Load Shedding - the all in one thread

[medicnick83]

I can't even imagine how you guys cope!

Especially with Traffic Lights out... Here in cape town, if traffic lights are out, its like everyone's attitude changes too "just get across as fast as possible" when its supposed to be "4 way, first one... blah blah blah"

 

[Moederloos]

It's a 4 bedroom 2 bathroom house so perhaps there is a lot of hot water used in his household. Pool pump normally runs on a 12 hour cycle, perhaps he's trimmed that to 6...

Hmm.

I have 5 beds, 3 baths, a home office and a "library". And the usual dining room and lounge / kitchen.

And a 100Kl pool.

I still think he is talking rubbish.

I have a prepaid meter - yesterday morning I noted the usage - 398Kw left.
Today I have 360Kw left. 38Kw for the full day.
Thats R19. So R600 a month for power. If I save R500 with a geyser switch, I will be paying just R100 to run the above and my pool?
There is just no way.

 

[Robin Hood]

Geez...Its 06:25AM and the power-meter is nearly off the dashboard...Seems like either something packed-up or something major has happened at the PStations. If that guage shows correct, we can expect a lot of power-cuts today
http://www.poweralert.co.za/poweral...p&Session_ID=0ad16c38fe4478f84333096a5403f6ad

 

[Moederloos]

Stage 2 ALREADY robin_hood
When I got to the office at 5:30, it was Stage 1 ALREADY

 

[Robin Hood]

Stage 2 ALREADY robin_hood
When I got to the office at 5:30, it was Stage 1 ALREADY

...isnt that stage 3?

 

[Moederloos]

...isnt that stage 3?

To be honest - I have no idea how they suck these stages from their collective front paws.

http://www.eskom.co.za/live/loadshed.php

Shows the stage - which in no way matches up to the "dial". And none of the information matches up to what is happening in reality.
Yesterday it was in "red", the other site said "no load shedding", and yet 5km of traffic lights were off "due to load shedding".

So, yeah - they aint got a cooking clue what is going on.

 

[Robin Hood]

Thing is, what baffles me, is that apperently NO MORE elect is being exported to the neighbouring countries, so how come its STILL so high??...Unless there's "maintenance"

 

[ajax]

Stage 2 ALREADY robin_hood
When I got to the office at 5:30, it was Stage 1 ALREADY

What area are you in, Moederloos?

The Western Cape is on stage 1B, so only 1 cut for me today!
\keeps fingers crossed

 

[Moederloos]

What area are you in, Moederloos?

The Western Cape is on stage 1B, so only 1 cut for me today!
\keeps fingers crossed

Ajax - I am quoting from http://www.eskom.co.za/live/loadshed.php
(Later readers please do remember this will differ later)

They claim Stage 2.

I am on the West Rand - I expect our office to be off 4-5 times today, as that is par for the course.

 

[Robin Hood]

How do they work out the stages?? When i go the the "meter" site http://www.poweralert.co.za/poweral...p&Session_ID=0ad16c38fe4478f84333096a5403f6ad it was on the very last "brown" block ( block no 3, so i presume stage 3? )...now its on the 2nd brown block, first half...so is that now stage 2A?

 

[Moederloos]

How do they work out the stages?? When i go the the "meter" site http://www.poweralert.co.za/poweral...p&Session_ID=0ad16c38fe4478f84333096a5403f6ad it was on the very last "brown" block ( block no 3, so i presume stage 3? )...now its on the 2nd brown block, first half...so is that now stage 2A?

It does not work. I have yet to see any pattern.
If it is on the last brown block now, and its stage 2, what is stage 3?

 

[Robin Hood]

It does not work. I have yet to see any pattern.
If it is on the last brown block now, and its stage 2, what is stage 3?

...an explosion

 

[Moederloos]

When will the lies ever end???

"SA could review enegy deals with neighbours"
http://www.sabcnews.co.za/south_africa/general/0,2172,162920,00.html


I thought we HAD stopped exports?

 

[Moederloos]

Load shedded at 8:10 in Weltevreden Park West Rand.

 

[Datura]

Comment on article about guvumint admitting to there being a power crisis:

19 Minutes ago Bat wrote :
Hay, here is a novel idea; let us sort out the crime in SA. This will remove the need for alarm systems estimated at ~6MW of energy. The need for security lighting ~200MW. The need for electric fences ~3MW. The need for the manufacture of munitions for the domestic market ~1MW. Additional load on hospitals and clinics ~5MW. Additional manufacture of fuel for generators and support to emergency services ~2MW. That totals already approximately 1992MW per day (since not all loads exist all day). Practically enough to cover load shedding!

 

[stoke]

Crime vs Power .. NICE!

 

[Moederloos]

Crime vs Power .. NICE!

Consider the reverse. Because of load shedding none of those measures or services operate at 100%

So, deterrants are rendered less useful, and the services designed to "fix you up" after you get stabbed or worse, are not able to.

FU ANC, FU ESKOM*


* and I normally do not resort to comments like that that may be deleted. Perhaps the mods will take that into account and not delete this post?
Appreciated, if so.

 

[Ozymandias]

When will the lies ever end???

"SA could review enegy deals with neighbours"
http://www.sabcnews.co.za/south_africa/general/0,2172,162920,00.html


I thought we HAD stopped exports?

So did I because that was what they were telling us on Sunday.

Spokesperson Sipho Neke told Sapa on Sunday that normally about 95 percent was used domestically and the rest exported.

"When we don't have enough capacity for domestic use we don't sell electricity. There is no surplus so there are no exports," Neke said

SA's neighbours plunged into darkness

Unconfirmed reports that Eskom's chief executive officer, Jacob Maroga has included Botswana among the countries the South African power utility is to terminate supplies to, appear to have surprised the Botswana authorities.

Botswana: Power Cut Reports Surprise Country

It appears that we cannot cut our supplies to Mozambique because we actually import more from them than we export to them. There are no direct power lines from Cahora Bassa to Maputo so power is routed from the dam to South Africa and then re-imported to Maputo.

 

[Moederloos]

And just where are they gonna to get power from if our national grid collapses?
Who will come rushing to our aid? Zim? Swaziland?

Here is an idea - lets create a moerse battery.
Zimbabwe is a very negative place and Swaziland has so much AIDS that it positive.
Stick one pole in zim one in swaziland and that will supply a few 1000Mw

 

[Ozymandias]

Link

Fed up with Eishkom? Did you know that Although the vast majority of Eskom's 208,316 GWh of total sales went to SA consumers, 13,122 GWh was sold to Botswana (1,727 GWh), Mozambique (8,167 GWh), Namibia, (1,709 GWh) Zimbabwe (549 GWh), Lesotho (23 GWh) Swaziland (760 GWh) and Zambia (187 GWh). These sales to Eskom's "international customers" amount to 6.29% of its total electricity sales.

However, the truly startling information is contained on page 177 of the their annual report. A table detailing Eskom's net revenue per category of customer shows that in 2005 Eskom charged its international customers just 8.63c/kWh for their electricity - 5.72c/kWh less than the cost price of 14.35c/kWh.

Although industrial consumers in SA also paid a below-cost price of 13.97c/kWh, Eskom's residential customers in SA were charged an average price of 38.7c/kWh in 2005 - far higher than the rate applied to neighbouring countries.

Eskom's prices for the year to end-March 2006 were hardly different. In 2006 SA residential customers were charged 40.08c/kWh for electricity, while the likes of our Zimbabwean comrades paid just 9.83c/kWh.

Now that's proudly South African.