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Will throw in my test from JHB.

200/200 Vuma trenched
Coreix single thread.

Not the greatest results.

Test 1


Test 2


Multi thread also not too grand.

Test 1


Test 2


Local for control (I guess) to CI Randburg

Single thread

Test 1


Test 2


Multi thread

Test 1


Test 2
 
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Woke up to the internet being OK again.
Its better than LTE but there's definitely packet loss.
On the subject of that spreadsheet... OMG... someone has some explaining to do about the internet in the Western Cape. That's simply not acceptable.
 
Hype said:
Will throw in my test from JHB.

200/200 Vuma trenched
Coreix single thread.

Not the greatest results.

Test 1


Test 2


Multi thread also not too grand.

Test 1


Test 2


Local for control (I guess) to CI Randburg

Single thread

Test 1


Test 2


Multi thread

Test 1


Test 2
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I guess shitty iperf results will cause that. The problem is, this is with Vuma, the rolls royce of fibre providers, that have the best fibre network hardware or whatever, still have packet loss in certain areas/customers. I don't see any Vuma customers on that spreadsheet.

Now what, it's been 6 months?

EDIT: My Vuma fibre is being installed on the 6th of Feb. Praying for a normal iperf result. If I don't see one then they can keep their fibre, I've got better things to do with my life than suffer needlessly.
 
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wingnut771 said:
I guess shitty iperf results will cause that. The problem is, this is with Vuma, the rolls royce of fibre providers, that have the best fibre network hardware or whatever, still have packet loss in certain areas/customers. I don't see any Vuma customers on that spreadsheet.

Now what, it's been 6 months?

EDIT: My Vuma fibre is being installed on the 6th of Feb. Praying for a normal iperf result. If I don't see one then they can keep your fibre, I've got better things to do with my life than suffer needlessly.
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It seems to me we're expected to just shut up and accept this sort of mediocrity. Which is something that really angers me. Can you imagine if I pulled that kind of tactic in my job... I'd be unemployed. I can understand issues happen and I can be patient when I am told "OK valued client, we have this problem... and it will take XYZ TO FIX please bear with us"
We've gotten this far by making a lot of noise and carrying on like flaming crazy people, which is not right.
 
ArtyLoop said:
It seems to me we're expected to just shut up and accept this sort of mediocrity. Which is something that really angers me. Can you imagine if I pulled that kind of tactic in my job... I'd be unemployed. I can understand issues happen and I can be patient when I am told "OK valued client, we have this problem... and it will take XYZ TO FIX please bear with us"
We've gotten this far by making a lot of noise and carrying on like flaming crazy people, which is not right.
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This
 
I feel sorry for Cool Ideas that it's all happening on their thread though.

At least me have a common place to speak all things fibre and not just CI, or at least I hope so.
 
wingnut771 said:
I feel sorry for Cool Ideas that it's all happening on their thread though.

At least me have a common place to speak all things fibre and not just CI, or at least I hope so.
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It happens here because we're heard. Paul and Roelf have what every other ISP in SA is lacking. Honesty, integrity and a willingness to engage with a mob of angry people and listen to them.
 
Latest Iperf Results done this morning, check the lost Datagrams XD

Code: 
iperf3.exe -u -b 80M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za 
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
[  4] local 10.0.0.10 port 55575 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  8.70 MBytes  73.0 Mbits/sec  1114  
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  9.52 MBytes  79.8 Mbits/sec  1218  
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  9.54 MBytes  80.0 Mbits/sec  1221  
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  9.69 MBytes  81.3 Mbits/sec  1240  
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  9.54 MBytes  80.0 Mbits/sec  1221  
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  9.52 MBytes  79.8 Mbits/sec  1218  
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  9.55 MBytes  80.1 Mbits/sec  1222  
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  9.52 MBytes  79.9 Mbits/sec  1219  
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  9.55 MBytes  80.1 Mbits/sec  1222  
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  9.40 MBytes  78.8 Mbits/sec  1203  
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  94.5 MBytes  79.3 Mbits/sec  7.490 ms  8296/12097 (69%)  
[  4] Sent 12097 datagrams

iperf Done.
iperf3.exe -R -u -b 80M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za 
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
Reverse mode, remote host queen.cisp.co.za is sending
[  4] local 10.0.0.10 port 51457 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec   208 KBytes  1.70 Mbits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/26 (0%)  
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)  
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)  
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)  
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)  
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)  
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)  
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)  
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)  
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)  
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  97.1 MBytes  81.5 Mbits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/26 (0%)  
[  4] Sent 26 datagrams

iperf Done.
 
renagade-wolf said:
Latest Iperf Results done this morning, check the lost Datagrams XD

Code: 
iperf3.exe -u -b 80M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
[  4] local 10.0.0.10 port 55575 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  8.70 MBytes  73.0 Mbits/sec  1114
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  9.52 MBytes  79.8 Mbits/sec  1218
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  9.54 MBytes  80.0 Mbits/sec  1221
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  9.69 MBytes  81.3 Mbits/sec  1240
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  9.54 MBytes  80.0 Mbits/sec  1221
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  9.52 MBytes  79.8 Mbits/sec  1218
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  9.55 MBytes  80.1 Mbits/sec  1222
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  9.52 MBytes  79.9 Mbits/sec  1219
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  9.55 MBytes  80.1 Mbits/sec  1222
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  9.40 MBytes  78.8 Mbits/sec  1203
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  94.5 MBytes  79.3 Mbits/sec  7.490 ms  8296/12097 (69%)
[  4] Sent 12097 datagrams

iperf Done.
iperf3.exe -R -u -b 80M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
Reverse mode, remote host queen.cisp.co.za is sending
[  4] local 10.0.0.10 port 51457 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-1.00   sec   208 KBytes  1.70 Mbits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/26 (0%)
[  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)
[  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)
[  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)
[  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)
[  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)
[  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)
[  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)
[  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)
[  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  0.00 Bytes  0.00 bits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/0 (0%)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth       Jitter    Lost/Total Datagrams
[  4]   0.00-10.00  sec  97.1 MBytes  81.5 Mbits/sec  1089.998 ms  0/26 (0%)
[  4] Sent 26 datagrams

iperf Done.
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Please quote linespeed and network so we don't have to go back and check.
 
ArtyLoop said:
Woke up to the internet being OK again.
Its better than LTE but there's definitely packet loss.
On the subject of that spreadsheet... OMG... someone has some explaining to do about the internet in the Western Cape. That's simply not acceptable.
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Its funny hey? I noticed that last night too. I'm sure Octotel denied it though.

renagade-wolf said:
Latest Iperf Results done this morning, check the lost Datagrams XD

[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 94.5 MBytes 79.3 Mbits/sec 7.490 ms 8296/12097 (69%)
[ 4] Sent 12097 datagrams
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You must be on Octotel. I know I am 100/25 Octotel.

Connecting to host lnms.cisp.co.za, port 17001
[ 4] local 192.168.1.247 port 54655 connected to 154.0.1.254 port 17001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 8.67 MBytes 72.7 Mbits/sec 1110
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 9.52 MBytes 79.8 Mbits/sec 1218
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 9.55 MBytes 80.1 Mbits/sec 1222
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 9.55 MBytes 80.2 Mbits/sec 1223
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 9.52 MBytes 79.8 Mbits/sec 1218
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 9.70 MBytes 81.5 Mbits/sec 1242
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 9.49 MBytes 79.6 Mbits/sec 1215
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 9.52 MBytes 79.9 Mbits/sec 1219
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 9.45 MBytes 79.2 Mbits/sec 1209
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 9.54 MBytes 80.0 Mbits/sec 1221
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 94.5 MBytes 79.3 Mbits/sec 7.254 ms 8924/12096 (74%)
[ 4] Sent 12096 datagrams

iperf Done.

Welcome to jitter and packet loss ville! We have internet, but only during the day!
 
wingnut771 said:
I guess shitty iperf results will cause that. The problem is, this is with Vuma, the rolls royce of fibre providers, that have the best fibre network hardware or whatever, still have packet loss in certain areas/customers. I don't see any Vuma customers on that spreadsheet.

Now what, it's been 6 months?

EDIT: My Vuma fibre is being installed on the 6th of Feb. Praying for a normal iperf result. If I don't see one then they can keep their fibre, I've got better things to do with my life than suffer needlessly.
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I dont think its my line at all, because its been flawless since it was installed on the 6th of July 2018.

This is my iperf from this morning, so not exactly in line with those tests last night.

200/200 to save the hassle from scrolling through the thread.

C:\Users\iperf-3.1.3-win64>iperf3.exe -u -b 200M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
[ 4] local 192.168.0.52 port 53649 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 22.1 MBytes 186 Mbits/sec 2833
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 23.9 MBytes 200 Mbits/sec 3058
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 23.8 MBytes 200 Mbits/sec 3043
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 23.9 MBytes 200 Mbits/sec 3054
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 23.8 MBytes 200 Mbits/sec 3052
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 23.8 MBytes 200 Mbits/sec 3051
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 23.8 MBytes 200 Mbits/sec 3044
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 23.9 MBytes 201 Mbits/sec 3060
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 23.8 MBytes 200 Mbits/sec 3049
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 24.3 MBytes 204 Mbits/sec 3106
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 237 MBytes 199 Mbits/sec 0.057 ms 317/30342 (1%)
[ 4] Sent 30342 datagrams

iperf Done.

Another just for good measure

C:\Users\iperf-3.1.3-win64>iperf3.exe -u -b 200M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
[ 4] local 192.168.0.52 port 54862 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.01 sec 21.7 MBytes 179 Mbits/sec 2772
[ 4] 1.01-2.01 sec 26.0 MBytes 217 Mbits/sec 3327
[ 4] 2.01-3.02 sec 23.1 MBytes 193 Mbits/sec 2955
[ 4] 3.02-4.00 sec 24.1 MBytes 206 Mbits/sec 3083
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 22.6 MBytes 190 Mbits/sec 2897
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 23.4 MBytes 196 Mbits/sec 2996
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 25.1 MBytes 211 Mbits/sec 3212
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 24.7 MBytes 207 Mbits/sec 3160
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 22.1 MBytes 186 Mbits/sec 2834
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 23.9 MBytes 200 Mbits/sec 3058
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 237 MBytes 199 Mbits/sec 0.181 ms 194/30290 (0.64%)
[ 4] Sent 30290 datagrams

iperf Done.
 
Iperf, Octotel 200/200 Westbeach
180M
[root@roxy1 ~]# iperf3 -u -b 160M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
[ 4] local 155.93.230.55 port 53499 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 17.8 MBytes 149 Mbits/sec 2279
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 19.0 MBytes 160 Mbits/sec 2435
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 19.1 MBytes 160 Mbits/sec 2443
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 18.9 MBytes 158 Mbits/sec 2413
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 19.1 MBytes 160 Mbits/sec 2448
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 19.4 MBytes 163 Mbits/sec 2484
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 18.6 MBytes 156 Mbits/sec 2381
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 19.3 MBytes 162 Mbits/sec 2471
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 19.5 MBytes 163 Mbits/sec 2490
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 18.4 MBytes 154 Mbits/sec 2355
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datag rams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 189 MBytes 159 Mbits/sec 0.219 ms 4714/24114 (20%)
[ 4] Sent 24114 datagrams

went all throug in increments ( 20M )..

10M
;iperf3 -u -b 10M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Fri Jan 25 09:12:47 SAST 2019
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
[ 4] local 155.93.230.55 port 46342 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 1.08 MBytes 9.04 Mbits/sec 138
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 1.20 MBytes 10.0 Mbits/sec 153
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 1.19 MBytes 9.96 Mbits/sec 152
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 1.20 MBytes 10.0 Mbits/sec 153
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 1.20 MBytes 10.0 Mbits/sec 153
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 1.19 MBytes 9.96 Mbits/sec 152
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 1.20 MBytes 10.0 Mbits/sec 153
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 1.19 MBytes 9.96 Mbits/sec 152
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 1.20 MBytes 10.0 Mbits/sec 153
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 1.20 MBytes 10.0 Mbits/sec 153
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 11.8 MBytes 9.91 Mbits/sec 0.572 ms 1/1512 (0.066%)
[ 4] Sent 1512 datagrams

iperf Done.
 
Octotel, Claremont 20/5

mde@x:~$ iperf3 -u -b 16M -p 17001 -c queen.cisp.co.za
Connecting to host queen.cisp.co.za, port 17001
[ 4] local 192.168.1.8 port 33959 connected to 62.233.65.195 port 17001
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 1.73 MBytes 14.5 Mbits/sec 222
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 1.91 MBytes 16.0 Mbits/sec 244
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 1.91 MBytes 16.0 Mbits/sec 244
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 1.91 MBytes 16.0 Mbits/sec 244
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 1.91 MBytes 16.0 Mbits/sec 244
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 1.91 MBytes 16.0 Mbits/sec 244
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 1.91 MBytes 16.1 Mbits/sec 245
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 1.91 MBytes 16.0 Mbits/sec 244
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 1.91 MBytes 16.0 Mbits/sec 244
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 1.91 MBytes 16.0 Mbits/sec 244
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 18.9 MBytes 15.9 Mbits/sec 18.607 ms 1536/2401 (64%)
[ 4] Sent 2401 datagrams
 
MDE said:
Octotel, Claremont 20/5
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 18.9 MBytes 15.9 Mbits/sec 18.607 ms 1536/2401 (64%)
[ 4] Sent 2401 datagrams
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Another resident for jitterville. Welcome friend. It is nice to know I'm not alone in having issues in Claremont.

VegOtter said:
I just had another look at the list and it shocks me that there is not a single OpenServe entry in there.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16rzVo64z-rP2qMAEil5LwqTgqEGGPxBEgp-0XUew1Pk/edit#gid=0

All the years of terrible telkom/openserve, but not a peep from people on them. What is happening to this world where OpenServe just works.
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Right? I realised that a while back. I keep comparing Octotel to Telkom but honestly, thats doing a disservice to Telkom/Openserve. Even here in Cape Town they seen to be doing ok.
 
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Hi all..

Seems like CISPs international infrastructure is still under pressure....

Trying to grab Anthem from Origin, but only getting about a 10th of my download speed.

100/100 sigh (Vuma)
 

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Hunted said:
Hi all..

Seems like CISPs international infrastructure is still under pressure....

Trying to grab Anthem from Origin, but only getting about a 10th of my download speed.

100/100 sigh (Vuma)
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As far as I know origin is local with akamai unless the local akamai nodes are full and you are being served with an internation server. Should still be multithreaded so should not be slow.
 
cavedog said:
As far as I know origin is local with akamai unless the local akamai nodes are full and you are being served with an internation server. Should still be multithreaded so should not be slow.
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Heya, yeah guessed there might be a local hub, but yes the speed seems to say something else like you said. Still stuck on a +- 10th download speed.
 
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