iPad Mini 7.9-inch Apple tablet PC unveiled

Sl8er said:
Not only that, the few that do move from android to apple, quickly gets replaced by the other "few" (a-million-a-day) activations. There are bound to be some android tablets in there, I'm sure.
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What about the iOS -> Android Migrations.

Then there is also the likes, like me that don't do Migrations and just use both, soon all 3 as Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 is also starting to become available.
 
Jola said:
Another critical issue for a 7" tablet, IMO, is that it should have GPS, because people will use it to travel.

The Samsung 7" (AFAIK) and Nexus 7 have GPS in the wifi models, but the wifi iPad Mini does not.

My GF came short like this, did not realise that the iPad 3 wifi does not have GPS.

So, for all buyers out there, note that the iPad Mini wifi model DOES NOT HAVE GPS !

Edit : I also have an iPod Touch 32GB 4th Gen wifi that is useless for the same reason.
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Good post. I don't really mind the price of the mini itself. The better materials and superior store make it worth it, but i do have a problem with the need to pay an extra 25% to get LTE and the GPS. Over $400 for an 8 incher is quite a bit of cash. For that money i would want a retina display and the same/similar beefy cpu/gpu combo you find in the 10 inch ipad. That would make it quite the portable powerhouse.
 
Apple has for some unknown reason always omitted gps from the wifi only version and I dont get why.
 
AlphaJohn said:
What about the iOS -> Android Migrations.

Then there is also the likes, like me that don't do Migrations and just use both, soon all 3 as Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 is also starting to become available.
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Yup and that.
Personally I can't understand why people have to go either one way or the other. Up until this whole apple vs the world thing, I would've quite happily dabbled in all three (apple, android and WP8). It's just that apple's shena****ns is quickly closing that door for me. I might just end up with android and WP8 and who knows what else the future holds, which is a pity :erm:
 
Sl8er said:
Yup and that.
Personally I can't understand why people have to go either one way or the other. Up until this whole apple vs the world thing, I would've quite happily dabbled in all three (apple, android and WP8). It's just that apple's shena****ns is quickly closing that door for me. I might just end up with android and WP8 and who knows what else the future holds, which is a pity :erm:
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For me it's apps. Plain and simple.
 
Crowley said:
Proof please. My Google search turned up the exact opposite.
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I didnt see any meaningful statistics in your google search. Just anecdotes. Of course I didn't dig deep into the search.
Geeks talking about how to migrate. That in itself means nothing.

I am not going to spend too long looking for statistics but I do have a reasonable memory.
When it comes to Smartphones I remember a stat (was a year ago granted) that 81% of iOS users stayed in the ecosystem
Next was Android. But a greater percentage churned to iOS than iOS churned to Android.
And BB and M/S were poor

I looked for those stats and I didn't find the better article I read

I did find this one
http://bgr.com/2012/08/23/iphone-android-user-loyalty-survey/

Now I don't know how reliable the stats are. The stats I had previously were from a far more well known news service (but they are older. The 2 did more or less match though)

Android to iPhone Churn
17% of Android users plan to churn to iPhone at upgrade time
48% plan to stick with Android
Rest undecided

iPhone to Android Churn
77% plan to stick with iPhone
5% plan to switch to Android
Rest undecided

I don''t plan to spend time searching for Tablet stats except to say that iPad have been pretty dominant in the tablet space. This is reflected both is sales and in bandwidth consumption.

They do have a weakness and that is the lack of a tablet at a lower price point.
They don't do cheap. They maintain their margins

Will $329 be low enough? I dont know.
I was hoping for $299.

Many of the posts are emotive. 'They' wouldnt buy Apple therefore 'they' are right therefore Apple bad. 'They' are always irrelevant.
The stats that matter are Sales and Profit.
Of course if a company cuts margins to nothing they will sell.
Whether they will be used uis another story

Apple and Samsung are both very respectable behemoths. Samsung is a premium product and not cheap in itself.
Apple and Samsung share the mobile profit right now with very little left over for the others.
Amazon are a different argument because they sell the content and don't care about the device revenue.

The argument that praising Apple's profit (Samsungs is also good) is proof that people like getting gouged is flawed.
All companies want to make profit and very few are. They are not failing to make a profit because they feel charitable to their customers. They are failing because their products cannot command the price point.

If they don't make decent profit they are going to struggle to maintain product life cycles.
A typical trait of non-profit phones and tablets is that the manufacturers leave them high and dry with Software Updates.
 
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bwana said:
For me it's apps. Plain and simple.
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I get that, I truly due, but there's still nothing stopping you from getting something else. If you get the iphone 5, you'll be good for the next 3/4(?) years -if I understand you guys correctly, upgrades, etc. You then have that device, so when your upgrade comes along, why not look at other options? Try out the latest high end android? Try out the latest high end WP8 device? BB -if it's something that appeals to you? (I'm not saying you specifically, I'm more referring to the general apple "population".) Know what I mean?
Why not enjoy the best of both (3? 4?) worlds?

EDIT: Yes, I know, I need to also keep in mind that you may have done this already (different platforms). In which case, good for you for exploring all options and making the choice that suits you best. BUT, also keep in mind things change and you may just be surprised. (Yeah, I'm aware you have the N7 ;) )
 
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Sl8er said:
I get that, I truly due, but there's still nothing stopping you from getting something else. If you get the iphone 5, you'll be good for the next 3/4(?) years -if I understand you guys correctly, upgrades, etc. You then have that device, so when your upgrade comes along, why not look at other options? Try out the latest high end android? Try out the latest high end WP8 device? BB -if it's something that appeals to you? (I'm not saying you specifically, I'm more referring to the general apple "population".) Do you know what I mean?
Why not enjoy the best of both (3? 4?) worlds?
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Well, one of the reasons that could make that difficult, as bwana, said is that you don't have your apps with you. And if you want to reaquire them (Firstly, many are not available on Android, WP8 or FireOS), you have to spend another couple hundred dollars.
Which isn't the end of the world, but could be a stumbling block for some
 
Sl8er said:
I get that, I truly due, but there's still nothing stopping you from getting something else. If you get the iphone 5, you'll be good for the next 3/4(?) years -if I understand you guys correctly, upgrades, etc. You then have that device, so when your upgrade comes along, why not look at other options? Try out the latest high end android? Try out the latest high end WP8 device? BB -if it's something that appeals to you? (I'm not saying you specifically, I'm more referring to the general apple "population".) Know what I mean?
Why not enjoy the best of both (3? 4?) worlds?

EDIT: Yes, I know, I need to also keep in mind that you may have done this already (different platforms). In which case, good for you for exploring all options and making the choice that suits you best. BUT, also keep in mind things change and you may just be surprised. (Yeah, I'm aware you have the N7 ;) )
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He owns a Nexus 7.
 
HBee said:
You of course know that these surveys are always done 2 week before the revealing when the apple propaganda machine is in full swing. I bet if they run this survey now, it will show a whole other picture.
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Well, you're welcome to haul out any surveys that show the opposite...
 
HBee said:
You of course know that these surveys are always done 2 week before the revealing when the apple propaganda machine is in full swing. I bet if they run this survey now, it will show a whole other picture.
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Of course surveys vary with time
But 2 people have posted links to 2 different surveys that match.
The other older survey referred to was recounted from memory.
The one survey was very recent.

Its possible the balance has shifted a little in either direction and if you post a credible survey showing that then its great.

However a recent survey trumps your instinct!
 
bwana said:
Hardly, they're just responding to customer's wants
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Apple has never been one for responding to customers wants.

Should I do a few more quotes about how customers don't know what they want until Apple tells/shows them?
 
JStrike said:
Well, you're welcome to haul out any surveys that show the opposite...
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Survey's suck, period. Esp when one ask you what your plan is, all kinds of factors come to mind, like who was asked where and what demographic. Making blanket statements like that article without proper investigation and follow up research is worth less than the bandwidth used to read it.

Exibit A.

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Using above "survey" I can say that most people prefer Android Tablets to iOS and Windows RT
 
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