fascinating. It seriously is.
I'm hesitant to say its IS because then surely coop would be having similar issues and drop offs? I mean you could put a ruler across the graph with his speeds and he gets 100mb+ 90% of the time. I'm not defending them, there are rumors going around that they are selling out. This issue might be one of the reasons why. I just find it bizarre that coop isn't getting the speed drop offs.
Would you mind doing one more 12 hour test of your account on vox? I'd love to see the graph for that.
As far I know, yes.
I am no longer running tests.
Here you can see gfmalan is still running test as he said his download would drop down very low.
And this chart is the last test I ran. You can see my speed and gfmala's speed drop the same time.
Coop was stable but also had major dips around 12. Not sure if the line was being used at that stage. But when I ran tests I would make sure the line was idle.
Just to clear that up, the dips on my line around 12 where caused by the kids downloading a game, so were real usage. Also, keep in mind that we watch netflix or showmax almost every evening and the speedtest still showed over 100 Mb during that time. The line is only really idle between about 10 PM and 5 AM.
I just find it bizarre that you're on CI (and by extension IS) and don't see those same dips the others do. I don't think its the PON vs AON either or else Jaco would still be having those drops even on Vox.
The whole thing is just weird. Maybe it has to do with peering agreements and points. I really don't know.
Cool Ideas does use the IS backbone, but not all traffic gets routed that way. My wife plays Runescape on the UK servers and never has problems with lag etc.
Well one thing is that Vumatel on the AE fiber limit the 100Mb/s accounts at 110 Mb/s as I understand it. I don't think they do the same on the Fiberhoods setup.
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We don't use an IS "backbone" we use IS for some local and international IP transit. All the providers you mentioned are reselling IS products, ie IS manages everything. We have our own national network and separate IPC. So the only relative traffic over IS is some international traffic and all local providers that don't have an open peering policy.
I have to ask your opinion on this situation. As I've described, for me its pretty bizarre that 3 people can have such different experiences on the same ISP. I however don't work for an ISP and don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Do you think its the Aon vs Pon issue?
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So we have handoff points with each of these operators, from there it's a 3rd party network that then "carriers" traffic via layer2 to the customer. How these networks operate are unique in their own design and topologies, introduces additional complexities and inconsistencies/layers. As far as WANs work getting an average of 90%+ consistency means the "best effort" network over many days/weeks is working pretty well and as expected.
I find the need for these requirements born out of the horrible copper networks which have delivered far less than promised and so fibre is expected to deliver 100% or more somehow.
I will run another 12 hour test on VOX. I also got a Afrihost account. Will test with that some time to see what I get there. I am not sure what it is. I just know where I see no serious dips. I still dont get 100 Mbps on the link. I see it go to a 100 now and then but it will not stay at a 100 like coop is getting more than 100.
What does that mean ?
Do you have your own fiber running all over South Africa? You dont sit on Neotel or any other fibre carrier ?
I would agree with best effort if my payment was also best effort. If the 2 are linked then it is fair.
But if I pay the full price then I should get the full service.
As I understand it, this is something Vumatel do and is specific to them. They set the 100Mb/s connections to 110 Mb/s to allow for overhead. So I typically get in total about 104 Mb/s, but pay for 100. Unfortunately, this over provisioning of bandwidth is under the control of the last mile provider.
I think it means they buy bandwidth from multiple backbones not just IS.
This.
This is 100% specific to vuma. They even state it on their front page. Making the user sit with the overhead was common with adsl and only recently with vdsl was it gotten rid of.
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Networks work via transit and peering. Typical reseller ISPs don't own a network but rather resell another ISP's network. An example of this is Internet Solutions resellers: Web Africa, OpenWeb, Crystal Web, Connection, PluGG.
ISPs such as CISP, Afrihost and Vox own IP ranges, have hardware in datacentres and have what is called transit. Any good ISP has transit from multiple network operators such as IS, HE, Cogent etc.
CISP owns their own network. They do not use any "backbone" or other terms you may be used to seeing when dealing with DSL resellers. I applaud Paul for being so transparent with their network and company when others won't even disclose their network utilization graphs.
Paul, if I ever come passed the office the drinks are on me.
ISPs such as CISP, Afrihost and Vox own IP ranges, have hardware in datacentres and have what is called transit. Any good ISP has transit from multiple network operators such as IS, HE, Cogent etc.
CISP owns their own network. They do not use any "backbone" or other terms you may be used to seeing when dealing with DSL resellers. I applaud Paul for being so transparent with their network and company when others won't even disclose their network utilization graphs.
Paul, if I ever come passed the office the drinks are on me.