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ten bottles of heineken said:
is buying music/movies/games legally a dumb answer?
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Your argument is void , as Torrents dont have to be Illegal. I use torrents for a LOT of my game updates / addons / Extra releases / Or just for Totally new games I want to try. And You'd be suprised how many free games there are out there that has an Initial Install size of around 2Gb and then another gig or so of updates.

And , have you ever heard of buying music/movies/games legally online? Welcome to the World of PS3 and the like.
 
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**Notice from MWEB** Last night we switched part of our infrastructure over to a next generation fibre optic network. This will allow us to increase our capacities. We'll also see big improvements in speeds, especially for those who are on the shaped package. - FTW on FB
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This product has yet to disappoint me, as the IS based ISP's seem to be experiencing serious issues with capacity. No nasty e-mail's or deceitful conduct here, yet.
 
saalocin said:
I get 20kb/s P2P download during the day and about 100kb/s spiking after office hours. USENET servers dont. They use the argument that they shape P2P download to prevent Ilegal downloads. OMW... WoW and LoL (games) uses it to update. Anime and Linux (ISO and Apps) are totaly legal and uses P2P downloads. And afrihost uses the same argument.
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And Afrihost uses the same argument? Nowhere in any posts on MyBroadband or on their website have I seen Afrihost claiming that they shape P2P to prevent illegal downloads? Maybe you could provide a link to this assumption?
I am currently using Afrihost uncapped and I'm very happy, I downloaded just over 45GB's of data using only P2P in the last 10 days of this month before I noticed any throttling or shaping. I averaged about 300kb/s for the entire 45GB's excluding peak hours where speed in general was lower not just P2P.
 
Have the free uncapped account. It was downloading fast for the past hour 48kB/s to 51kB/s, but now it seems like MWEB caught on, it's doing 7kB/s to 12kB/s. I don't know how I'm getting 51kB/s if I'm using a 384kb/s line... unless Firefox is reporting the speeds wrong.
 
Does any one else experience jumps in speed on the Mweb 512 trial account. Was downloading something via HTTP and managed to get 480KB/s for almost 30min and then dropped down again to 58/59KB/s

EDIT: and as i posted this shot up again to 440KB/s
 
MDE said:
Does any one else experience jumps in speed on the Mweb 512 trial account. Was downloading something via HTTP and managed to get 480KB/s for almost 30min and then dropped down again to 58/59KB/s

EDIT: and as i posted this shot up again to 440KB/s
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I also appear to have some stability issues this morning. Perhaps its related to the upgrade that happened last night. Will post again this evening if I experience any different.
 
hambone said:
I also appear to have some stability issues this morning. Perhaps its related to the upgrade that happened last night. Will post again this evening if I experience any different.
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I am having 'spikes' too... jumps to 400KB/s, then drops to under 100KB/s, it's up and down.
 
My MWEB uncapped so far has been awesome, Perfectly acceptable speeds during the day, browsing is excellent, youtube is excellent . News servers go extremely well after hours (Albeit erratic times for after hours) and I'm sure everything will improve as time passes and people have less to download (proven).
 
Natedogg said:
My MWEB uncapped so far has been awesome, Perfectly acceptable speeds during the day, browsing is excellent, youtube is excellent . News servers go extremely well after hours (Albeit erratic times for after hours) and I'm sure everything will improve as time passes and people have less to download (proven).
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MWEB need to fix the 'after hours' story... right now, they're doing exactly what Afrihost did, they being very 'funny' with the T&C's.
Ya they can shape, but open at a certain time, one day it's 9pm, next it's 11, next it's 1am, etc etc etc.

After hours to everyone else is 8pm - 8am
 
gdiza said:
MWEB need to fix the 'after hours' story... right now, they're doing exactly what Afrihost did, they being very 'funny' with the T&C's.
Ya they can shape, but open at a certain time, one day it's 9pm, next it's 11, next it's 1am, etc etc etc.

After hours to everyone else is 8pm - 8am
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I think it's been 11pm - 7am all along? I don't think the pipes were ever FULLY OPEN before 11pm, this is just from my experience using the 4096 Uncapped account.
 
My experience is there is no 'set' time for 'opening the pipes' but I do know they 'shut them off' at 8am EXACTLY - every single day like clock work.
When they open it - that is like a lottery.
 
gdiza said:
MWEB need to fix the 'after hours' story... right now, they're doing exactly what Afrihost did, they being very 'funny' with the T&C's.
Ya they can shape, but open at a certain time, one day it's 9pm, next it's 11, next it's 1am, etc etc etc.

After hours to everyone else is 8pm - 8am
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Hi gdiza,

The MWEB consumer (Connect) Uncapped ADSL packages are subject to priority based shaping which is dependant on network (priority traffic) load. Thus there is no specific time frame, as excess capacity on the network becomes avalaible it is released for use by non-priority traffic (e.g. torrents, news, rapidshare etc.).

Hope this explains it.

MWB.
 
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Hi gdiza,

The MWEB consumer (Connect) Uncapped ADSL packages are subject to priority based shaping which is dependant on network (priority traffic) load. Thus there is no specific time frame, as excess capacity on the network becomes avalaible it is released for use by non-priority traffic (e.g. torrents, news, rapidshare etc.).

Hope this explains it.

MWB.
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But then the question is, how do we know that at eg 21:00 or 22:00 priority traffic is high. What I mean by that is it's easy for an ISP to change the times dependant on how it suits them and then "score" because we can't download alot if shaping is after 8pm eg if half the days out of a month we only get full line speed from 8pm - 8am, then at the end the ISP "scores".

This would seem to be a smart move from the ISP's side (and makes sense if I were the ISP)

I think the problem just is that we don't know when we can download at full speed and when not. It's frustrating waiting at 8pm in thinking the speed will pick up, and then it doesn't... There is no problem in shaping, and many would agree we knew this from the start, but a more "structured" shaping system would be preferable. (where we know exactly when there's shaping)

*still a happy MWEB customer btw :)
 
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graytg said:
But then the question is, how do we know that at eg 21:00 or 22:00 priority traffic is high. What I mean by that is it's easy for an ISP to change the times dependant on how it suits them and then "score" because we can't download alot if shaping is after 8pm eg if half the days out of a month we only get full line speed from 8pm - 8am, then at the end the ISP "scores".

This would seem to be a smart move from the ISP's side (and makes sense if I were the ISP)
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If priority traffic is high, the network is under strain anyway, because otherwise there would be free capacity for non-priority traffic. And if the network is saturated, or close to, then I can't see how an ISP can "score". They provide a certain size pipe. If everyone uses their links, the pipe is too small and no-one gets all the data they want (shaping). If only some people use their pipes, then the main one is underutilized, and you get everything you want (non-priority traffic). So the time you get full unshaped bandwidth depends on how much the others use their pipes.

Think of it like water. If everyone opens their taps, no-one will have water pressure worth anything. The main pipes simply can't cope with it. So MWeb have priority pipes (drinking water) and non-priority (swimming pools). If they can adequately provide drinking water, then they allocate some to swimming pools. If more people open taps, the swimming pool water gets de-prioritized. How do you know how many taps are open for drinking water? You will have to trust your City Council with this, or MWeb in their case, to properly mange the bandwidth.
 
Valerion said:
If priority traffic is high, the network is under strain anyway, because otherwise there would be free capacity for non-priority traffic. And if the network is saturated, or close to, then I can't see how an ISP can "score". They provide a certain size pipe. If everyone uses their links, the pipe is too small and no-one gets all the data they want (shaping). If only some people use their pipes, then the main one is underutilized, and you get everything you want (non-priority traffic). So the time you get full unshaped bandwidth depends on how much the others use their pipes.

Think of it like water. If everyone opens their taps, no-one will have water pressure worth anything. The main pipes simply can't cope with it. So MWeb have priority pipes (drinking water) and non-priority (swimming pools). If they can adequately provide drinking water, then they allocate some to swimming pools. If more people open taps, the swimming pool water gets de-prioritized.
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You're missing my point. I merely stated that who is to say that the network is under strain at that time. And a company can "score" by regulating the shaping after 8pm (where there normally would be no shaping). Compare total data used from a user getting unshaped traffic on weekends and from 8pm - 8am weekdays, consistently to a user that gets unshaped weekends but gets fluctuating shaping hours weekdays - and that is how one "scores".
 
graytg said:
You're missing my point. I merely stated that who is to say that the network is under strain at that time. And a company can "score" by regulating the shaping after 8pm (where there normally would be no shaping). Compare total data used from a user getting unshaped traffic on weekends and from 8pm - 8am weekdays, consistently to a user that gets unshaped weekends but gets fluctuating shaping hours weekdays - and that is how one "scores".
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What does MWeb have to gain by that? They don't pay per GB. They pay for a certain amount of bandwidth. This cost is fixed, no matter if it gets used or lies idle. You pay Telkom for DSL rental, whether you switch your modem on or not doesn't matter to them. Therefore it's more cost-effective for them to rather run their lines at close to full capacity 24x7. If there were paying by the GB, then yes, it would be profitable for them.

It may be possible to have under-provisioned your available bandwidth, but that's where contention ratios come into the planning.
 
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