E-tolls get a start date

Jola said:
OK, so now I need a GPS that can handle an obstruction in one direction of a highway, and will route around that.

None of my Garmins can do that, and the TomToms that I have seen cannot either.
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Tomtom asks if you wish to avoid the toll route. Not familiar with other brands
 
Well i can see how this will play out, assuming it does start.

People will just ignore it all, they will get bills in the mail (actually they won't, the post office will be too incompetent to actually deliver it) .They most likely won't bother actually taking you to court/arresting you , but at some point when you renew your license they will suddenly require you to pay your outstanding amount of etoll fees....
 
spiff said:
well all I can say is "vasbyt" to my JHB friends, now is the time to stomp out the shyte and then do it again next year when you vote the cANCer out of power!
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Too many people just vote for the ANC irrespective of their mediocre performance.
 
bet you tons of plans for people to go to GP over festive season might have gotten cancelled after reading this.
 
diabolus said:
Well i can see how this will play out, assuming it does start.

People will just ignore it all, they will get bills in the mail (actually they won't, the post office will be too incompetent to actually deliver it) .They most likely won't bother actually taking you to court/arresting you , but at some point when you renew your license they will suddenly require you to pay your outstanding amount of etoll fees....
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Arresting you for what? Refrain from scare-mongering. And stop asserting generalisations into facts. Your post is reckless... :D
 
xeslaro said:
Arresting you for what? Refrain from scare-mongering. And stop asserting generalisations into facts. Your post is reckless... :D
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For the criminal offence of using a toll road without paying, its an actual law implemented since 1998.

Its not like they can cause issues with your credit history, since the tolling is not a credit matter.
 
I'm not getting an e-tag and I'm not paying for this corrupt system either,if they want my money they'll have to stop me at a roadblock and produce an arrest warrant at which point I will pay after making sure they have all their ducks in a row.

If we all make it an administrative nightmare for them then it will fail.

This corrupt system must fail or else it means democracy has failed South Africans.Atleast under the care of the corrupt ANC.Enough is enough I'm not standing behind the ANC anymore.
 
diabolus said:
Well i can see how this will play out, assuming it does start.

People will just ignore it all, they will get bills in the mail (actually they won't, the post office will be too incompetent to actually deliver it) .They most likely won't bother actually taking you to court/arresting you , but at some point when you renew your license they will suddenly require you to pay your outstanding amount of etoll fees....
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They said the same thing about outstanding fine, never happened...... Do not listen to SANRAL propaganda!
 
Bad as it may sound, people should in fact not avoid tolls.

Drive under them as much as possible, lets overload them together!
 
How will they deliver a bill if I don't even get my fines? And this is after I requested them 10000000000000000000000 times to update my details. Oh well, if I don't get anything how should I know what I must pay.
 
Public fury over e-tolls date

Johannesburg - Transport Minister Dipuo Peters' announcement that e-tolling of Gauteng's highways will begin soon was met with anger and sadness on Wednesday.

"[Cosatu] has noted with anger the announcement that e-tolls will be implemented on Gauteng highways on December 3," spokesperson Patrick Craven said in a statement.

The Democratic Alliance said it was "a sad day" for Gauteng and the country that government had ignored public opposition to the tolling.

Opposition to Urban Tolling Alliance (Outa) chairperson Wayne Duvenage said the e-tolling system was doomed to failure. It was inefficient, irrational, and would enrich overseas companies at the expense of motorists.

Outa believed the most equitable way to pay for the maintenance of the highways would be through a fuel levy.

"We call on society to exercise moral courage and resist the system on the basis that there are far too many things wrong with e-tolling. The system will fail," he said.

A legal challenge to e-tolling by Outa was dismissed by the Supreme Court of Appeal last month. Outa announced on October 18 it did not have money to continue the legal fight against e-tolling. Outa's argument remained that the SA National Roads Agency Limited (Sanral) and government did not conduct a proper public participation process.

Craven said the Congress of SA Trade unions would not give up its fight against e-tolling.

"[Cosatu] reaffirms its continued total opposition to this attempt to privatise our public roads and force us to pay to travel on roads we have already paid for through taxes and the fuel levy."

He said motorists should refuse to buy e-tags, as there was "absolutely no legal obligation" to do so.

Cosatu has been a fervent opponent of e-tolling and held several "drive-slow" campaigns and marches to protest against the introduction of the tolls.

DA Gauteng premier candidate Mmusi Maimane said in a statement most Gauteng residents would eventually feel the impact of the tolls.

"Residents who are not regular road users will feel the pinch through increased food and living expenses."

He said e-tolling would likely be extended to the N14 Krugersdorp Highway, sections of the M1, the N14 to Pretoria, N3 to Heidelberg, the R59, and sections of the N12.

"I encourage you to take this frustration to the ballot box next year and vote out the government that has enforced this system on an unwilling province."

Earlier this month, the DA and the Freedom Front Plus announced they would each bring high court applications to fight the constitutionality of the e-toll bill President Jacob Zuma signed in September.

They argue that e-tolling will affect the competency of provincial government and municipalities by affecting urban planning, public transport, and traffic regulations.

Peters said in Pretoria on Wednesday that electronic tolling would contribute to the fight against licence plate cloning and reduce congestion.

She said government had made several concessions to minimise the financial burden on road users paying for the e-tolled road network.

"Sanral should be allowed to start collecting toll fees in order to begin to repay the debt incurred when the roads were upgraded," she told reporters in Pretoria.

"We cannot afford to continue to expose Sanral's portfolio to any further financial risks..."

Peters encouraged the public to buy e-tags because without them motorists would not benefit from discounts.
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Sadness
 
BBSA said:
They said the same thing about outstanding fine, never happened...... Do not listen to SANRAL propaganda!
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When last have you tried renewing your driver's license? (or tried obtaining another one/different one?) They don't issue it if you got unpaid fines. The renewal of your annual disc is another story.
 
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