iPhone 6

[SeRpEnT]

Beat the pants off? It's unlikely. They'll be a bit faster.


Huh? Nothing in that sentence makes sense. Specs are speed. If you really think quad > dual core and 2.5ghz > 1.4ghz you just don't understand CPUs. If there are further software optimisations that enable apps to load faster, well that's just pudding isn't it. If it's faster than anything else on the market, why would you imagine it's less future-proof?

Limited ram?

 

[DA-LION-619]

You're lucky it's out of warranty, and that you have tinker skills.

Is the 4s still in warranty?

 

[Maverick Jester]

You're lucky it's out of warranty, and that you have tinker skills.

Changing the goalposts again? LOL.

 

[cerebus]

Limited ram?

If it's faster now it's going to be faster in 2 years time. An S5 isn't suddenly going to leapfrog an iPhone in a year's time because it has 2gb of ram.

 

[Maverick Jester]

If it's faster now it's going to be faster in 2 years time. An S5 isn't suddenly going to leapfrog an iPhone in a year's time because it has 2gb of ram.

Unless Samsung gives up on Touchwiz, but going by that Android L preview, that doesn't seem to be an option with them

 

[SeRpEnT]

That's to be expected on a low clocked dual core CPU with 512MB RAM. The point is that it's running the latest software, and there are many benefits to this, especially if one's in the iOS system.

And it'll still be smoother in a few aspects than many more modern Android devices.

Could you please remind me which Android version the Galaxy S2 runs?

Thanks for making my point for me. The 4s was underspecced as well. Like all Iphones. They are great when they launch. Very fast. Big bragging rights.
But please beware the users when the phones are 2 or more years old and good old Apple rewards their loyal users by making their latest OS available on the older phones. Much of the new OS will either be disabled and the phones will be kuck slow.
Not quite future proof now hey? But that's what Apple wants. More sales of their new phones. More money. Good old Apple.
And the sheep flock together and follow suit. If not because their older phones are getting kuck slow on the new OS, then because most iSheep see each new Iphone as an extension of their ego. A status symbol. For the guys, its that 6 inch weener that you dont have. For the girls its the pair of D cups that they cannot afford.
LOL. I'm getting carried away. Just a little.

 

[phoneJunky]

Thanks for making my point for me. The 4s was underspecced as well. Like all Iphones. They are great when they launch. Very fast. Big bragging rights.
But please beware the users when the phones are 2 or more years old and good old Apple rewards their loyal users by making their latest OS available on the older phones. Much of the new OS will either be disabled and the phones will be kuck slow.
Not quite future proof now hey? But that's what Apple wants. More sales of their new phones. More money. Good old Apple.
And the sheep flock together and follow suit. If not because their older phones are getting kuck slow on the new OS, then because most iSheep see each new Iphone as an extension of their ego. A status symbol. For the guys, its that 6 inch weener that you dont have. For the girls its the pair of D cups that they cannot afford.
LOL. I'm getting carried away. Just a little.

If you don't flash a rom they will the androids are also not future proof. The iphone 4 compares to the original Galaxy S, which struggle with its kitkat custom roms (gingerbread the last official rom) as well. I have one and it does struggle a lot even with its 8/16 GB, 512 MB RAM, 2 GB ROM. So it also doesn't mean the higher spec'ed androids are future proof.

 

[cerebus]

Thanks for making my point for me. The 4s was underspecced as well. Like all Iphones. They are great when they launch. Very fast. Big bragging rights.

Specs and speed are the same thing. You can't compare a 4s running iOS8 to an S2 running CM11. One is an officially supported full-featured core update, and the other is a bootlegged, stripped down and heavily optimised piece of community software. Samsung turned their backs on the S2 long before Apple ever did with the 4s. I remember a while ago the Whitedoor iPhone 3G rom also did something similar to optimise iOS to add some longevity to the device, but it's not the same as the real software. I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Specs and speed are the same thing. You can't compare a 4s running iOS8 to an S2 running CM11. One is an officially supported full-featured core update, and the other is a bootlegged, stripped down and heavily optimised piece of community software.

Actually, you can. Android is an open source OS, which by nature allows and encourages community software.

But yeah, OEM abandonment is really terrible in the Android space.

 

[AstroTurf]

Actually, you can. Android is an open source OS, which by nature allows and encourages community software.

But yeah, OEM abandonment is really terrible in the Android space.

It would be if it was not for the open source nature of Android

 

[Maverick Jester]

It would be if it was not for the open source nature of Android

What do you mean by this...?

 

[Noob-Noob]

I've just plugged in the charger, battery hit 3%.

I got to 9 hours and 40 minutes use, 1 day and 11 hours standby.

Hi,
So just to get this right, you got 9Hours and 40minutes, so lets say i leave home at 7 in the morning, and i use the phone at work to check emails, browse internet, whatsapp etc, the time i get home at around 5 the phone will basically be dead?
That was exactly my problem with the Iphone 5, this is just simply not acceptable. i cant permanently carry a charger with me, what happens when i go camping or i'm in the situation where i don not have a charger. My Iphone 5 died countlessly when i really needed it. 9 Hours is really not good.
I love Apple, in general there is no doubt in my mind its the best phone available, but the agony of that battery.
Will love to hear how the 6+ preforms.

On a different note, my Lumia 1320 is on day 3, still has 30% battery left

 

[AstroTurf]

What do you mean by this...?

The fact that you can stick a different version of android on there with very little effort now days (and lose the bloat in the process).

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

Personally i wouldnt bother with a low specced (albeit fast) and way over priced and non future proof phone. But hey thats me. Apple optimizes their phones why? To sell low specced phones at the highest prices and make a killing from the sheeple support. Getcha some vaseline.

Or put more accurately : Samsung over spec their phones to win the spec war on paper. Even if the phone can't even use half of the potential of the hardware in real life. Also known as a "gimmick" or less politically correct "bull*****".

 

[Maverick Jester]

The fact that you can stick a different version of android on there with very little effort now days (and lose the bloat in the process).

Ah, you were referencing the second line of my statement. Yeah, totally

 

[SeRpEnT]

Or put more accurately : Samsung over spec their phones to win the spec war on paper. Even if the phone can't even use half of the potential of the hardware in real life. Also known as a "gimmick" or less politically correct "bull*****".

I partially agree with you. But guess what. That extra gig of ram might very well be useful in a year's time. Having something that is overspecced is never such a bad thing. Sure you might have more oomph than you need right now. But in the future if software comes along that takes advantage of that and if the future android versions require more juice in the tank then its defnitely a win in my book.

 

[cerebus]

Or put more accurately : Samsung over spec their phones to win the spec war on paper. Even if the phone can't even use half of the potential of the hardware in real life. Also known as a "gimmick" or less politically correct "bull*****".

That's not really accurate. I use 1.4gb ram on my G2 constantly without anything else open. 2gb+ is really needed for Android, and I even have doubts if 1gb will not prove to be a bottleneck on iOS a year or two from now. But the real mistake is seeing dual core 1.4ghz and assuming it's half as good as a quad core 2.5ghz. It's actually the opposite case - lower core speed and count for faster performance is a knockout especially for battery life.

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

I partially agree with you. But guess what. That extra gig of ram might very well be useful in a year's time. Having something that is overspecced is never such a bad thing. Sure you might have more oomph than you need right now. But in the future if software comes along that takes advantage of that and if the future android versions require more juice in the tank then its defnitely a win in my book.

The hardware isn't helping it run basic apps as well as the iphone 6. All that might help is improved software.

 

[Midnight_choir_drunk]

That's not really accurate. I use 1.4gb ram on my G2 constantly without anything else open. 2gb+ is really needed for Android, and I even have doubts if 1gb will not prove to be a bottleneck on iOS a year or two from now. But the real mistake is seeing dual core 1.4ghz and assuming it's half as good as a quad core 2.5ghz. It's actually the opposite case - lower core speed and count for faster performance is a knockout especially for battery life.

Correct.

 

[AstroTurf]

Ah, you were referencing the second line of my statement. Yeah, totally

Actually wonder how those tests would fare with CM on the phones.