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Logik 47 vs Sinotec 47
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Any chance you remember the manufactured date on the screens you went through? Would be interesting to know when they started sticking crappy panels in the sets...
Sucks, I was seriously considering getting one of the 47s on the weekend, that is, until I read that post
Any chance you remember the manufactured date on the screens you went through? Would be interesting to know when they started sticking crappy panels in the sets...
Sucks, I was seriously considering getting one of the 47s on the weekend, that is, until I read that post
Both mine said "Manufactured July 2009" even have the lot nr : 180765 XHT 090445 , DO NOT BUY THESE MODELS!
I'm not sure when they started with the Chinacrap , but I have lost total confidence so I'll be going the plasma route ;P (I'm changing my mind like the weather)
Out of interest I am going to see if I will be able to find one of the Sino's from the older batch, I have seen July and August 2008 stickers on the back of a number of the models in various stores. I'm guessing that all their actual boxed stock by this stage will be the newer ones though :/ What plasma are you going for?
probably, yeah - I say we BOYCOTT SINOTEC for the time being, so they can go back to what it was (hopefully)
supafly1
Well-Known Member
what one has the better guarantee
Basically it's a chinese lucky packet when it comes to these panels now , I wouldn't touch them again , ever.
I'm looking at the Samsung 50" , either an earlier series 4 (PN50B430) they go for around R12.5k at the shops or the PN50B530/550 but that would be stretching my budget as best I could get was R15.5K for the 550. As far as I know , and correct me if I'm wrong here guys , they basically use the same panel the engine get's upgraded and more "features".
Oh and if you go plasma , make sure to use this break-in CD , keep the contrast and brightness below 50 for the first 100hrs just to be absolutely sure you have no burn in
A guarantee means nothing if you have to spend your time and effort sorting out issues the whole time. I'm sorry but I have enough stress in my life....
I must commend Game Centurion though , I have had no issues returning my LCD.
Basically it's a chinese lucky packet when it comes to these panels now , I wouldn't touch them again , ever.
I'm looking at the Samsung 50" , either an earlier series 4 (PN50B430) they go for around R12.5k at the shops or the PN50B530/550 but that would be stretching my budget as best I could get was R15.5K for the 550. As far as I know , and correct me if I'm wrong here guys , they basically use the same panel the engine get's upgraded and more "features".
Oh and if you go plasma , make sure to use this break-in CD , keep the contrast and brightness below 50 for the first 100hrs just to be absolutely sure you have no burn in
did you phone masons yet?
Yup , that's where I got the R15.5K quote from. Waiting for Hirschs to come back to me.
Heh , seems one of the senior managers @ Sinoslime wants to phone me and "discuss how we can resolve this". How do you resolve greed and bad workmanship/parts ???
And yes I am Penguin , you were right....
well a manager phoning you and asking you that IS quite good imo - show me where an LG or SONY manager will phone you....they won't - look at their hellopeter pages - they don't even care!
also, sinotec might have recently got bad it seems, yes - but they were far from greedy imo - if people didn't like it they returned it no problem (like you did) and if it broke after 2 years they were fixed no problem
hear what the man has to say at least, imo - might make you a good offer for all the trouble you have experienced or something, you never know....
also, sinotec might have recently got bad it seems, yes - but they were far from greedy imo - if people didn't like it they returned it no problem (like you did) and if it broke after 2 years they were fixed no problem
hear what the man has to say at least, imo - might make you a good offer for all the trouble you have experienced or something, you never know....
Samsung support is absolutely shocking... I have a thread on here about their home theatre....
The HDMI switching doesn't work properly, their senior technicians advise was to not use HDMI - this a few days after I bought the system purely for HDMI... took me a month (IIRC) to get them to refund me.
They also tried to say I was plugging in the system the wrong way around, it was PS3 > Receiver > TV - they said I need to run the optical cable from the PS3 to the TV, and then HDMI to the receiver for sound to work - asked the guy if he didn't perhaps know someone more senior who knew what he was talking about...
I see the system is now priced at R3900 - a year ago it was R7000. Damn nice sounding system too - but I did a search on google to see if they fixed the system, apparently the receivers all pack up after about 13-15 months - hence the cheap price.
The HDMI switching doesn't work properly, their senior technicians advise was to not use HDMI - this a few days after I bought the system purely for HDMI... took me a month (IIRC) to get them to refund me.
They also tried to say I was plugging in the system the wrong way around, it was PS3 > Receiver > TV - they said I need to run the optical cable from the PS3 to the TV, and then HDMI to the receiver for sound to work - asked the guy if he didn't perhaps know someone more senior who knew what he was talking about...
I see the system is now priced at R3900 - a year ago it was R7000. Damn nice sounding system too - but I did a search on google to see if they fixed the system, apparently the receivers all pack up after about 13-15 months - hence the cheap price.
HapticSimian
Honorary Master
Wish I could read Chinese - I'm not 100% convinced by the 'cheap Chinese panels' yarn... I wonder to what extent the brand-name tellies are fitted with these very same panels?
I got told the same when I took my set through to Sinoprima in Midrand for repairs - I'd just like a slightly more credible source for the info than an Afrikaans-speaking local representative.
I got told the same when I took my set through to Sinoprima in Midrand for repairs - I'd just like a slightly more credible source for the info than an Afrikaans-speaking local representative.
Positively Negative
Expert Member
Yeah , will wait for his call , maybe I'm over reacting but I seriously don't have the time or inclination for back and forth. Maybe this was the "kick in the butt" they needed to get their act together , we can only hope. Will keep you guys posted.
Well , got the call and I must say I am impressed so far. They will be delivering a new unit to my house and collecting the old unit tomorrow. Hopefully third time lucky. This does speak well for their customer service , and in the long run is that not what one wants , peace of mind?
HapticSimian
Honorary Master
From what I've been able to surmise from their Chinese domestic homepage, XOCECO is primarily an OEM manufacturer of LCD panels and whatnot - their Prima in-house brand (Sinotec here) is a bit of a sideline enterprise.
As far as scaling goes: When I was researching my purchase I came across an obscure service manual somewhere from the Middle-East (if I recall - lost with my old PC, unfortunately) stating that the scaler is a Faroudja product - then regarded as the best in the industry. According to Wiki, Faroudja was bought out in 2007. Whether XOCECO still use similar scalers I don't know.
If we spoke to the same chap at Sinoprima, I got the impression he was a bit disgruntled with increased workload accompanying the addition of a couple of other brands within the local context. I don't know if he has first-hand knowledge of the parent company's inner workings...
Oh, and Google Translate makes an absolute mash of Simplified Chinese!
As far as scaling goes: When I was researching my purchase I came across an obscure service manual somewhere from the Middle-East (if I recall - lost with my old PC, unfortunately) stating that the scaler is a Faroudja product - then regarded as the best in the industry. According to Wiki, Faroudja was bought out in 2007. Whether XOCECO still use similar scalers I don't know.
If we spoke to the same chap at Sinoprima, I got the impression he was a bit disgruntled with increased workload accompanying the addition of a couple of other brands within the local context. I don't know if he has first-hand knowledge of the parent company's inner workings...
Oh, and Google Translate makes an absolute mash of Simplified Chinese!
From what I've been able to surmise from their Chinese domestic homepage, XOCECO is primarily an OEM manufacturer of LCD panels and whatnot - their Prima in-house brand (Sinotec here) is a bit of a sideline enterprise.
As far as scaling goes: When I was researching my purchase I came across an obscure service manual somewhere from the Middle-East (if I recall - lost with my old PC, unfortunately) stating that the scaler is a Faroudja product - then regarded as the best in the industry. According to Wiki, Faroudja was bought out in 2007. Whether XOCECO still use similar scalers I don't know.
If we spoke to the same chap at Sinoprima, I got the impression he was a bit disgruntled with increased workload accompanying the addition of a couple of other brands within the local context. I don't know if he has first-hand knowledge of the parent company's inner workings...
Oh, and Google Translate makes an absolute mash of Simplified Chinese!
When chatting with him , it sounded like he was definitely a more senior manager as he went on about how they are only a small part of a huge company. He even invited me to go check out their manufacture process. So I guess from your post that you have confidence that my issue will be resolved? I for one surely hope so. I will definitely ask about the scaler.