First election results in

We'll only be able to draw absolute conclusions once final results are in. The bigger the ward, the longer the count, the bigger its effect on overall figures once tallied.

What does seem apparent is that there is ever more consolidation of opposition behind the DA; the small parties - other than the novelty that is MalEmmer - very near don't feature. Keep in mind that, should things stay near where they are at the moment, the change from 16-odd percent to 24-odd percent for the DA represents them near doubling their support from 2009.

The ANC will only dramatically start losing support when age starts diminishing the numbers of those loyal to it on principle and history, rather than logic.
 
one has to believe that in the suburban areas the masses will have the sense to reliase that the anc are idiots and don't know how to govern the country and are using the taxpayers money at their own leisure. let's wait and see shall we.
 
I've just looked at the number of voting stations counted. We are still very, very early into these results. I think it will only be really clear which way these elections are going by 2pm or so. I mean COJ hasn't even submitted any data yet.
 
Tander said:
I've just looked at the number of voting stations counted. We are still very, very early into these results. I think it will only be really clear which way these elections are going by 2pm or so. I mean COJ hasn't even submitted any data yet.
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Where can I check that?
 
The African National Congress has passed the three million votes mark while the Democratic Alliance passed the million votes mark on Thursday morning in the fifth national elections.

At 8.50am the ANC had 3,238,093 votes, making up 60.45 percent of all counted votes and the DA had 1,374,148 votes, making up 25.65 percent of the counted votes.

The Economic Freedom Fighters had 233,226 (4.35 percent) of the votes and the United Democratic Movement had 54,219 (1.01 percent) of the votes.

The Freedom Front Plus 59,437, (1.11 percent), the Congress of the People 44,183 (0.82 percent), Inkatha Freedom Party 116,574 (2.18 percent), Agang SA 10,841 (0.20 percent) and the National Freedom Party had 81,183 (1.52 percent) votes.

A total of 5,488,726 votes had been counted.
 
Gulio said:
United supporters never stopped supporting United when Moyes took over, even though they dont like Moyes.
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Yes, but they wanted Moyes out. I don't see ANC supporters demanding that their thieving president be booted out in order to try and change the way the party is run.
 
AstroTurf said:
In the news24 app you can zoom in to any province or town and it shows by party colour or greyed out if not in yet.
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No website? My phone's in for repair and I only have a R120 piece of junk phone here with me :)
 
HapticSimian said:
We'll only be able to draw absolute conclusions once final results are in. The bigger the ward, the longer the count, the bigger its effect on overall figures once tallied.

What does seem apparent is that there is ever more consolidation of opposition behind the DA; the small parties - other than the novelty that is MalEmmer - very near don't feature. Keep in mind that, should things stay near where they are at the moment, the change from 16-odd percent to 24-odd percent for the DA represents them near doubling their support from 2009.

The ANC will only dramatically start losing support when age starts diminishing the numbers of those loyal to it on principle and history, rather than logic.
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All good points, but also remember that in the 2011 municipal elections (I know, you can't really compare apples with oranges, but it's still a fair comparison) that the ANC got around 61% and the DA 24% on the PR system. So I think the DA would have hoped to further increase the national vote now to over 30%.
 
I am also disappointed. The guys go crazy in Bekkersdal, terrible service delivery etc. Results come in, ANC wins outright. What the actual bananas?
 
Dames said:
All good points, but also remember that in the 2011 municipal elections (I know, you can't really compare apples with oranges, but it's still a fair comparison) that the ANC got around 61% and the DA 24% on the PR system. So I think the DA would have hoped to further increase the national vote now to over 30%.
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I hear ya, hence my wait-and-see stance... Big numbers still coming in...
 
Brenden_E said:
I am also disappointed. The guys go crazy in Bekkersdal, terrible service delivery etc. Results come in, ANC wins outright. What the actual bananas?
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"My husband beats the **** out of me every day... but in the past he was nice. Maybe he'll be nice to me again tomorrow"
 
HiToKiRi said:
So basically "same s**t, different day" for another 5 years....didn't expect much else TBH.

I just can't see any radical changes coming to our political landscape...not in my lifetime anyway. It will take YEARS and YEARS before we see the dominance of the ANC slip away. While people continue to vote with their emotions instead of their heads we won't see any positive change.
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It is disheartening but 21% indicates a ~5% growth for the DA from 2009, which in turn saw a 4.3% growth from 2004. As long as this trend continues.

And as I mentioned early, a lot of the older ANC voters may well be voting for the ANC due to its legacy. Newer generations will hopefully not feel indebted to them and the legacy they see will be one of corruption and mismanagement, so that growth rate may be accelerated further. Just have to hope that the country is worth something 10-15 years down the line.
 
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