Crystal Web ADSL performance feedback thread Part 3...

[Sinbad]

This alludes to the new product not being fibre? I really hope its not another spin "uncapped" wireless product like bitco

PON is not the only form of fibre. It's just the kakkest one

 

[Bryn]

So... no news this week about price cuts, cap changes etc?

 

[Icemanbrfc]

So... no news this week about price cuts, cap changes etc?

Have to say, im also keen to see what happens on the price cut side.

 

[Icemanbrfc]

So if i sign up only DSL users on CW, i can also be a champion?

 

[faniebraai]

So if i sign up only DSL users on CW, i can also be a champion?

The champion seems to be for signing up customers, not related to anything specifically like fibre

 

[requiem]

Seems I spoke to soon. The CW DDOS is an ongoing problem. CW's suggestion is to buy a VPN to get past the international problem.

 

[CataclysmZA]

While I can't disclose the exact methods of deployment and tech just yet, what we are bringing in is something that has enabled gigabit speeds to certain areas by certain companies. It follows very similarly to how Google are deploying their new gigabit services. What people care about it how fast, what's my latency, and what are the costs? We've detailed the costs, we've disclosed the speeds, and I can tell you that latencies far surpass DSL and in fact many PON based deployments, which phase 1 is not.

For those of you not following, this is what I'm talking about: https://www.wired.com/2016/08/google-wireless-faster-route-home/

Basically, it's last mile connectivity over a wireless link. Like WiMAX, but not WiMAX, using 3.5GHz radios to relieve the network of congestion (or at least that's what's being tested now, before this previous trials used lower frequencies). I'm guessing the latency drop-off and increasing risk of signal degradation for a 3.5GHz non-line-of-sight deployment is probably just about 2.5km in any direction (my math is horribly off, probably). I used to work for a WISP, and the longest-distance installation I've ever worked on was 10km over a 2.0GHz link.

If anyone's feeling up to it, you can read this FCC paper detailing Google's latest trials. It's long, but detailed: [0539-EX-PL-2016] Public and Redacted Versions of Request for Confidential Treatment and Complementary Exhibits

Also note that particular line, "latencies far surpass DSL and in fact many PON based deployments, which phase 1 is not." So , that 3-week to 6-month timeframe is actually conservative. It could be much smaller.

J-Bay is a special place for CW, and we have certain management trying to get it deployed there. Because of the minimal sign up requirement it's not a tall order there, however the fibre backhaul poses a slight problem which we are working on, hence why Gauteng and Cape Town were announced today.

I've was talking to Paul about that, actually. I didn't know about this development at the time, but I've already received a substantial amount of feedback from users who would sign up for fiber in J-Bay.

Auth is over PPPoE using any ethernet WAN device. Your choice and you control it. Our monitoring tech is something completely different to what you're thinking of and is software in our cloud.

This is good to hear, I'm glad that it's being addressed this way.

The moment you end up trying to sell equipment you not only end up boring people to death but you end up on a hiding to nothing. We're not equipment vendors and we certainly don't expect our customer champions to be that either, but you are on the right track with your previous post in terms of types of tech being deployed and which companies are using it.

I completely understand that the solution presented to the consumer should be more elegant to explain and market, which is what you're going for. I just think that considering you're answering questions on MyBB, we're simultaneously your target audience and also not the people you're trying to target at all. Going more in-depth with the tech behind this is the kind of stuff that this community craves.

 

[new_in_za2]

While I can't disclose the exact methods of deployment and tech just yet, what we are bringing in is something that has enabled gigabit speeds to certain areas by certain companies. It follows very similarly to how Google are deploying their new gigabit services. What people care about it how fast, what's my latency, and what are the costs? We've detailed the costs, we've disclosed the speeds, and I can tell you that latencies far surpass DSL and in fact many PON based deployments, which phase 1 is not.

The more you talk about it, the more you make it sound like it's wireless...

 

[Mr Scratch]

The more you talk about it, the more you make it sound like it's wireless...

^^ This vibe 100%

 

[Sinbad]

The more you talk about it, the more you make it sound like it's wireless...

X-ray To The Home!

Just don't stand in front of the aerial.


But yeah with the 5 sqkm thing, it sounds like some kind of wireless.

 

[new_in_za2]

BTW, if it really is wireless, then you *really* need to consider improving your communication. If you had sent out an email saying "we plan to offer wireless internet connectivity", not only would have have saved 20 long paragraphs, it would also have been more informative than the email you did send out, and would have saved 10 forum pages of crap and speculation.

Now, back to the extended free time on ADSL, please...

 

[Deleted member 83147]

Is this gonna be the "wireless fibre" debate all over again...

 

[PostManPat]

Is this gonna be the ""wireless fibre"" debate all over again...

Innovation.

 

[Gboss]

0.5

 

[Bryn]

The more you talk about it, the more you make it sound like it's wireless...

Pretty sure I read not too long ago that wireless technology has reached 1Tbps in testing. I don't care what technology is used if it works.

 

[new_in_za2]

Pretty sure I read not too long ago that wireless technology has reached 1Tbps in testing. I don't care what technology is used if it works.

Sure, many people will be happy with wireless, and maybe Crystal Web will even end up with a good product. I'm not contesting any of those things. I'm just puzzled and surprised that they decided to waste 20 paragraphs on saying basically nothing, while including this little bit of information would have made everything clearer.

 

[Bryn]

Sure, many people will be happy with wireless, and maybe Crystal Web will even end up with a good product. I'm not contesting any of those things. I'm just puzzled and surprised that they decided to waste 20 paragraphs on saying basically nothing, while including this little bit of information would have made everything clearer.

It's probably still early days for their fibre initiative. Perhaps some areas are better suited to some sort of wireless deployment and others will do just fine for subterranean cables.

 

[Afrikane]

Maybe Paul was the ghost writer..

or maybe it's that new fangled wireless technology called Hotair™

Anyway, tick tock; I have decisions to make...

[TD="align: left"]CrystalWeb:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]225gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"] R549 [/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Telkom:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R525[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Afrihost:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R399[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Axxess:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R379[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Vox[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R369[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Webafrica:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R199[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Mweb:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R199[/TD]

 

[PostManPat]

Maybe Paul was the ghost writer..

or maybe it's that new fangled wireless technology called Hotair™

Anyway, tick tock; I have decisions to make...

[TD="align: left"]CrystalWeb:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]225gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"] R549 [/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Telkom:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R525[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Afrihost:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R399[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Axxess:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R379[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Vox[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R369[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Webafrica:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R199[/TD]

[TD="align: left"]Mweb:[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]200gb[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]R199[/TD]

It's not only 225GB. You get state of the art IPC bandwidth that prioritizes CW first before every other ISP. They call it, premium™.

Forgot to mention the state of the art encryption service they add to it. The encryption is so good, it decrypts itself back to plain text when stored in a database.

 

[requiem]

It's not only 225GB. You get state of the art IPC bandwidth that prioritizes CW first before every other ISP. They call it, premium.

Forgot to mention the state of the art encryption service they add to it. The encryption is so good, it decrypts itself back to plain text when stored in a database.

Hahahahaha. Ten points