hj2k_x
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Why do we have to go to Dell or HP and what on earth do we want with an oct core system?
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Differences between Macs and PCs
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Why do we have to go to Dell or HP and what on earth do we want with an oct core system?
MadMailMan
Expert Member
Hang on! Let me get this straight. A PC is bad because Adobe doesn't have good manuals? 
What about a PC running Ubuntu or Fedora? Ok so maybe a PC isn't bad but Microsoft is bad because Adobe doesn't have good manuals? Does Adobe have good manuals for it's Mac software? No? Then surely a Mac is bad? I've NEVER had a problem getting maunuals and support for any Microsoft software.
Get your head out your arse please. Neither can do more than the other. Given the right software a PC can do exactly what a Mac can do and the other way around.
As for your argument that only rich people own Macs. Your econimics blows as bad as your "beautiful" code argument. I have both PC's and Macs and I'm not wealthy, I just need them both to do my job.
Personally I prefer the PC because there is just so much more software available for it. It's like owning a Ford Transit with it's 11 milion options against a Model T.
What about a PC running Ubuntu or Fedora? Ok so maybe a PC isn't bad but Microsoft is bad because Adobe doesn't have good manuals? Does Adobe have good manuals for it's Mac software? No? Then surely a Mac is bad? I've NEVER had a problem getting maunuals and support for any Microsoft software. Get your head out your arse please. Neither can do more than the other. Given the right software a PC can do exactly what a Mac can do and the other way around.
As for your argument that only rich people own Macs. Your econimics blows as bad as your "beautiful" code argument. I have both PC's and Macs and I'm not wealthy, I just need them both to do my job.
Personally I prefer the PC because there is just so much more software available for it. It's like owning a Ford Transit with it's 11 milion options against a Model T.
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killadoob
Honorary Master
O rubbish not even hp and dell rip you off that badly peter, so you are saying mac's are indeed a rip off then? Glad you finally admit that.
The Mac Experience
* you'll be seen as cool, as different, as a creative/media type, or as someone who's too thick to get to grips with Windows ;-)
* the unit will be visually appealing. Apple cases are well designed and match the monitors and other peripherals
* you are probably less at risk from viruses each time you go on the internet. Virus writers tend to concentrate their limited attention span on creating viruses for Windows based machines
* Apple has some good software including iMovie, iDVD and iTunes
* you'll have to put up with the silly names like iMovie, iDVD & iTunes
* There's only one butt to kick if your system doesn't work. No getting fobbed off by the software manufacturer saying the thingymijg is not compatible with the widgetiwoo and that the third party supplied whatyamaycallit is screwing up the operating system registry
* downside to the one-butt-to-kick principle is that if the one butt is not around you'll have no butt to kick. That is an inherent weakness in all proprietary solutions - what happens if the company ever goes bust?
* you can use Final Cut Pro (only available on a Mac)
* very poor gpu renamed to trick people
The PC Experience
* kick-ass speed, kick-ass speed, kick-ass speed. The top PC always beats the top Mac. It also costs around 1/3 less than the expensive mac.
* new developments - from dual processor operation to 64 bit computing - come out on the PC first
* better value, wider choice of components, easy upgrade paths
* the huge market share of the PC makes it something that WILL be around for a long time to come.
* a lot of the best video editing products are available for the PC only
* availability of lots of resources from advice, tips, support forums, and manuals to training videos, help, and online discussion groups mean that the PC user is quite spoilt really
* there's a phenomenal range of software available for PC users from a wide range of video editing software to special effects applications, format conversion programs and a range of other suites and utilities
* competition is good. It means that component prices from CPUs to video editing cards are being constantly improved and becoming more affordable
* once you get to grips with the interface, the menu system, right-clicking with the mouse, and shortcut keys you'll find that you can navigate quite adeptly around any Windows application
LOL 36k for a monster with dum dum dum a 9500gt
Wow mac must be making some serious coin out of the idioticly rich dumbasses who pay that kinda money.
Peter you drop 36k on a mac, you think lekka lemme run crysis in bootcamp, you realize upon loading crysis on low settings and running at 9FPS that you have been screwed. People moan about 2k microsoft charge for windows but say nothing about mac charging 36k for a mac with a 9500gt lol
How much are 9500gt's like 500 bucks so 35500 is what you are paying for a mac
Killa, if I can plonk R36K on a machine, I will also buy 16GB of RAM for it, 4x 2TB drives and a HD capture board worth R55K (just the board). If I can buy all that, I think I can easily afford a measly i7 PC with a 5870 - for what R25k?
What does an Nvidia Quadro go for? R45K at Sybaritic?
Why buy that, why not use a 4870 for R3K? People use them. They have their uses.
Anyway you're arguing apples and oranges. Sure a Tazz is cheaper than a i535 BMW - but hey the BW has a smoother ride.
hj2k_x
Honorary Master
That's not for gaming, dude.
You can even upgrade further and buy a Quadro.
All Macs come with dedicated GPUs- most PCs bought in stores come with what.... er Intel GMA. Now GMA is good too for low power use but it's not for gamers.
You seem to not understand what I'm saying and you repeat the same nonsense over and over again.
killadoob
Honorary Master
You are equating a tazz to bmw? Do you realize how crazy that is.
Mac lets say is a bmw, pc is a tazz i don't follow. A top end pc is faster than a top end mac so actually the mac is the tazz because it is slower
So you are paying the price of a bmw but buying a tazz
, makes no sense to me. pay 3 times as much for a mac and get a slower pc Peter we are not paying 36k for a pc with built in gpu are we, basically you are saying it is fine to pay 36k for a 9500gt
For 36k you can have an i7 system with a 5870x2 plus you can raid 2 256gb ssd drives and have some change for a beautiful monitor
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hj2k_x
Honorary Master
You are equating a tazz to bmw? Do you realize how crazy that is.
Mac lets say is a bmw, pc is a tazz i don't follow. A top end pc is faster than a top end mac so actually the mac is the tazz that the same price as the much faster top end pc.
So you are paying the price of a bmw but buying a tazz
I also didn't get the analogy.
but now you are comparing apples with oranges - whats the price of that mac, and whats the price of that Pc with onboard GMA graphics?
A 30 inch monitor and a Dell machine for $1299?
Even a 24 inch monitor and a Dell machine for $1299?
BS.
And the graphics on the Mac is a platformer - either thats a PS emulator or it's not using its GPU.
For R3K I can put a 4870 with 1GB RAM into a Mac Pro.
Anyway - you guys don't know what you're talking about, enjoy living in your inferior Windoze world
.This here laptop costs USD $3000 it cost more than a Mac Book Pro. Yes it's a Windows PC.
Take a Mac book with an NVidia GPU and similar res screen and same battery life and find a PC with the same screen res and same GPU and CPU, you'll find that the PC is either the same price or is more expensive. It's only cheaper machines with lower res screens, poor battery life and no ATI/NVIDIA GPU which are cheaper. Mac Books start at R12K nowadays in SA and that's with Core's big markup.
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Look, i basically asked whether one can play crisys with a mac - you answered with:
-you can't with an iMac
-you need a mac pro (which cost the price of a small car)
-you need to bootcamp into windows
and then changed it to simply that "Mac users do work, not play games"
I declared that pwned by my books...
-you can't with an iMac
-you need a mac pro (which cost the price of a small car)
-you need to bootcamp into windows
and then changed it to simply that "Mac users do work, not play games"
I declared that pwned by my books...
hj2k_x
Honorary Master
Anyway - you guys don't know what you're talking about, enjoy living in your inferior Windoze world
A fanboi through and through. Good luck with that.
killadoob
Honorary Master
We will enjoy our windows world peter, far more than 36k mac users with there 9500gt bwhahahahahah.
Wow mac okes must feel super special with that beast running their games.
Wow mac okes must feel super special with that beast running their games
.Wow mac okes must feel super special with that beast emulating/bootcamping their games
fixed?
We will enjoy our windows world peter, far more than 36k mac users with there 9500gt bwhahahahahah.
Wow mac okes must feel super special with that beast running their games
You just can't afford a Mac so you have to console yourself with those words.
Still haven't told me how you're gonna run Eternal Sonata on that Dual-SLI setup of yours?
So much for PC being kings of games.
I use both systems, I think that's hardly a fanboy.
And yes I even bought an XBOX360 to play 1 or 2 games - sometimes.