Discovery Vitality [2018]

Tinuva

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krycor

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Yeah that is a gimmick from China. It has their own Android/IOS app. Definitely will not sync to polar app, so useless for Discovery.
Yes and no.. you can use any cheaper chest HRM and it will work provided you are able to add the device to your approved aggregator. i.e. I have a cheapy bluetooth HRM which is collected by iOS/Health and thus my cheapy works. If i use the manufacturer app, then nope. So just check that u can add to the supported app.. i think u can even use a polar app and use a bluetooth/ant(if u have phone/dongle that supports ant) then send that.

My wife and I have both been one tile off a diamond for the past couple of weeks. That seems a bit suspicious to me - anyone else notice that?
I'm a bit lazy to do the maths right now but if the board wasn't rigged, there would be a roughly 35% probability that you're one tile off a diamond, so for four boards in a row the chances are quite slim. Anyone else notice that?
Dunno and this is again why a Gambling license is needed.. else who really is auditing it? I don't recall seeing anything about auditing of the reward platform. In the previous one with the major rewards i once got a the big holiday trip as a prize and then when it got to the claim window the app crashed. .. Guys in the office we laughing their arse off and also sad as it begged the question about rigging. (and then it forced a lesser prize and that prize also didnt work either)
 

vajavich

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has anyone else noticed that the boosters have been removed from the app? can't find them anywhere but they are advertised on the website as available.
 
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My wife and I have both been one tile off a diamond for the past couple of weeks. That seems a bit suspicious to me - anyone else notice that?
I'm a bit lazy to do the maths right now but if the board wasn't rigged, there would be a roughly 35% probability that you're one tile off a diamond, so for four boards in a row the chances are quite slim. Anyone else notice that?
Fiancee got 100 points on her first play. You are going to have to make a better case for a rigged board than 2 people who each played twice.
 

Jehosefat

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My wife and I have both been one tile off a diamond for the past couple of weeks. That seems a bit suspicious to me - anyone else notice that?
I'm a bit lazy to do the maths right now but if the board wasn't rigged, there would be a roughly 35% probability that you're one tile off a diamond, so for four boards in a row the chances are quite slim. Anyone else notice that?
Depends on how random your choice of tile was. If it was completely random then you have a 29% chance (ish) of being next to a diamond, if it was not random and you only picked tiles in the middle of the board then you have about a 42% chance of being next to a diamond. The chance of getting all 4 in a row then ranges from 0.7% to 3.1%. So unlikely but certainly not impossible.

(Disclaimer: all back-of-an-envelope calculations so I might be wrong)

Edit: Seems my maths is a bit off after building a quick simulation (1,000,000 sims). My probabilities above are conditional on you not getting the diamond. The unconditional probabilities are 27.5% and 40% respectively leading to the final range being 0.6% to 2.6%.
 
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amabacha

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has anyone else noticed that the boosters have been removed from the app? can't find them anywhere but they are advertised on the website as available.
Yes , tried to check out my Flight Booster payback on the app like I normally do but seems its been removed with the latest update. Still available on the website though...
 

EliteOp

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Depends on how random your choice of tile was. If it was completely random then you have a 29% chance (ish) of being next to a diamond, if it was not random and you only picked tiles in the middle of the board then you have about a 42% chance of being next to a diamond. The chance of getting all 4 in a row then ranges from 0.7% to 3.1%. So unlikely but certainly not impossible.

(Disclaimer: all back-of-an-envelope calculations so I might be wrong)

Edit: Seems my maths is a bit off after building a quick simulation (1,000,000 sims). My probabilities above are conditional on you not getting the diamond. The unconditional probabilities are 27.5% and 40% respectively leading to the final range being 0.6% to 2.6%.
But who says it isn't rigged? No matter what you choose, it will keep showing the Diamond as very close by, just like the slot machines in casino's.. Just randomly rolls so close to the jackpot every now and again.
Anybody know of anyone who won one of those Holiday trips or flights overseas in the previous "random" lucky wheel spins?
 

Jehosefat

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But who says it isn't rigged? No matter what you choose, it will keep showing the Diamond as very close by, just like the slot machines in casino's.. Just randomly rolls so close to the jackpot every now and again.
Anybody know of anyone who won one of those Holiday trips or flights overseas in the previous "random" lucky wheel spins?
67% chance of the diamond being within 2 tiles of the one you chose. 87% if you don't pick tiles on the edges or in the corners. They don't need to "rig" it to make the diamond look close. Statistically it almost always is.
 

EliteOp

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67% chance of the diamond being within 2 tiles of the one you chose. 87% if you don't pick tiles on the edges or in the corners. They don't need to "rig" it to make the diamond look close. Statistically it almost always is.
Thanks for adding numbers to what I meant in terms of close. And to clarify the "rig" part to everyone, as in, not actually ever hitting/getting the diamond but it always ever so slightly (Jehosefat's "67%") close...
 

jambai

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Discovery employs many actuaries (I mean even adrian gore is one)=this game has the odds in favor of discovery before we even start playing-they know how much it will cost them and basically the casino always wins and they still keep us engaged and have data on us etc etc etc.I think Over time we will find out most have lost more benefit with this new active rewards/ game except for a few that maybe win a holiday to dubai.It is just the way discovery seems to do things regarding vitality-promise benefits and then fall back and change it as consumers over use promised benefits - example like slow lounge and FNB did and discovery done a few times regarding moving goal posts-Please dont say slow lounge is not part of Discovery(I know) -used as similar example with same principle
 

EliteOp

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discovery employs many actuaries (I mean even adrian gore is one)=this game has the odds in favor of discovery before we even start playing-they know how much it will cost them and basically the casino always wins and they still keep us engaged.I think Over time we will find out most have lost more benefit with this new active rewards/ game except for a few that maybe win a holiday to dubai.It is just the way discovery seems to do things regarding vitality-promise benefits and then fall back and change it as consumers over use promised benefits - example like slow lounge and FNB
Jip, I made my goals 51 week streak and never won more than a smoothie a week. Actuaries on point...:confused:
 

abudabi

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....I think Over time we will find out most have lost more benefit with this new active rewards/ game ...
Yep.. Gone downhill from when it was launched to now. Used to get 2 smoothies a week, then down to 1 (but with added carrots that never materialised) and now not even 1 smoothie per week (assuming you will mostly get 25 points)

...It is just the way discovery seems to do things regarding vitality-promise benefits and then fall back and change it as consumers over use promised benefits - example like slow lounge and FNB did and discovery done a few times regarding moving goal posts-Please dont say slow lounge is not part of Discovery(I know) -used as similar example with same principle
Yeah good comparison to FNB and their ebucks progarm who has also been dropping the "value" over the last few years.
 

StrontiumDog

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Yep.. Gone downhill from when it was launched to now. Used to get 2 smoothies a week, then down to 1 (but with added carrots that never materialised) and now not even 1 smoothie per week (assuming you will mostly get 25 points)
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Would have been nice if they could have just reduced our individual medical aid premiums instead of free smoothies / extra calories. Of course legislation doesn't allow for this plus the fact that Vitality and DH are separate entities (speaking under correction here).

Edit: I suppose nothing would have stopped Vitality giving us cash back instead of smoothies?
 
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