the crap had just hit the fan. Fungai was leaving the immediate vicinity. every story has three sides. As do most hijackings have three robbers involved. Hurrah for the captain. This is why Zing left the police.
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Hijacker Killer labelled a racist
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If someone is threatening my or anyone else's life first prize is to kill them. If there is more than one it is absolutely essential that some of them be killed.
They certainly do pose an immediate danger. Better to kill them while they're across the room. In my case I'd have to go across the room and kill them with my bare hands. There you see they were actually close by, and with a knife. A clear case of an immediate threat.
Considering that there are other people in the house it would be imperative that I kill the attacker before they harm anyone else.
If someone is sneaking around in my garden I am going to rightly assume they're up to no good, have a high probability of intending to kill members of my household and probably have accomplices. Basically if someone is sneaking around my property I should have the right to kill them as a potential threat. Particularly in this country. If they're inside my home there should be no question, just use deadly force and be done with it.
Zing the only problems in shooting to wound is that you may still kill the person if you inadvertently hit a vital area, the suspect may still pose a threat such as in this case where the hijacker who was shot and still held on to his gun and most people will shoot for the centre mass as this is the easiest shot.
Even if that person has already stabbed you and is leaving you, and you have the strength to get your firearm and then track down the thug, you may not shoot if he is running away
I don’t think this is correct; I will look for the relevant reference
Albreth I never claimed that trespassing was a schedule 1 offence, it is the Criminal Procedures Act and is does apply
Section 49 of the Criminal Procedure Act, 1977, provides that, where a person is to be arrested for one of the serious Schedule 1 offences or for attempting to commit one of those offences and the arrester, whether a police officer, a private individual or someone assisting in the arrest, 'cannot arrest him or prevent him from fleeing by other means than by killing him, the killing shall be deemed to be justifiable homicide'.
Even if that person has already stabbed you and is leaving you, and you have the strength to get your firearm and then track down the thug, you may not shoot if he is running away
I don’t think this is correct; I will look for the relevant reference
Albreth I never claimed that trespassing was a schedule 1 offence, it is the Criminal Procedures Act and is does apply
Section 49 of the Criminal Procedure Act, 1977, provides that, where a person is to be arrested for one of the serious Schedule 1 offences or for attempting to commit one of those offences and the arrester, whether a police officer, a private individual or someone assisting in the arrest, 'cannot arrest him or prevent him from fleeing by other means than by killing him, the killing shall be deemed to be justifiable homicide'.
First prize is not a requirement of law. It is a strong suggestion of experience.
and you might want to recheck that section, it has been rewritten, check your governemt gazzette, 1998 august(not sure about month)
and you might want to recheck that section, it has been rewritten, check your governemt gazzette, 1998 august(not sure about month)
Yip its crap laws...
I threw a Medium sized Viro lock at some would be robber running down our drive way... he had no gun but I still threw the lock at him...
Broke his chin and lots of teeth. I got handcuffed... but luckily thats all. Could have been worst if my lawyer neighbor wasnt there.
One question.... was the hijackers gun loaded?
I know the reservist wouldnt have known but I want to....
I'm sure he checked the hijackers gun for bullets, loaded extra just in case the hijacker didn't stand a fair chance in a gun fight, switched the hijacker's safety to off, gave him a written warning signed in tri-duplicate, apologised for being pigmently-challenged and therefore a racist and then shot him in cold blood. Poor hijacker deserved to be treated with such respect, even if he did not respect others and threaten to kill innocent people. Good people should let bad people get away with crime.
Actually he should have shot him centre and then for a encore a headshot. I would have done the booming voice effect "HEADSHOT" and clapped for him had I been there.
I think the lady in the Porsche bumped the "hijacker" and the reservist being the hero he is created this whole scene and blackmailed the Porsche lady into having after hour liasons with him.
dlk001
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I want you as my lawyer
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Anyone wielding a gun in public and threatening the lives of others in otder to commit a crime has as good as written the words "Target - Please shoot me" on their forehead.
They took the risk. They paid the price.
They took the risk. They paid the price.
semiautomatix
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Isn't the US introducing a shoot first ask questions later policy, should a suspect be armed - maybe we could get lessons?
EDIT: well, except for Marc Ishlove, of course
EDIT: well, except for Marc Ishlove, of course
Zing went the strings of my heart.....
I think the guy is a hero.... and btw, if I were alone at home and a guy came over the wall and I could pot him I would. No questions... Ive already checked out the holding cells in advance....
He would be a troll if his SOLE purpose was to upset people. IMHO he stated his opinion and while I disagree that these 2 criminals weren't risking the woman's life I have to say that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
However really, the woman SHOULD have handed over her Porshe and
ring over. Fighting armed men is a NO-NO. Just hand everything over,
you'll get the insurance money back later. This incident could have gone
horribly wrong, this financial adviser (I don't know why people
believe guys who advise on stock options and retirement annuities
are experts at thinking under pressure) could have missed, his bullet
could have richoched off something and say hit someone else who was
walking nearby or these thugs' could have started shooting indiscriminatly.
First blame goes to the hijackers, obviously, they got what they deserved.
Second blame goes to the woman who's greed could have cost
other people their lives, the said reservist and anyone else caught in the
cross fire. If she can afford a Porshe she should afford an insurance
premium for it and fighting these two buggers was uncalled for.
dlk001
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glad you asked because most people who want to advise me on stock options and RA don't come across that way at all.
Isn't the US introducing a shoot first ask questions later policy, should a suspect be armed - maybe we could get lessons?
EDIT: well, except for Marc Ishlove, of course
That's in some states. In other countries where guns are rare,
violent crime is very rare. I can speak having lived in an Eastern
European country (where guns were outlawed) as a child, we had virtually zero violent crime,
bar the occasional taxi driver murder. Violent crime was very
rare and murderers were hanged after a trial with right to appeal,
but the violence rate was very low. I believe the same can be
said of 1st world countries with low gun ownership - I'll bring
Japan up again, where violent crime is exceptionally rare.
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Why should the lady hand over her ring? I would advise my wife to hand over her jewellery, but did it occur to you that the ring could have more than just monetary value to her?
Anyway, if I'm robbed I want a Marc to save the day for me, rather than losing my money, sentimental objects and leaving the duty of recovery with the police.
Anyway, if I'm robbed I want a Marc to save the day for me, rather than losing my money, sentimental objects and leaving the duty of recovery with the police.