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phoneJunky

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And wifi where there is no cellular.

Wifi in Prieska? Even in Gauteng their isn't wifi in all the places where there is no data coverage. There is almost always radio coverage though.

But I don't listen to radio on my phone in anycase. Always forget to take earphones so I would have no antenna.

Radio Transmitter is a feature I would use though. Play from my phone to the car radio. I know there are some extentions you can buy for the iPhone for this though.
 

Maverick Jester

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It's unbalanced. There are good reasons they don't have some of those features.

Yes, but prospective buyers need to know that they do not exist. Regardless of the reasoning of the manufacturer, it's still something that is missing when compared to other devices in the same bracket.

Of course, if you're a reviewer who really loves those features, then you're going to feel like the iPhone is behind the competition for not offering them, and I suspect that's just what the case is with this reviewer.

From the review:

You don't have to be an Apple fan to appreciate the iOS experience. But even the most faithful of fans would have probably loved a more feature-rich hardware to enjoy it on. This is an Apple fan speaking by the way.


It's still improved a bit from the 5s, particularly in low-light fidelity. That has to be sensor-related. But yeah, I also wonder if they aren't saving the next sensor upgrade for the 6s. That would be quite an Appley thing to do (along with 2gb ram models).

But not as progressively as it should be improving. The sensor model is over two years old, and the improvements done to the newer model are equally small. I dunno how much control Apple has over the likes of Sony to control the optics coming out, but the likes of OmniVision are around and may be another option to consider. But that again eats into the digital camera market, of which Sony makes a lot of money from. So may be a while still.
 

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The sensor, for example, is the same one from the iPhone 5S, and largely similar to the one found on the 4.

I haven't researched into it, but I'm pretty sure that is incorrect. The sensor used in the 6 is a new sensor, that should be apparent by virtue of the on-sensor PDAF (which isn't present on the 5s).

Don't confuse the fact they happen to have the same pixel count with being the same sensor.
 

Maverick Jester

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I haven't researched into it, but I'm pretty sure that is incorrect. The sensor used in the 6 is a new sensor, that should be apparent by virtue of the on-sensor PDAF (which isn't present on the 5s).

Don't confuse the fact they happen to have the same pixel count with being the same sensor.

From Anandtech:

For the most part, it seems that the optical system is largely unchanged from the iPhone 5s to iPhone 6. The focal length and aperture are identical, and both have five plastic lenses. On the sensor side there are some obvious differences such as the addition of phase detection pixels. However, it’s otherwise difficult to say if anything else has changed in this area. There’s also a new ISP on the SoC, which serves to enable features like 240FPS slow motion video.

I should've been more clear, yes :)
 

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the year of the SD card...

Lol :D,Touche.

It's not an excuse for Apple to release a 16gb base level and then go to 64gb.
And that's why I have a gripe with the sd-card being absent,if its was 32gb base then I'm sure the sd card being absent would be a non issue but as it stands now the bigger screen of the 6 compared to previous iphones means its going to be better for watching videos and that means more memory needed.

It stood up to water immersion tests for 10seconds in one video I saw. They won't ever get a rating because they'd need to seal the ports up with a stupid flap like Samsung and Sony use. You can't waterproof a 3.5mm jack any other way.

You do know that the 3,5mm jacks on phones like z1,z2,z3,s5,s5mini etc dont have flaps covering them right?

In fact the s5 mini has taken it a step further so that even the usb port doesn't have a flap yet its fully waterproof.Lack of waterproofing on the iphone 6 was a huge let down for me because its nice to actually be able to wash your phone out with soap and water once in a while to get it sparkling clean and you don't have to worry about somebody spilling their drink on your phone when you put it on a table.

Lack of waterproofing on the note 4 is also disappointing to me.:crying:
 

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Lack of waterproofing on the iphone 6 was a huge let down for me because its nice to actually be able to wash your phone out with soap and water once in a while to get it sparkling clean and you don't have to worry about somebody spilling their drink on your phone when you put it on a table.

Like I said it does have a degree of waterproofedness - it was fully submerged for 10 seconds in a stress test video somewhere (I forget where) and it worked fine afterwards.
 

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Like I said it does have a degree of waterproofedness - it was fully submerged for 10 seconds in a stress test video somewhere (I forget where) and it worked fine afterwards.

Yeah dude that's not waterproof,that's riding your luck.

I took my S5 snorkelling in the ocean for an hour and it was subjected to depths of around 2,5m at certain points and it even took a few 4k videos in 1m deep water,I did this on several occasions and after that I got out of the ocean and made a couple calls with no problems,that's waterproof.:D

You know if you wash your S5 out for a couple minutes in freshwater it will be fine.
 

AstroTurf

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Yeah dude that's not waterproof,that's riding your luck.

I took my S5 snorkelling in the ocean for an hour and it was subjected to depths of around 2,5m at certain points and it even took a few 4k videos in 1m deep water,I did this on several occasions and after that I got out of the ocean and made a couple calls with no problems,that's waterproof.:D

You know if you wash your S5 out for a couple minutes in freshwater it will be fine.

LOL, I am to scared to try this but have been considering washing my S5 in the basin. :D
 

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Yeah dude that's not waterproof,that's riding your luck.

I took my S5 snorkelling in the ocean for an hour and it was subjected to depths of around 2,5m at certain points and it even took a few 4k videos in 1m deep water,I did this on several occasions and after that I got out of the ocean and made a couple calls with no problems,that's waterproof.:D

You know if you wash your S5 out for a couple minutes in freshwater it will be fine.

Show off!
 

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Yeah dude that's not waterproof,that's riding your luck.

I took my S5 snorkelling in the ocean for an hour and it was subjected to depths of around 2,5m at certain points and it even took a few 4k videos in 1m deep water,I did this on several occasions and after that I got out of the ocean and made a couple calls with no problems,that's waterproof.:D

You know if you wash your S5 out for a couple minutes in freshwater it will be fine.

Pics/videos or it never happened.
 

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How long ago was the S5 released? Is it even remotely fair to compare the iPhone 6 against it and the M8?

This test surely puts to bed any arguments bemoaning/mocking the "only" 1GB RAM of the Apple flagship?

S5 gets buried!

[video=youtube_share;nCln9_mgZJo]http://youtu.be/nCln9_mgZJo[/video]
 
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How long ago was the S5 released? Is it even remotely fair to compare the iPhone 6 against it and the M8?

This test surely puts to bed any arguments bemoaning/mocking the "only" 1GB RAM of the Apple flagship?

S5 gets buried!

Not that it needs it, but can you imagine if the iPhone did have 2gb RAM, it would be a beast of a phone.
 

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Not that it needs it, but can you imagine if the iPhone did have 2gb RAM, it would be a beast of a phone.

Agreed. The video above is mental. The difference is so huge, he actually fast-forwards through the wait for the S5. I always appreciated the benefit in aligning the OS with the hardware, but this really brought things into perspective. Would sincerely love to hear from the Android brigade, about whether or not this was a fair/accurate test - and if so, what it says?
 

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Agreed. The video above is mental. The difference is so huge, he actually fast-forwards through the wait for the S5. I always appreciated the benefit in aligning the OS with the hardware, but this really brought things into perspective. Would sincerely love to hear from the Android brigade, about whether or not this was a fair/accurate test - and if so, what it says?

The android brigade will do everything they can to discredit the iPhone. They will also mention Android L and say how Android L is going to "fix" the lag. Or they will say how TouchWiz is crap so just load another rom and so on and so forth. They will then bring out the spec card and say but the S5 has better specs etc meanwhile they forget that specs are irrelevant, real world performance is all that counts.

Personally, I couldn't be bothered with a phone that has an octa core CPU and 4gb of ram if it cannot even beat the iPhone 6.
 

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The android brigade will do everything they can to discredit the iPhone. They will also mention Android L and say how Android L is going to "fix" the lag. Or they will say how TouchWiz is crap so just load another rom and so on and so forth. They will then bring out the spec card and say but the S5 has better specs etc meanwhile they forget that specs are irrelevant, real world performance is all that counts.

Personally, I couldn't be bothered with a phone that has an octa core CPU and 4gb of ram if it cannot even beat the iPhone 6.

Personally i wouldnt bother with a low specced (albeit fast) and way over priced and non future proof phone. But hey thats me. Apple optimizes their phones why? To sell low specced phones at the highest prices and make a killing from the sheeple support. Getcha some vaseline.
 

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Personally i wouldnt bother with a low specced (albeit fast) and way over priced and non future proof phone. But hey thats me. Apple optimizes their phones why? To sell low specced phones at the highest prices and make a killing from the sheeple support. Getcha some vaseline.

Why sell an over specced phone if a lower specced phone can beat every other over specced phone? Apple optimize their software for the hardware so that they don't need to over spec their phones. As you can see from the video above the iPhone 6 kills both the S5 and OnePlus in terms of performance with their lower specced phone. The iPhone is just as future proof as all the other phones.
 

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You guys do realise that in under 6 months time there will be a wide variety of androids that beat the pants off the iPhone and you will still be stuck with only the 2 options right?
 

cerebus

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You guys do realise that in under 6 months time there will be a wide variety of androids that beat the pants off the iPhone and you will still be stuck with only the 2 options right?

Beat the pants off? It's unlikely. They'll be a bit faster.

Personally i wouldnt bother with a low specced (albeit fast) and way over priced and non future proof phone.
Huh? Nothing in that sentence makes sense. Specs are speed. If you really think quad > dual core and 2.5ghz > 1.4ghz you just don't understand CPUs. If there are further software optimisations that enable apps to load faster, well that's just pudding isn't it. If it's faster than anything else on the market, why would you imagine it's less future-proof?
 
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