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StephenLydall

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Nope, it definitely depends on the number of Discovery products you have. I only have Health/Vitality and my maximum was 175.
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I am somewhat skeptical about that hypothesis. Definitely is a very strong claim to make at this point unless you have some kind of access to data/information that most people don't?
 
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StephenLydall said:
I am somewhat skeptical about that hypothesis. Definitely is a very strong claim to make at this point unless you have some kind of access to data/information that most people don't?
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Boohoo, sure definitely was the wrong adverb to use, but very few people would jump onto someone's back on a forum and then scream for proof/data/information just to prove a point.

Early evidence suggests the board you play depends on the number of Discovery products you have...happy? ffs
 
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Boohoo, sure definitely was the wrong adverb to use, but very few people would jump onto someone's back on a forum and then scream for proof/data/information just to prove a point.

Early evidence suggests the board you play depends on the number of Discovery products you have...happy? ffs
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Not trying to be particular specifically but using the word definitely implies an authority in what is being said so really just trying to clarify if you genuinely have some knowledge that supports it, so not trying to call you out, sorry you took it that way. Being articulate simply removes ambiguity and does not need to be conflated with aggression or shouting.

Honestly tho there has been no data I've read here that suggests that the max is based on the number of products, merely data that doesn't disprove that hypothesis, although a response a few posts up, if accurate, would rule out the hypothesis altogether.
 
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I have health+vitality+lifeinsurance and my maximum was 100? I doubt the # of products is the reason.
What I DO suspect, is that I have been very inactive the last 6 months, so much so, that my health target is 300 points a week, so I bet that has something to do with me only have an up to 100 on the board.
 
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Tinuva said:
I have health+vitality+lifeinsurance and my maximum was 100? I doubt the # of products is the reason.
What I DO suspect, is that I have been very inactive the last 6 months, so much so, that my health target is 300 points a week, so I bet that has something to do with me only have an up to 100 on the board.
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Interesting Hypothesis.

I have health+vitality+home&car insurance. My maximum was 100. I get both my fitness and drive goals basically every single week, excepting this last week where I didn't drive 100km because work week was unusually quiet and I live 4km from work. So only had 1 play... dunno if that's got anything to do with it.

Personally I am working on the theory of a wild card tile, (or potentially multiple tiles) that could by chance have a higher value. Meaning that getting the higher value tile is simply a case of chance. The data set is currently so small it's really hard to see any real patterns yet.

I really am interested to figure out how this works seeing that last year between my wife and I, we earned over R10 000 in vitality rewards between us means it was a significant benefit. This year though it will likely be a lot closer to R3 500 if we are lucky...
 
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Not understanding? I got 50miles from a single spin. Where is this “bonus” 100miles that you speak of coming from?
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On businessinsider they did say most vitality members haven’t gotten their bonus 100 miles but they will by Friday. And after Friday it should be instantaneous for next week.
 
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I only have medical aid and vitality, I managed to get 50 DMs (1 of only 3 on my board) and my board max was 300. 95 and 90 where my next highest. I got one play, so for me I now get rewarded R5 where I used to get at least R25! Oh well at least I get free gym and very decent running shoes for very cheap! Oh and the healthy food cash back! Better than getting a nothing back!
 
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StephenLydall said:
Interesting Hypothesis.

I have health+vitality+home&car insurance. My maximum was 100. I get both my fitness and drive goals basically every single week, excepting this last week where I didn't drive 100km because work week was unusually quiet and I live 4km from work. So only had 1 play... dunno if that's got anything to do with it.

Personally I am working on the theory of a wild card tile, (or potentially multiple tiles) that could by chance have a higher value. Meaning that getting the higher value tile is simply a case of chance. The data set is currently so small it's really hard to see any real patterns yet.

I really am interested to figure out how this works seeing that last year between my wife and I, we earned over R10 000 in vitality rewards between us means it was a significant benefit. This year though it will likely be a lot closer to R3 500 if we are lucky...
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I’ve also been very diligent about getting all 3 rewards every week (3 plays). I was excited that a 4th would be added with the new system. I honestly expected each tile to be 250 DMiles at least (in line with the old 25 points minimum) or perhaps 100 DMiles less to compensate for them giving 100 DMiles for closing the ring. So the expectation was 150 minimum. I have ALL their products and am Diamond on all 3. My max this week was 95! Very demotivating. Apparently I’m not the only one disappointed. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/o...-smoothies-for-achieving-goals-anymore-2020-1 IMG_5733.JPG
 
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I’ve also been very diligent about getting all 3 rewards every week (3 plays). I was excited that a 4th would be added with the new system. I honestly expected each tile to be 250 DMiles at least (in line with the old 25 points minimum) or perhaps 100 DMiles less to compensate for them giving 100 DMiles for closing the ring. So the expectation was 150 minimum. I have ALL their products and am Diamond on all 3. My max this week was 95! Very demotivating. Apparently I’m not the only one disappointed. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/o...-smoothies-for-achieving-goals-anymore-2020-1 View attachment 767790
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You should of gotten 1 extra play so you should of gotten at least 230 miles plus and extra 400 miles for meeting your all your goals. In the old system the lowest you can get is 75 points, you got 63 worth of points. If you a Kauai smoothie lover. You should more or less be the same. Since you can now buy the smoothie for less.

It is a decrease but not a 80% decrease as per Facebook. This new change impacts on the vitality only members allot more than you.
 
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I got my 100 miles for completing the fitness goal and got 50 miles on the play. Way less than the 25 points that use to be the minimum.

I use to get to the R250 rewards regularly, say after max 8 weeks, now it can easily take double that time.

I'm very unimpressed with their badly disguised way of making more profit but I realize that ultimately profit is the only reason the company exists and not any customer's physical or financial health.

I also note that as soon as you close a ring you get your 100 miles so the 100 I got was for this week (11-17 Jan) and not for the previous successful week. With the changeover they kind of forgot to compensate people for that already completed week. Although they claim to be aware of the issue.
 
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travelluminati said:
I’ve also been very diligent about getting all 3 rewards every week (3 plays). I was excited that a 4th would be added with the new system. I honestly expected each tile to be 250 DMiles at least (in line with the old 25 points minimum) or perhaps 100 DMiles less to compensate for them giving 100 DMiles for closing the ring. So the expectation was 150 minimum. I have ALL their products and am Diamond on all 3. My max this week was 95! Very demotivating. Apparently I’m not the only one disappointed. https://www.businessinsider.co.za/o...-smoothies-for-achieving-goals-anymore-2020-1 View attachment 767790
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It's very interesting to see some of game board options that are coming up, this latest revelation that the max tile on the board can be less that 100 points is also interesting, although this board has a potential higher reward on 4 picks than that of some of the other boards that I have a seen. Due to having 2 x 95 tiles and 2 x 90 tiles. Had you picked the 4 best tiles you would have netted more than my initial example. Although to be honest a difference of 10-15 miles is worth R1.50 so it certainly not an earth shattering a revelation.

Based on all the game board sample seen the average game board reward per pick is somewhere in the region of 75-80 points at best, so all things considered it is and there really isn't much room in the new numbers for any significant awards. Honestly at this point the game board values differences are now trivial enough that honestly I would actually prefer just get a set number of miles when I achieve my goal rather than having to remember to play the board every week.

On the bonus tile potentially being a 300 point tile the reality of that is that at best you have a 4 in 20 chance of getting the tile, which means you would pick on average a little over 1 every 5 weeks, if the chance of that tile being a 300 point tile is 1 in 5, then you would on average pick that tile on average twice a year. So whoop, whoop, I might if I am extra diligent and have all three of the rings at my disposal, get 2 or 3 extra coffees in a year...

At this point the board only serves as a reminder to how rubbish the new rewards system is, and whichever way the marketing people at discovery are trying to spin this it's not convincing anyone that it is remotely an improvement instead the argument has shifted to convince people that instead of giving it a 1 out of 10 rating they should be happy that it's actually a 3 out of 10. Given that this is a reward system and it serves as a function of a business and if it wasn't sustainable and it couldn't continue at the reward levels it was paying out at then it stands to reason that the numbers needed to be adjusted. But this was very poorly thought out plan... just saying!
 
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