Fight against SA's Affirmative Action

Sherbang said:
erm... whites created apartheid, maintained it for 40 years and now you want them to be heroes for ending it?
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Silly child
No, just acknowledgement that the whites that are in this country were in favor of ending an unjust reprehensible system their forefathers had put in place and were all for equal rights for all!
 
Sherbang said:
erm... whites created apartheid, maintained it for 40 years and now you want them to be heroes for ending it?
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Your post shows a lack of knowledge. These were compromises made for a non-racial democracy, a new beginning. Not reverse discrimination. There would be no transition without engagement, honoring agreements and participation in the spirit of the agreements. No agreement was entered for reverse discrimination.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Do you think China and Russia, or any BRICK member, will be coherent under these conditions?
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Well they are already in the same boat, China and Russia has long been known offenders of human rights, and it is going to catch up with them. Russia is currently being crushed by sanctions and all kinds of blowback for various policies and actions , and it's clear it's not sustainable for them if they don't change. If Russia's economy tank, then they will not make a very good trading partner as they can't afford to invest in SA (irrespective of their stance on racism) .

Plus if the USA continues to recover at the pace it is, China will be suffering the same fate as Russia...
 
Sherbang said:
erm... whites created apartheid, maintained it for 40 years and now you want them to be heroes for ending it?
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It just goes to show, broken record, how you lump ALL members of a different race into one category. I guess it's okay for the rest of us to do that then, AIDS showerer? Did those self-same instigators vote against apartheid in 1992? Are these same people alive today, being punished for the past? No, and no.
 
Sherbang said:
erm... whites created apartheid, maintained it for 40 years and now you want them to be heroes for ending it?
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So, if you were 1 years old at the creation of apartheid you'd now be 60. So, by all means blame the 60+'s even though at age 1, I doubt they had anything to do with it

How can you constantly blame white people? Majority of us had **** all to do with it and were against it, which is one of the reasons it was brought down
 
Clearly, like government, some support retribution in the form of internationally unlawful legislation.
 
ngwe23 said:
So is a mere referendum meant to atone for what went on in SA when white were in power? BS
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Another silly child.
Of course not. Equal rights for all means exactly that, not reverse discrimination.
Sure some redress and mechanisms are required.

Maybe you want to flog white people in public for the next 200 years to suitably atone for what other people did when they were not even alive? I dunno, what would satisfy your hatred?

Remind me again who the racists are?
 
Sherbang said:
erm... whites created apartheid, maintained it for 40 years and now you want them to be heroes for ending it?
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so did all whites get together, decided to oppress blacks ? If I use that logic, then i should now blame all blacks for corruption, crime, nepotism, failing infrastructure and unemployment ? Or is this the doing of the current government.

You fail to realise that the general white population was powerless in apartheid, not only that, but they were oppressed in different ways, youth weren't allowed to speak their mind, you weren't even allowed to listen to music that the government deemed offensive. Until people like you wake up and realize that the people in power WANT you to blame 'the past' for everything that is wrong, and they WANT you to hate whites, why ? Because it keeps the focus of them and what they are up to.

Re-direct your anger [btw, all the whites that anything to do with setting up apartheid, are long dead by now..] for whites, to the people that are currently in power, to the people in power with Billions of rands available to end these injustices, and what do they do ? Nkandla / Armsgate / Maywaeter fights .

Unless, you are just blatantly racist against whites, in which case come out and say it, and we can work on that,but to blame the whites of today for what our great forefarthers did, is a bit silly, don't you think ?
 
ngwe23 said:
These people are the biggest whingers the world has seen. Them and Afriforum how alleged that there was s white genocide in SA. White poeple are doing OK in SA. Black people on the other hand...
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Where have they claimed that?

ngwe23 said:
Mandela gave the perpetrators and beneficiaries of Apartheid a clean bill of health despite their screw ups. He gave them a free get out of jail card. Unfortunately, that has led them to not talking responsibility of their actions. All we are saying is share the economy with those that were repressed so that we can all benefit from the fruit of the land, alas that is a bitter pill to swallow. They would go to the extend of going to the UN simply because steps are taken to equalise the gap between black and white.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/nathanwpyle/this-teacher-taught-his-class-a-powerful-lesson-about-privil
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What does this mean, in practice? I've asked you this repeatedly, and you never answer.

Milano said:
This is conveniently forgotten. Those facts died with Mandela. Like the fact that the majority-white SADF maintained law and order to ensure a peaceful transition, instead of engaging in a civil war. These are inconvenient truths.
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So we should thank them for not engaging in a civil war? :erm:

Bizkit87 said:
so for all this 'hatred' and 'legacy' of whites, why don't you guys ever mention the 1992 referendum where 68% of whites voted to end apartheid ?? Why is this never mentioned ? Or have you forgot that 'whites' also played a role in ending apartheid ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_apartheid_referendum,_1992
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You mean after the writing was already on the wall, the country was bankrupt and there was potential for civil war? Gee, how altruistic. :rolleyes:
 
ellyally said:
So, if you were 1 years old at the creation of apartheid you'd now be 60. So, by all means blame the 60+'s even though at age 1, I doubt they had anything to do with it

How can you constantly blame white people? Majority of us had **** all to do with it and were against it, which is one of the reasons it was brought down
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Settle down, no one is blaming you. You did however benefit.
 
ellyally said:
So, if you were 1 years old at the creation of apartheid you'd now be 60. So, by all means blame the 60+'s even though at age 1, I doubt they had anything to do with it

How can you constantly blame white people? Majority of us had **** all to do with it and were against it, which is one of the reasons it was brought down
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erm... The majority of adults today were born during apartheid, were educated under apartheid.
Especially the politicians and private sector leaders, as well as all the poverty stricken. There is no getting away from that.
 
Very simple..Wait for the outcome at the UN. I remember Pik Botha also thought he could tell the UN to go to hell. All racists clearly think the same :D
 
Comments in this thread remind me of a Zapiro cartoon,

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Just replace "Statues" with "Whites"
 
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