ISP lets ADSL cap grow

What happens if you stop paying the R19pm, do you lose the "extra" or does your cap stay static?

You lose the extra bandwidth and go back to the normal amount and if you choose to re-do the growth option you have to start from the beginning again.

I'm thinking about it right now, but it's not a must have like the night rider option.

Edit: Couple this with my already night rider and suddenly that 90MB becomes 450MB
 
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You might as well buy a GB of Axxess prepaid for R70 then. Or am I missing something?

LOL, true true...errr except if you've been with them for 2 years!
They prob saw that everything is going to change next year and want to squeeeeeez out the last few pennies before then!
what a laugh!
 
Starting now (at 2MB per day)
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End of December:
Total extra bandwidth added over all months: ~675MB
Total cost for all months: ~R95
~R144/GB (ave)
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Monthly expense for December alone:
Extra bandwidth: ~255MB
Cost: R19
~R76/GB

so after Dec you start winning with cost of bandwidth

But with night rider in December: (excluding the R25, because I pay that now anyway)
Extra bandwidth: ~1275MB
Cost: R19
~R16/GB


With night rider it's R19 for +300MB extra a month (~R65/GB) to start and with in 4 month it's down to ~R16/GB ...
 
I think it's simply pathetic that we are in a position where we get all exited about 300mb extra per month. I mean, this really again just highlights the absolutely rediculous situation we find ourselves in (yes I'm feeling sorry for myself). Personally 300 megs extra in x months time (not sure how long it will take - not a client of theirs atm) just does not seem like something to get exited about.
 
I thought I would provide some points of clarity here.

1. Grow for life is available to both new and old subscribers. If you are a new subscriber (less than 6 months) your cap will grow by 1Mb per day until you have been a subscriber for more than 6months in which case it will increase by 2Mb per day and finally once you have been a subscriber for more than 2 years it will increase by 3Mb per day. If you have already been with us for more than 2 years your cap will immediately grow by 3Mb per day. The longer you have been with us the greater your immediate reward. This was done to reward those customers who took a chance on us in the beginning and have stuck with us through the years.


2. Grow is accumulative. So if you are an old standing customer of two years and started with a 1Gig cap, your cap will immediately grow by 3Mb per day and will be 1.09Gig after the first month 1.18 after the second month 1.27 after the third month and so on

3. Yes, it is true we anticipate bandwidth prices decreasing but there is nothing to say we will not reduce our prices further when this happens. If you look around, we are one of the few ISP's that can immediately capitlize on bandwidth price reductions.

4. Bandwidth prices have not yet decreased and a simple calculation will show that we start subsidizing you after the first few months. We are able to do so now because we have sufficient economy of scale discounts which we are passing back to our loyal customers. There are many other ISP's that may have achieved similar economy of scale discounts, the more relevant question is why are they not pushing their discount back to their customers?

5. We incentivise you to remain a customer by giving you more. Compare this to other ISP's that lock you in contractually, give you a modem that is network locked and hit you R95 for you topup and then further claim that their adsl is the cheapest in SA and then ask the question "Is it good for the customer?". Bottom line is if you have been with us for 2 years or more after 6months you will be paying R188 for 1.5Gigs which is by far cheaper than any other ADSL offering. Why you would not want to take advantage of that when their is no contractual lock-in is a mystery to me. What all the sceptics seem to be missing when presenting their calculations is that if you needed 1.1 Gig in the month you would have had had to topup by at least 0.5 gigs if you are on contract or by at least R69 if you are on prepaid- 3 months of grow at R19 is less than R69. I challenge someone to present me with a calculation where it is not in a customers best interest to subscribe to this product when they are on a one gig cap and do more than 1Gig a month at ANY time in the year.

6. Prior to the launch of our nightrider product these forums were loaded with sceptics saying "it will probably be throttled down to nothing", "it will probably cost R100+". When the product was launched at R25 and users were able to download 5 times as much AND where able to achieve line rate during nightrider time refuting all of the above assertions, then suddenly the sceptics disappeared. I believe something similar will happen with this product. When those users who have subscribed are sitting with a 2Gig cap in a years time and bandwidth prices are still the same they will be thankful that they took the chance on us and the sceptics will still be sceptics with their prepaid accounts and a 1 Gig cap. As this product clearly demonstrates those users who took a chance on us in the beginning and have been loyal to our brand have been rewarded more than those who didn't. A similar pattern will follow when bandwidth prices drop as well as when we have a private placement of our shares to our clientbase . This product was developed purely to thank those customers who took a chance on us in the good old days when our website was affectionately known as the "purple monster", I believe this product will achieve this goal.

Regards

Laurie


I think it's simply pathetic that we are in a position where we get all exited about 300mb extra per month. I mean, this really again just highlights the absolutely rediculous situation we find ourselves in (yes I'm feeling sorry for myself). Personally 300 megs extra in x months time (not sure how long it will take - not a client of theirs atm) just does not seem like something to get exited about.
 
I hate that people complain when a company thinks and comes up with a new innovative idea to try and help their customers. This is a very clever idea, and Cybersmart are trying to come up with new ways to give us customers better services. (And are succeeding)

Cybersmart is excellent. Their service is good. Their products are good.

I am a happy customer of Cybersmart.
 
I always respect a company who comes up with new products and ideas.

But I find it pathetic that we're actually talking about a few extra megabytes (thanks to Telkom!). When you start talking about gigabytes, I'll start paying attention.
 
I thought I would provide some points of clarity here.

This was done to reward those customers who took a chance on us in the beginning and have stuck with us through the years.

Thanks for that Laurie. Now let me calculate this ... You are 'rewarding' customers by charging them an extra R19 a month for as little as 30Mb extra a month? Nice.

30Mb is considered leakage...
 
Thanks for that Laurie. Now let me calculate this ... You are 'rewarding' customers by charging them an extra R19 a month for as little as 30Mb extra a month? Nice.

30Mb is considered leakage...

They aren't "rewarding" customers who've just signed up, so you should use 90MB/month imo.

You also realise this stacks right? It becomes worth it after the third month, but with bandwidth prices coming down in the future I don't know how much you'd get out of this.

Cybersmart are always coming up with interesting products. +1 respect.
 
Thanks for that Laurie. Now let me calculate this ... You are 'rewarding' customers by charging them an extra R19 a month for as little as 30Mb extra a month? Nice.

30Mb is considered leakage...

I don't usually do this, but I couldn't resist after seeing your "public profile"
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Now let me calculate ....
If you speak to someone in senior management and ask them to take 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 and perhaps 5 zeros off our international bill to Telkom, then maybe we could add the equivalent number of zeros onto the reward that you deem to be so insignificant.

Regards
Laurie
 
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I didn't know bonobo was a minion of the most evil enterprise in SA history, Telscum. OMW, bonobo_slr, your credibility has just gone down the drain. :)
Seriously, your company rips this country off.

Next time you criticise a competitor you should reveal that you have a vested
interest before doing so.
 
@Laurie and PeterCH, are you guys seriously that petty?
These days most of us will take a job if the pay is good, regardless of where its at. I hate telkom more than I hate Cybersmart and I would still work there(well, if i was looking for a job). Money is money. Also do you really think bonobo_slr has anything at all to do with their pricing schemes? NO! Of course he doesnt. Its like phoning tech support and shouting at them for bad prices or a broken router - It really isnt their fault.

laurie said:
which we are passing back to our loyal customers
@laurie..Firstly u sound like that annoying guy in the commercials on family guy(err, i think its family guy). And these "savings" you are making, is that by any chance also from ripping us, the customer, off? Im sure you remember me. Im the guy u charged for a 4mb line(why the hell some ISP's price increases per speed I dont know...) and still have my money..
Oh wait no you dont still have it! You passed it on to your loyal subscribers! You are such a good peson
 
@Laurie and PeterCH, are you guys seriously that petty?
These days most of us will take a job if the pay is good, regardless of where its at. I hate telkom more than I hate Cybersmart and I would still work there(well, if i was looking for a job). Money is money. Also do you really think bonobo_slr has anything at all to do with their pricing schemes? NO! Of course he doesnt. Its like phoning tech support and shouting at them for bad prices or a broken router - It really isnt their fault.

No, I don't blame bonobo for working for Telscum. In fact I hope I didn't
sound too harsh, any anger was directed not at him but at his employer.
I'm sorry if he feels offended personally. But he should have
made us aware of the fact that he is biased towards Telscom,
sort of the way reviewers and journalists or researchers have to
reveal if they say own shares in a particular company whose products
they are commenting on. Otherwise I don't have anything against the
man, hence I added that smiley :). I do hate his employer though.

Just to comment, I don't even use ADSL and am neither a Telscom (ADSL)
or a Cybermart customer.
 
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@PeterCH, cool. Hate them too, but its the only choice(yes, still. Neotel is a joke with their current speeds)
 
@Laurie and PeterCH, are you guys seriously that petty?
These days most of us will take a job if the pay is good, regardless of where its at. I hate telkom more than I hate Cybersmart and I would still work there(well, if i was looking for a job). Money is money. Also do you really think bonobo_slr has anything at all to do with their pricing schemes? NO! Of course he doesnt. Its like phoning tech support and shouting at them for bad prices or a broken router - It really isnt their fault.


@laurie..Firstly u sound like that annoying guy in the commercials on family guy(err, i think its family guy). And these "savings" you are making, is that by any chance also from ripping us, the customer, off? Im sure you remember me. Im the guy u charged for a 4mb line(why the hell some ISP's price increases per speed I dont know...) and still have my money..
Oh wait no you dont still have it! You passed it on to your loyal subscribers! You are such a good peson

If bonobo_slr includes his job details in his profile, then it is his own fault when people hit back with anti-Telkom comments.
 
If bonobo_slr includes his job details in his profile, then it is his own fault when people hit back with anti-Telkom comments.
if i own a bank and leave the safe open, and you come steal all the money...its STILL WRONG!
 
And these "savings" you are making, is that by any chance also from ripping us, the customer, off?

I worked it out that come end of this year, this option lets me download 1360MB (international) for R19, don't see how that can be a rip off? How much are you paying per GB?

Personally I'm going to take a chance on it. I seriously doubt telkom will drop prices until SEACOM comes online.
 
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