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Looney said:
Well then PBCool must have lied. Because he specifically said Vuma Aerial is launching this week.

Edit: Let me put it to you this way. If CISP does not launch a 1gb package on Vuma Aerial within the next week, I’ll be cancelling all my services with CISP and moving to Websquad. Because at least they offer it.
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Good luck with that. [pops popcorn in micro and gets ready to enjoy the show]

websquadza said:
If you're on GPON (Vumatel Aerial), you're going to get the inherent contention that comes from splitting a 1.25 Gbps port by x many homes. If you're on trenched, you have a dedicated 1 Gbps circuit to the nearest Vuma POP, each 24 port switch has 10G uplinks to the core. Then you have backhaul contention. Vumatel actively manages backhaul by making sure ports don't saturate and upgrades (generally) happen on time and before ports fill up. Then you have ISP contention. We don't work by the philosophy of buying X Gbps upstream bandwidth and sharing it between n many clients. We operate on a port basis across 4 datacentres with multiples of 10G ports into exchanges and upstream partners (and between facilities). When these ports reach a certain saturation level, we upgrade. So to actually nail down a contention ratio is almost impossible.

I hope this explanation makes sense?
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Looney said:
Well then PBCool must have lied. Because he specifically said Vuma Aerial is launching this week.

Edit: Let me put it to you this way. If CISP does not launch a 1gb package on Vuma Aerial within the next week, I’ll be cancelling all my services with CISP and moving to Websquad. Because at least they offer it.
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I never said we won't launch it on Aerial. Just that it is trenched for now. We have certain technical requirements for the 1Gbps service on GPon which they are working on.

I'm still not convinced about the performance on GPON.
 
TheRoDent said:
I never said we won't launch it on Aerial. Just that it is trenched for now. We have certain technical requirements for the 1Gbps service on GPon which they are working on.

I'm still not convinced about the performance on GPON.
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No problem TheRoDent, I’v already cancelled CISP and moved to an ISP that is convinced about the performance.
 
GotToLuveIT said:
Good luck with that. [pops popcorn in micro and gets ready to enjoy the show]
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GPON is 2.48Gbps down AFAIK? Plus you just reduce the number of splits, so should be fine/no impact on neighbors. If 1 person takes it and they reduce to 1:16, there's still enough for everyone to get 100Mbps, which I doubt every user on the network will utilize to 100% at the same time.

I doubt 1Gbps will ever be maxed out for near all tasks due to the server/device on the other end. Most of the time I'm using less than 10% of my 100Mbps line (though for some stuff it's because CISP now...(though I am referring to e.g. YouToube streaming at 4-12Mbps with a couple of seconds 25Mbps burst taking are of the entire video)).

My question is more if the ONT can actually handle it, cheaper ones usually max at like 400Mbps sustained, had that issue in my uncle's house before they replaced it.

At 1Gbps you also get to the point where your HDD can be a bottleneck.
 
Johnatan56 said:
GPON is 2.48Gbps down AFAIK? Plus you just reduce the number of splits, so should be fine/no impact on neighbors. If 1 person takes it and they reduce to 1:16, there's still enough for everyone to get 100Mbps, which I doubt every user on the network will utilize to 100% at the same time.

I doubt 1Gbps will ever be maxed out for near all tasks due to the server/device on the other end. Most of the time I'm using less than 10% of my 100Mbps line (though for some stuff it's because CISP now...(though I am referring to e.g. YouToube streaming at 4-12Mbps with a couple of seconds 25Mbps burst taking are of the entire video)).

My question is more if the ONT can actually handle it, cheaper ones usually max at like 400Mbps sustained, had that issue in my uncle's house before they replaced it.

At 1Gbps you also get to the point where your HDD can be a bottleneck.
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That is if they split is 1:16 which means costs just shot up for Vumatel because they are going to add more OLTs and reduce the splits depending on how many people are on 100Mbps/200Mbps and 1Gbps.

Going to get very interesting because the contention is going to shoot up. The only possible saving grace would be the limited international bandwidth but when people start firing up youtube, facebook, microsoft downloads ect the OLT is going to get congested.
 
cavedog said:
That is if they split is 1:16 which means costs just shot up for Vumatel because they are going to add more OLTs and reduce the splits depending on how many people are on 100Mbps/200Mbps and 1Gbps.

Going to get very interesting because the contention is going to shoot up. The only possible saving grace would be the limited international bandwidth but when people start firing up youtube, facebook, microsoft downloads ect the OLT is going to get congested.
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Vuma is probably 1:32 right now, and the price difference between 100/200 and 1Gbps for a couple of 1Gbps users will definitely cover the cost difference or they wouldn't offer it.

Well, you'll find that the higher the speed, the less % utilization everyone uses, e.g. a 10Mbps line you have 2 YT videos maxing it out, on a 100Mbps line most would still only have 2 YT videos running, and most of YT is 1080p which they all are on already. Moving to 1Gbps will still not really increase it.

MS downloads would be local cached, FB again the speed increase past a certain point it doesn't matter (like YT), steam downloads are local cached and would be very short bursts at 1Gbps.

It's a completely different story than ADSL was.
 
Code: 
mtr -rc10 154.0.1.125
Start: 2019-03-30T15:14:15+0200
HOST: umlilo.local                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev                                               
  1.|-- _gateway                   0.0%    10    0.4   0.3   0.3   0.4   0.0                                               
  2.|-- 155.93.227.1              90.0%    10   35.1  35.1  35.1  35.1   0.0                                               
  3.|-- 154.0.1.125                0.0%    10    0.9   0.9   0.8   1.0   0.0

Vuuummaaaaaa! <head explodes>
 
Yes I really don't understand this. Middle of the day and internet barely usable. It not just international, but local content too.
Does anybody know if what we've been having is CISP or Vuma issues?
 
It is the first hop that is vomiting away my packets, so it is Vumatel. Again.
 
TheRoDent said:
I never said we won't launch it on Aerial. Just that it is trenched for now. We have certain technical requirements for the 1Gbps service on GPon which they are working on.

I'm still not convinced about the performance on GPON.
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When can I sign up for the coolest on trenched?
 
Vuma brackenfell CPT dead.

EDIT: CPE Blue Light and FX light shows connected, Have internet again but only local, International is dead, and ping, mtr , tracert all weird showing no results at all.

Code: 
Pinging 1.1.1.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 1.1.1.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),


Tracing route to one.one.one.one [1.1.1.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  router.lan [192.168.88.1]
  2     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  3     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *     ^C



  |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host              -   %  | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------|
|                              router.lan -    0 |  280 |  280 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                           102.132.248.1 -   97 |   57 |    2 |    0 |    8 |   13 |   13 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |   56 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |   56 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |   56 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |   56 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
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|                   No response from host -  100 |   56 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |   56 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
|                   No response from host -  100 |   56 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |    0 |
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   WinMTR v0.92 GPL V2 by Appnor MSP - Fully Managed Hosting & Cloud Provider


vuma weird.JPG


EDIT: 15H47 OK everything is working again now.
 
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whats really annoying me of late is i stream the F1 from morning streams and i cant stream the 1080p stream at 6Mbps but when i stream it on my rain mobile at that rate its 100% fine, something is not right with the cisp network at the moment @TheRoDent @PBCool
 
Wow, really wishing a competent FNO would come install their own lines in my suburb so I can be rid of Vumatel!
 
Yeah, so they go down for 45 minutes, and we'll all pretend it never happened.
 
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