MWEB Uncapped ADSL - Official Q & A

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enerdude said:
I would like to ask the Mweb guy if news (NNTP port 119) is shaped because my download is very slow (with mweb news sever and/or a overseas free news server)
I am on 384 uncapped and only get 10 kb/s (out of 40kb/s line speed) in peak times and maximum 15kb/s after hours.

I have tried with a CAPPED Mweb DSL account with the same results. However, if I switch to a telkom CAPPED ADSL account (using free overseas news sever) I get full line speed.

Seems it does not depend on which news server I use, but that it is rather shaped by protocol.

Anyone else experience this?
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MWeb is always shaped for NNTP and P2P (and a few sites). If there's spare capacity on the network, you may experience higher speeds, but if the network is under load they de-prioritise such traffic, sometimes quite severely. I have seen torrents run at close to my line speed, but there's no guarantees it will, or a timeframe it will be optimal in.

10 kB/s is quite low, though ...
 
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enerdude said:
I would like to ask the Mweb guy if news (NNTP port 119) is shaped because my download is very slow (with mweb news sever and/or a overseas free news server)
I am on 384 uncapped and only get 10 kb/s (out of 40kb/s line speed) in peak times and maximum 15kb/s after hours.

I have tried with a CAPPED Mweb DSL account with the same results. However, if I switch to a telkom CAPPED ADSL account (using free overseas news sever) I get full line speed.

Seems it does not depend on which news server I use, but that it is rather shaped by protocol?
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Hi enerdude,

Yes it is by protocol (amongst other things). Your performance seems in line with the shaped nature (protocol priority based) of our products, except for the "maximum 15kb/s after hours" bit.

Would you say its never reaches beyond 15KB/s at any time during the night e.g. 4am?


Regards,


MWB.
 
I thought http was never supposed to be throttled? Or is there a problem somewhere that I'm not aware of?

Two http downloads going - one of 10mb from google code and one 6mb from Tucows.com:

Tucows going at maximum 53k
Google code going at a whopping 6k (scratch that - 3k)

On a 4mb line with 4mb mweb.
 
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1948 B/s - 4.4 MB of 10.0 MB, 50 mins left

oh yeaaah!

This is the first bad speed I've had on mweb so far - everything else has been golden
 
Hi enerdude,

Yes it is by protocol (amongst other things). Your performance seems in line with the shaped nature (protocol priority based) of our products, except for the "maximum 15kb/s after hours" bit.

Would you say its never reaches beyond 15KB/s at any time during the night e.g. 4am?


Regards,


MWB.
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Thanks for the quick response. To tell you the truth, it is the 15kb/s after hours that I'm concerned about. 10kb/s is understandable during the day when businesses use the internet.

I have only tested it around 22:00 two nights in a row, will do some more testing and report back.

Regards,
 
AntiThesis said:
I thought http was never supposed to be throttled?
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Hi AntiThesis,

It isnt, but this does not mean http is completely uncontended, ADSL/broadband is still a shared service. Your speeds however should not be anywhere near that slow for http.

AntiThesis said:
Two http downloads going - one of 10mb from google code and one 6mb from Tucows.com:

Tucows going at maximum 53k
Google code going at a whopping 6k (scratch that - 3k)
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Hopefully a temporary anomoly between you and the servers/networkings in question (not necessarily on our network/uplinks). If you are getting persistant degraded http performance from certain sites please PM me some specifics and I can get the engineers to investigate.

MWB.
 
Reading about there speeds on the news servers is making me, again, consider sticking to Telkom's free local data. I was comfortable getting 35K on the SAIX server after hours. I don't care if it get's totally blocked during the day but i want decent speeds over night!

Do any of these uncapped offerings give decent after hours news server access? PM me if you know of one as this thread tends to move too quick, but it must be around this price.
 
Hi there! Am going for 384K uncapped.

Is it rare to get 100% line speed while downloading/uploading/browsing any time (websites that are not shaped)?
 
I am very disappointed with the speeds on Mweb uncapped.

Could be that 384k users are more heavily shaped than 4MB users? ie. It looks like 384k users being throttled/shaped to 25% of their line speed during the day.
 
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soulman said:
I am very disappointed with the speeds on Mweb uncapped.

I signed up for the 384k uncapped package.

My Astraweb downloads crawl at 8kb/s (whether night or day).

Even with a rapidshare premium account, the max speed is 4kb/s.

During browsing, I occasionaly get a 'server not found' error in firefox.

Obviously rapidshare and news servers are being heavily shaped on this 'uncapped' product. May be fine for browsing but not downloading.

Could be that 384k users are more heavily shaped than 4MB users? ie. It looks like 384k users being throttled/shaped to 25% of their line speed during the day.

Unusable IMO. :(
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I'm happy with my 384k uncapped. My steam downloads run at 35kb/s+ all day. Streaming audio works flawlessly.

I'm a bit bleak about YouTube - it always seems slower than it did on Afrihost and Telkom.

No users are throttled at all during the day, news and rapidshare just get very low priority.
 
Yeah while I know my P2P may be shaped, I downloaded a few clips from Fileshack last night. All averaged between 390 - 430kB/s.
Youtube started a little sluggishly for me, but picked up fairly quickly after my first clip. At 360p there it was buffering far quicker than I was watching...
 
Valerion said:
Certain websites (like Rapidshare) gets treated as P2P/Bulk download traffic, giving them the same priority as BitTorrent, NNTP, etc.
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Which becomes unfair when you need RapidS for serious use, e.g. they host many files which are not warez etc.
 
PeterCH said:
Which becomes unfair when you need RapidS for serious use, e.g. they host many files which are not warez etc.
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Warez is irrelevant here. RS users download large files (typically), or a large amount of small files, and this usage relegates it to the same priority as other bulk traffic. It's about volume more than anything else.
 
Valerion said:
Certain websites (like Rapidshare) gets treated as P2P/Bulk download traffic, giving them the same priority as BitTorrent, NNTP, etc.
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I see. My understanding was that "website" in the OP = HTTP = always unshaped.
 
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