'I'll teach you to **** off'

ToxicBunny said:
No, unfortunately for your warped view on reality.. Manners show people what kind of person you are, and the fact that you think manners are only used if you want someone to like you shows EXACTLY what kind of person you are.
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Indeed. That is my intention.

Sometimes you want someone to believe you're a good, solid, dependable person. You might want a client to believe this, or an employer, or a judge. To these people, the intelligent person shows impeccable manners.

Sometimes, however, you want someone to believe that you're dangerous, unpredictable, perhaps sociopathic even... Sometimes its easier to get people to do what you want them to if they are scared of what you might do to them.

To your friends and loved ones, you adopt neither of these farcical approaches, unless you really are a sociopath. To your friends and loved ones, you are honest.
 
general_koffi said:
Indeed. That is my intention.

Sometimes you want someone to believe you're a good, solid, dependable person. You might want a client to believe this, or an employer, or a judge. To these people, the intelligent person shows impeccable manners.

Sometimes, however, you want someone to believe that you're dangerous, unpredictable, perhaps sociopathic even... Sometimes its easier to get people to do what you want them to if they are scared of what you might do to them.

To your friends and loved ones, you adopt neither of these farcical approaches, unless you really are a sociopath. To your friends and loved ones, you are honest.
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So basically you are admitting here that you are two(three)-faced.. and nobody actually knows who the real you is.... I'm guessing even you don't know who the real you is...
 
SlinkyMike said:
Cannot believe how many people are advocating this kind of behaviour.

A 14 year old boy was beaten with a dumbell(FFS!) by a 50 year old teacher, fracturing his skull and you lot are all: yea some kids need a smack to stay in line.

Are you all high?
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We are not condoning what he did.

But we are arguing the case that pricks like this kid should have been dealt with a long time ago.

If that had been done this wouldn't have happened.
 
general_koffi said:
... Some people shouldn't have kids.
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I nominate we start that with you. Thinking that giving a child a hiding is bad, but it's ok for a 13 year old to drink or smoke...
Thinking that manners and respect are grooming you for a poor life... dude you seriously have some things to work out.
 
general_koffi said:
Indeed. That is my intention.

Sometimes you want someone to believe you're a good, solid, dependable person. You might want a client to believe this, or an employer, or a judge. To these people, the intelligent person shows impeccable manners.

Sometimes, however, you want someone to believe that you're dangerous, unpredictable, perhaps sociopathic even... Sometimes its easier to get people to do what you want them to if they are scared of what you might do to them.

To your friends and loved ones, you adopt neither of these farcical approaches, unless you really are a sociopath. To your friends and loved ones, you are honest.
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I have to agree with the general, you think you going to get far in life if you don't be nice to people who will either get you a job or a customer who is a as s hole but you need his money to keep you a float. smacking your child can cause damage,I have never been smacked in my life and I am just fine.

I personally do not want kids. But you gotta give your kids some freedom in life. If you don't they will still do it behind your back no matter how many smacks you give him or her.
 
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general_koffi said:
That's hardly fair. I habitually walk into a room drinking, smoking, and swearing at something/someone under my breath. It's just how I roll.

I'd only be angry with the little **** if it were MY cigarettes/booze he were smoking. Otherwise, **** it, he can learn what a hangover feels like for himself. What's the worst he's gonna do? Fail a test? It's better to act like an idiot when you're a teenager - when you're an adult, you actually have responsibilities you can screw up.

ETA: Obviously I'd intervene if he became a raging alcoholic, but I'd also intervene if grandma become one, and I can assure you that I wouldn't hit her either.
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Sheezzz.. oke.

general_koffi said:
Indeed. That is my intention.

Sometimes you want someone to believe you're a good, solid, dependable person. You might want a client to believe this, or an employer, or a judge. To these people, the intelligent person shows impeccable manners.

Sometimes, however, you want someone to believe that you're dangerous, unpredictable, perhaps sociopathic even... Sometimes its easier to get people to do what you want them to if they are scared of what you might do to them.

To your friends and loved ones, you adopt neither of these farcical approaches, unless you really are a sociopath. To your friends and loved ones, you are honest.
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And you wonder why you were beaten by teachers that saw through the lies. I think they did not apply it enough.

Being oke with a drinking child does more damage than a cane could ever do.
 
general_koffi said:
Do you you guys get hard when you imagine yourselves beating children? I'm trying to understand the appeal here.

Anyone so much as looks at my kid in a way I don't like, I sure until he's begging for crumbs in the gutter. Just sayin'.
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If you do a proper job of raising your kid then it wouldn't be necessary for someone to "look at your child in a way (you) don't like".
 
Geez, koffi you are exactly the sort of parent that is actually the cause of the scenario in the OP. You raise worthless, rude little ****s that everyone wants to drop kick into next year then you scream bloody murder when someone does.
Perhaps the solution is, instead of bringing back corperal punishment, calling in the parents of the offending brat and giving them a good couple of snot klappe for raising and then unleashing their little monsters on the rest of society.
 
general_koffi said:
That's hardly fair. I habitually walk into a room drinking, smoking, and swearing at something/someone under my breath. It's just how I roll.

I'd only be angry with the little **** if it were MY cigarettes/booze he were smoking. Otherwise, **** it, he can learn what a hangover feels like for himself. What's the worst he's gonna do? Fail a test? It's better to act like an idiot when you're a teenager - when you're an adult, you actually have responsibilities you can screw up.

ETA: Obviously I'd intervene if he became a raging alcoholic, but I'd also intervene if grandma become one, and I can assure you that I wouldn't hit her either.
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I'm sorry, but it's idiot parents like you, who cannot set boundaries for there children, that are to blame for unruly students. Not the education system you want to blame. The education system is there to teach your children skills for work not how to behave in society, that's your job. Teach your kid the consequences of alcohol abuse and he/she wont drink but allow him/her to do it and you are making a alcoholic. Damn, you may be a lawyer dude, but you type the most ignorant posts. My kid ever walks into my home with a cigarette in his hand or a stagger in his walk, I'll knock the cr@p out of him, he swears at me he better not be in the same continent 3 seconds after.

Bottom line we are not talking about beating kids up, but when I was a teenager I wouldn't even think of talking smack to my parents, I'd have the crap slapped out of me. Where my parents abusive? don't make me laugh. I just was taught to respect them or feel the consequences. I back chatted a teacher, man, I knew I was going to get another hiding when I got home. Guess how many times I spoke badly to a teacher? The blame of unruly kids falls squarely with parents like you, that want to have them but don't want to teach them how to behave. Nothing to do with the education system.
 
Its not up to the teachers to fix and deal with the kids. That is the role of the parent. Children go to school to learn, not to be taught manners and what is acceptable behaviour.
 
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK...arvey_Cleared_Of_Attempting_To_Murder_A_Pupil

A teacher has been cleared of attempting to murder a pupil he attacked with a dumb-bell.

The jury at Nottingham Crown Court took less than two hours to clear father-of-two Peter Harvey.

The court heard how some pupils were planning to wind up the physics teacher so his reaction could be caught on camera and passed around students.

The 50-year-old finally flipped after a 14-year-old who was being disruptive in class told him to "f*** off".
He took the boy into a back room and slammed the weight into his head while shouting "die, die, die".
Mr Harvey's lawyer argued that the teacher was in such a state when he battered the boy, a known trouble-maker, he could not have intended to kill or seriously harm him.
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Excellent news.
 
Brilliant news...

Hopefully the little snot-nosed brats think twice before winding him up again...
 
Kids like this are a direct result of a society that listens to hippies when it comes to issues that actually matter.

GODDAM HIPPIES!!!!
 
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