Depression.

Jhbgirl said:
Is adco-alzam 1mg very addictive?
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Yes.

It should really not be taken for more than a couple weeks in a row, and that is quite a high dose.

Alprazolam, like other benzodiazepines, binds to specific sites on the GABAA gamma-amino-butyric acid receptor. When bound to these sites, which are referred to as benzodiazepine receptors, it modulates the effect of GABA A receptors and, thus, GABAergic neurons. Long-term use causes adaptive changes in the benzodiazepine receptors, making them less sensitive to stimulation and less powerful in their effects.[64]

Withdrawal and rebound symptoms commonly occur and necessitate a gradual reduction in dosage to minimize withdrawal effects when discontinuing.[8]

Not all withdrawal effects are evidence of true dependence or withdrawal. Recurrence of symptoms such as anxiety may simply indicate that the drug was having its expected anti-anxiety effect and that, in the absence of the drug, the symptom has returned to pretreatment levels. If the symptoms are more severe or frequent, the patient may be experiencing a rebound effect due to the removal of the drug. Either of these can occur without the patient's actually being drug-dependent.[64]

Alprazolam and other benzodiazepines may also cause the development of physical dependence, tolerance, and benzodiazepine withdrawal symptoms during rapid dose reduction or cessation of therapy after long-term treatment.[65][66] There is a higher chance of withdrawal reactions if the drug is administered in a higher dosage than recommended, or if a patient stops taking the medication altogether without slowly allowing the body to adjust to a lower-dosage regimen.[67][68]

In 1992, Romach and colleagues reported that dose escalation is not a characteristic of long-term alprazolam users, and that the majority of long-term alprazolam users change their initial pattern of regular use to one of symptom control only when required.[69]

Some common symptoms of alprazolam discontinuation include malaise, weakness, insomnia, tachycardia, lightheadedness, and dizziness.[70]

Patients taking a dosing regimen larger than 4 mg per day have an increased potential for dependence. This medication may cause withdrawal symptoms upon abrupt withdrawal or rapid tapering, which in some cases have been known to cause seizures. The discontinuation of this medication may also cause a reaction called rebound anxiety.

Delirium and seizures have been anecdotally reported in the medical literature from abrupt alprazolam discontinuation.[71][72][73]

In a 1983 study of patients who had taken long-acting benzodiazepines, e.g., clorazepate, for extended periods, the medications were stopped abruptly. Only 5% of patients who had been taking the drug for less than 8 months demonstrated withdrawal symptoms, but 43% of those who had been taking them for more than 8 months did. With alprazolam – a short-acting benzodiazepine – taken for 8 weeks, 35% of patients experienced significant rebound anxiety. To some degree, these older benzodiazepines are self-tapering.[74]

The benzodiazepines diazepam (Valium) and oxazepam (Serepax) have been found to produce fewer withdrawal reactions than alprazolam (Xanax), temazepam (Restoril/Normison), or lorazepam (Temesta/Ativan). Factors that determine the risk of psychological dependence or physical dependence and the severity of the benzodiazepine withdrawal symptoms experienced during dose reduction of alprazolam include: dosage used, length of use, frequency of dosing, personality characteristics of the individual, previous use of cross-dependent/cross-tolerant drugs (alcohol or other sedative-hypnotic drugs), current use of cross-dependent/-tolerant drugs, use of other short-acting, high-potency benzodiazepines,[75][76] and method of discontinuation.[77]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alprazolam#Dependence_and_withdrawal
 
Jhbgirl said:
Is adco-alzam 1mg very addictive?
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its addictive but not very addictive.

You will get addicted with continuous use however if you use it when necessary like once or twice a week then you dont have to worry

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that is quite a high dose. You sure the doctor didnt mean ativan ? you should double check to see if they made a mistake
 
Would 30 adco alzam 1mg and 30 adco zolphidem 10mg do lasting damage? If taken together?
 
Jhbgirl said:
Would 30 adco alzam 1mg and 30 adco zolphidem 10mg do lasting damage? If taken together?
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What is it you are trying to achieve? Sleep, anxiety?

I don't like the z class of drugs, horrible shyte. Benzo drugs are better. Both are highly addictive and difficult get off of. Personally i would stay away from z class drugs and stick to benzos but either way you will get addicted if you misuse them or use them for a prolong period.

I would not take two highly addictive drugs together, you more than likely can but damn two highly addictive drugs taken together i would never do it but perhaps riax can give you more info. I tried z class drugs for sleep. Horrific, never again. Dorminoct is the best for sleep. Anxiety benzos work well but you will get addicted pretty fast.
 
Jhbgirl said:
Would 30 adco alzam 1mg and 30 adco zolphidem 10mg do lasting damage? If taken together?
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in short yes. They might be synergistic hard to tell. Generally the benzo is used when necessary for panic attacks and the barbiturate is used to maintain sleep.

So you dont take azlam and zolpidem together that a no no. You take azlam when you feel down or anxious or restless and need calm down

you use the zolpidem when you have trouble sleeping and it maintains the sedation.

@ swa

trace elements and vitamins dont do much for clinically depressed people. They can help I will grant you that but only in combination

Oh the "z" class are barbiturates and they are actually better to use long term for sleeping issues than the benzos. Either way both are addictive but the benzos are more problematic to remove.
 
RiaX said:
Oh the "z" class are barbiturates and they are actually better to use long term for sleeping issues than the benzos. Either way both are addictive but the benzos are more problematic to remove.
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The "z" class is not the same as barbiturates. It would be highly unusual for a doctor to prescribe barbiturates for insomnia.
 
Humberto said:
The "z" class is not the same as barbiturates. It would be highly unusual for a doctor to prescribe barbiturates for insomnia.
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Not unusual but they are terrible for sleep, i tried it when i was off dormicans and it was disgusting. Be careful, short acting sleeping tablets will lead to trouble, they are like roofies. You are awake and can function but your memory is totally wiped. I know with a z class drug i was given i would wake up with magnum packets on the floor. Dormicans even worse, that feeling when they first kick in is so amazing but after that you recall nothing. The things i have done on dormicans are scary.

If you want a sleeping tablet you go for long acting benzo's dorminoct is a good one. It doesn't make you high. Your short acting benzo's are terrible, your body cries for it the whole day, you get home and all you can think about is sleeping tablets lol. Dorminoct is 18 hours half so you don't withdraw from it during the day where as dormican has a half life of 9 hours. zolpidem only has a half of 2-3 hours half life i think so for sleep it is terrible. Bare in mind benzo's are one of the hardest drugs to get off. The short acting ones are the hardest. I do love my benzos though, currently on urbanol 10mg 3 times a day and o boy i know i am basically a legal addict but they do help my anxiety. Amazes me benzos are handed out like candy but MJ is banned.

Riax doctors should not prescribe short acting benzo sleeping tablets. 15-18 hour half is what you want in a sleep tablet, anything under 9 stay away from. Copa actually helped me realize that and i changed to a long acting one, helped me big time. if i can give you some advice and by no mean am i correct nor am i a professional but stay away from z class drugs.
 
Was feeling down. Hoped taking them all would put an end to it all.
 
Jhbgirl said:
Was feeling down. Hoped taking them all would put an end to it all.
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Removing yourself from the equation doesn't end it all, at least not for the people in your life - Instead it creates a great big ugly void.

Things do get better, and please talk to us here, and seek help if you think suicide is a good way to deal with things.
 
Jhbgirl said:
Was feeling down. Hoped taking them all would put an end to it all.
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It's pointless telling you that it's not worth taking your own life. When everything comes crashing down, the last thing you want to hear is someone telling you how great life is because for you it simply is not, right?
So, life sucks right now but can you think of a reason not to take all those pills?
 
killadoob said:
Not unusual but they are terrible for sleep, i tried it when i was off dormicans and it was disgusting. Be careful, short acting sleeping tablets will lead to trouble, they are like roofies. You are awake and can function but your memory is totally wiped. I know with a z class drug i was given i would wake up with magnum packets on the floor. Dormicans even worse, that feeling when they first kick in is so amazing but after that you recall nothing. The things i have done on dormicans are scary.

If you want a sleeping tablet you go for long acting benzo's dorminoct is a good one. It doesn't make you high. Your short acting benzo's are terrible, your body cries for it the whole day, you get home and all you can think about is sleeping tablets lol. Dorminoct is 18 hours half so you don't withdraw from it during the day where as dormican has a half life of 9 hours. zolpidem only has a half of 2-3 hours half life i think so for sleep it is terrible. Bare in mind benzo's are one of the hardest drugs to get off. The short acting ones are the hardest. I do love my benzos though, currently on urbanol 10mg 3 times a day and o boy i know i am basically a legal addict but they do help my anxiety. Amazes me benzos are handed out like candy but MJ is banned.

Riax doctors should not prescribe short acting benzo sleeping tablets. 15-18 hour half is what you want in a sleep tablet, anything under 9 stay away from. Copa actually helped me realize that and i changed to a long acting one, helped me big time. if i can give you some advice and by no mean am i correct nor am i a professional but stay away from z class drugs.
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yes they not my mistake. They an in between.

They can use a benzo for insomnia depends on the insomnia itself. If falling asleep is the trouble then they work well if maintaining the sleep is the problem then they wont work well unless you get the long acting like serepax. Even then the benzos lose the efficacy due to tolerance thus they arent useful in long term management.

Your hypnotics are far superior in this regard
 
RiaX said:
@ swa

trace elements and vitamins dont do much for clinically depressed people. They can help I will grant you that but only in combination
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19944540

It's amazing we are still living in the age where people think something can be cured by treating the symptoms. But then again with economic profiteering maybe not. Most cases of TRD are so because the body doesn't have adequate resources so trying to mask it will end up as failure.
 
Swa said:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19944540

It's amazing we are still living in the age where people think something can be cured by treating the symptoms. But then again with economic profiteering maybe not. Most cases of TRD are so because the body doesn't have adequate resources so trying to mask it will end up as failure.
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No swa the reason we treat symptomatically is not a conspiracy. Take that nonsense and put in but in your rear end. The reason its treated symptomatically is because science hasnt explained the disease. We dont know how the brain works on a fundamental reason. We know depression is a chemical imbalance but why the brain becomes imbalanced and doesnt have an ability to regain itself is unknown.

sigh I totally dont understand you. You say things with so much concrete evidence like evolution is rubbish. Though you will believe some idiot trying to sell you a supplement :confused: WTH
 
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