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izzy clearly has no clue as to most of african history..... or that most slave catchers were black......
 
Vrotappel said:
Why should it be moved if it affronts some? Why pander to people who is only interested in destruction?

Mandela ordered the murder of innocents, should we not be tearing down his statues?
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No statues no problem, tear them all down.
 
Vorastra said:
Look at his Twitter...or my comment?
He's already made it clear he has no intention of doing so.
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My 2c, Crews is correct. There is no BLM leadership, but what there is now are many individuals and groups who are collectively BLM with their own ideas and ideals, and 'each' is trying to establish a doctrine. Cohesion is lost, anti-system is prioritised. You are either with or against them.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1269840577127788545
 
Vrotappel said:
Why should it be moved if it affronts some? Why pander to people who is only interested in destruction?
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If it is public property then I don't see the problem with people wanting to waste their finite lives in organizing a democratic process to get it removed.
 
cerebus said:
I never said it did, but there's a fine line between vandalism and revolution. How you perceive this depends on what side of the fence you're sitting. Personally I'm not for tearing down Churchill statues, but I think some public reckoning with the uglier aspects of historical figures is necessary.
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Revolution is vandalism and worse. It is also particularly stupid to be a revolutionary in a democracy,.
 
konfab said:
Oh right, because all white people were guilty.
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That would be ludicrous, isn't it? Besides, Mandela was fighting the system and not white people. The struggle against apartheid was a struggle against the government and its policies.
 
ForceFate said:
BS
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Since we are airing our opinions/facts.

He ordered bombs to be planted in venues where his organization could via terrorism kill innocents. He was a terrorist.

His organization routinely tortured and killed blacks that did not fall into line. Also terrorism.

He lifted the ban on abortions making him a mass murderer of babies..... with abortion alone he is probably responsible for killing more blacks than the NP and British combined.
 
konfab said:
No it isn't actually.
History is there for people to read and draw their own conclusions from. This is what civilization demands of people.

What these fine upstanding "revolutionaries" want to do is wipe history out and start again anew. It is exactly the game played by ISIS, when they go and blow up statues.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_heritage_by_ISIL
You take away your enemy's history and you take away something that they can rally around.
It is the characteristic hallmark of every totalitarian society.

Public statues are publicly owned, which means that if people want to take them down, they have to follow a democratic process, not a mob process. Then the statue can be taken down and moved to somewhere more appropriate.
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Strawman.

What ISIS did with historical monuments is not the same thing.

Those were cultural icons and not specific statues of individuals.

Vandalism in specific contexts can be a legitimate expression of free speech.
 
konfab said:
The Romans had slaves and were pretty nasty to just about everyone.

So I guess you are on the side of ISIS then since blowing up their architecture is a fight against white supremacy.

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Roman architecture is not a statue. Strawman.
 
Most likely a redneck Trumptard

Man drives car into Seattle protest crowd and shoots demonstrator

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A man drove his car into a crowd of protesters in Seattle on Sunday, then shot and wounded a demonstrator who confronted him as he came to a stop, according to police and eyewitness video.

Seattle police said firefighters took the man who was shot to the hospital and that he was in stable condition. No one else was injured, the police said.

The suspect was seen in the video exiting his car as protesters began to surround it at about 8.30pm local time near the Seattle police department’s east precinct. He brandished what appeared to be a gun, dashed through the crowd and turned himself over to police.

The incident was in contrast to the mostly peaceful weekend protests sparked by the death of George Floyd last month while in Minneapolis police custody.

The injured protester, named as Daniel, 26, lifted his fist in the air as medics walked him off the scene. He said he had punched the man in the car in an attempt to disarm him after he drove into the crowd of demonstrators.

“I see a car run down [the street] … I catch him. I punch him in the face. I hear the gunshot go off in my arm – and I move right in time,” he said. “My whole thing was to protect those people.”


Streets in countless cities and towns across America filled with demonstrators again on Sunday as largely peaceful protests over systemic racism and police brutality, sparked by the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis, headed towards a third week.

Rallies swelled as some cities lifted the evening curfews and withdrew national guard support, and protesters claimed a landmark victory as a veto-proof majority of the Minneapolis city council pledged to dismantle the city’s troubled police force.

The scenes were markedly different from the previous weekend, which saw police beating back protesters with teargas and batons, and a non-violent gathering in a Washington DC park on Monday forcibly cleared in military-style assault ahead of a photo opportunity for Donald Trump.

Meanwhile, the body of Floyd, 46, whose killing on Memorial Day when a Minneapolis police officer kneeled on his neck for almost nine minutes was captured on a now infamous video, arrived in his home town of Houston on Sunday for a public viewing on Monday, and a private funeral on Tuesday.
 
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