Local Loop Unbundling (LLU) - Is it going ahead?

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PaulB_ZA

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Hi there, was reading about rumors that Telkom will be forced to let other ISPs and telcos use their exchanges and equipment. Just wondering what is the latest on that? LLU is used here in NZ, and as far as I'm concerned it keeps our main ISP (Telecom) and smaller ISPs fair, and decently priced. This is something SA really needs, because it will make ADSL internet in South Africa more affordable, and Telkom will be forced to come up to speed with the rest of the world, and finally offer ADSL2+ services at reasonable prices.

Basically Telkom will learn to compete with other ISPs. The way Telkom's going, I can see if LLU did had to go ahead, they'd have no customers because all the other ISPs (Neotel etc) will have 24mb ADSL2+ while Telkom is left in the dark with it's maximum 10mb ADSL offering.

Another reason why I think SA needs it, is because Telkom is denying other ISPs the right to install upgraded equipment which is ADSL2+ ready in it's exchanges for the sake of profits, and remaining at the top.

What do you guys think?

Thanks
 
The main difference is that NZ's government is interested in progress, SA's government is interested in expensive cars/parties/private jets, progress is like going against the grain here.
 
PaulB_ZA said:
Hi there, was reading about rumors that Telkom will be forced to let other ISPs and telcos use their exchanges and equipment. Just wondering what is the latest on that? LLU is used here in NZ, and as far as I'm concerned it keeps our main ISP (Telecom) and smaller ISPs fair, and decently priced. This is something SA really needs, because it will make ADSL internet in South Africa more affordable, and Telkom will be forced to come up to speed with the rest of the world, and finally offer ADSL2+ services at reasonable prices.

Basically Telkom will learn to compete with other ISPs. The way Telkom's going, I can see if LLU did had to go ahead, they'd have no customers because all the other ISPs (Neotel etc) will have 24mb ADSL2+ while Telkom is left in the dark with it's maximum 10mb ADSL offering.

Another reason why I think SA needs it, is because Telkom is denying other ISPs the right to install upgraded equipment which is ADSL2+ ready in it's exchanges for the sake of profits, and remaining at the top.

What do you guys think?

Thanks
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You are a bit out of touch with the current situation in SA. Telkom are commissioning MSAN/ISAM units as we type here and are even busy with pilot FTTH installations.

ICASA (spits) have a November deadline for the next phase of LLU.

Question: can you get ADSL2+ services ANYWHERE in NZ?
 
MickeyD said:
You are a bit out of touch with the current situation in SA. Telkom are commissioning MSAN/ISAM units as we type here and are even busy with pilot FTTH installations.

ICASA (spits) have a November deadline for the next phase of LLU.
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So far people have only seen what they think are MSAN's or heard of them, for all practical purposes they are still pie in the sky for 99.9% of residential broadband users, and the majority of businesses as well.

Also, since when has it even been worth mentioning that ICASA (lulz) have set a deadline for anything ? It means less than nothing.
 
abandonallhope said:
Also, since when has it even been worth mentioning that ICASA (lulz) have set a deadline for anything ? It means less than nothing.
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Not that I do this often but, in their defence, they did meet their first LLU-based deadline and forced (agreed with?) Telkom to drop IPC costs by 30%.
 
MickeyD said:
You are a bit out of touch with the current situation in SA. Telkom are commissioning MSAN/ISAM units as we type here and are even busy with pilot FTTH installations.

ICASA (spits) have a November deadline for the next phase of LLU.

Question: can you get ADSL2+ services ANYWHERE in NZ?
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Ja I didn't say that Telkom wasn't investing in those products, but from what I've heard Telkom has a reputation for not competing freely with other Telcos, well it's good to see that SA will finally get those offerings, however I can just imagine the price that Telkom is going to want consumers to pay for FTTH, and ASDSL2+

For Rural areas, the Government has signed a deal with Vodafone which they will offer something called RBI (Rural Broadband Internet) using I thing 3G technology to get internet in rural areas. Only city I know of that hasn't fully deployed it, is in Christchuch as they were in the middle of rolling it citywide, and then the quakes started. So some areas have been Postponed till a later date, if not cancelled all together. So they still have the first generation DSLAM equipment like SA.

Hope that answers your question.
 
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