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4mb uncapped Mweb - very slow/almost not working international. Web pages almost load, but they stall somewhere. MyBB is fast as are local sites.
 
Are any MWeb users (particulary in CT) having problems connecting to the website aviation.weathersa.co.za? The routing goes via London, then ends in an infinite loop. Been like this since 8am this morning.

Code:
Tracing route to aviation.weathersa.co.za [196.15.254.131]

   1     1 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
   2     6 ms     6 ms     7 ms  41-132-48-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.132.48.1]
   3     9 ms     8 ms     9 ms  Te1-1-0.502.cpt-ipc-1.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.166]
   4     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms  Vlan92.cpt-hscore-1.mweb.co.za [196.28.179.11]
   5    10 ms    11 ms    10 ms  TenGigE0-2-0-0.11.cpt-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.97]
   6   160 ms   160 ms   161 ms  pos0-0-3-0.lon-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.164.2]
   7   160 ms   161 ms   161 ms  149.6.98.5
   8   161 ms   161 ms   161 ms  te7-2.ccr01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.36.165]
   9   160 ms   161 ms   161 ms  te1-2.mpd01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.3.225]
  10   161 ms   161 ms   161 ms  149.6.2.194
  11   357 ms   350 ms   351 ms  196.43.39.146
  12   355 ms   356 ms   356 ms  196.43.11.234
  13   391 ms   388 ms   411 ms  196.43.39.146
  14   380 ms   379 ms   378 ms  196.43.11.234
 
I am in Jhb and get the same result for aviation.weathersa.co.za.

Edit: I get the same result from my IS fibre connection at work, so the problem is not limited to MWEB.
 
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I am in Jhb and get the same result for aviation.weathersa.co.za.

Edit: I get the same result from my IS fibre connection at work, so the problem is not limited to MWEB.

Thanks for the info! They obviously have some configuration problem. (Alternatively, they have been threatening to pull the plug on the old SAWS server and this is D-day...)
 
Right, yes, rustic yeah?!

Where's my internetz? Yes? Sammich time.

In CT, my internetz also a bit slow.
 
Are any MWeb users (particulary in CT) having problems connecting to the website aviation.weathersa.co.za? The routing goes via London, then ends in an infinite loop. Been like this since 8am this morning.

Code:
Tracing route to aviation.weathersa.co.za [196.15.254.131]

   1     1 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
   2     6 ms     6 ms     7 ms  41-132-48-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.132.48.1]
   3     9 ms     8 ms     9 ms  Te1-1-0.502.cpt-ipc-1.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.166]
   4     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms  Vlan92.cpt-hscore-1.mweb.co.za [196.28.179.11]
   5    10 ms    11 ms    10 ms  TenGigE0-2-0-0.11.cpt-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.97]
   6   160 ms   160 ms   161 ms  pos0-0-3-0.lon-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.164.2]
   7   160 ms   161 ms   161 ms  149.6.98.5
   8   161 ms   161 ms   161 ms  te7-2.ccr01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.36.165]
   9   160 ms   161 ms   161 ms  te1-2.mpd01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.3.225]
  10   161 ms   161 ms   161 ms  149.6.2.194
  11   357 ms   350 ms   351 ms  196.43.39.146
  12   355 ms   356 ms   356 ms  196.43.11.234
  13   391 ms   388 ms   411 ms  196.43.39.146
  14   380 ms   379 ms   378 ms  196.43.11.234

I am in Durbs, and got the same loped result. Something not good there.
 
I am in Durbs, and got the same loped result. Something not good there.

Thanks for the update. This is not mission critical (for me anyway), and I'm sure it will be sorted out.

Edit: The issue was resolved almost at the same time as this post was made. Routing is 'normal' now...

While I'm on the subject, some of the tracerts going via London are pretty slow (MWeb to Telkom and back).

Code:
Tracing route to south-african-weather-services-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.5.222]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

   1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
   2     6 ms     7 ms     7 ms  41-132-48-1.dsl.mweb.co.za [41.132.48.1]
   3     9 ms     8 ms     9 ms  Te1-1-0.511.cpt-ipc-1.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.202]
   4     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  Vlan92.cpt-hscore-1.mweb.co.za [196.28.179.11]
   5    12 ms     9 ms    10 ms  TenGigE0-2-0-0.11.cpt-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.28.178.97]
   6   160 ms   160 ms   160 ms  pos0-0-3-0.lon-up-1.mweb.co.za [196.22.164.2]
   7   294 ms   216 ms   224 ms  149.6.98.5
   8   161 ms   289 ms   252 ms  te7-2.ccr01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.36.165]
   9   161 ms   161 ms   161 ms  te1-2.mpd01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.3.225]
  10   160 ms   161 ms   161 ms  149.6.2.194
  11   249 ms   250 ms   250 ms  196.43.18.201
  12   250 ms   250 ms   250 ms  ash-ip-dir-equinix-ge-1-0-2.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.166]
  13   251 ms   250 ms   249 ms  ash-ip-dir-equinix.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.9.245]
  14   408 ms   407 ms   410 ms  196.43.18.133
  15   424 ms   424 ms   423 ms  196.43.39.150
  16   686 ms   693 ms   640 ms  south-african-weather-services-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.5.222]

Trace complete.
 
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port recreate helped
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jitter is back to normal.
 
I'm done with MWEB! After a month of dealing with mweb ops nothing has changed... Constant blank page loads, constant timeouts, pathetic speeds. I've had telkom recreate my port nearly 10 times by now, i've tried 3 routers. I've had it. I'm cancelling monday morning. All I got told by mweb ops is that my attenuation is really high, its always been high and I've never had any problems before the start of this year. You know what I just think my account is just shaped to hell and back, which is weird since I'm not a super heavy downloader, my usage is around 70GB a month.

I'm on a capped afrihost account now and I havent had a single damn issue the whole time i've been on it, I'm torrenting and browsing at the same time and its faster than jsut browsing alone with the mweb account. My torrent speeds are 300+ whereas i couldnt even get 100 with mweb. Streaming youtube vids actually works and wow I can actually log into steam and download at full speed...

When I first signed up MWEB was great, its was perfect for what I needed too bad like everything else in SA, its gone to ****. I'm done...
 
I'm done with MWEB! After a month of dealing with mweb ops nothing has changed... Constant blank page loads, constant timeouts, pathetic speeds. I've had telkom recreate my port nearly 10 times by now, i've tried 3 routers. I've had it. I'm cancelling monday morning. All I got told by mweb ops is that my attenuation is really high, its always been high and I've never had any problems before the start of this year. You know what I just think my account is just shaped to hell and back, which is weird since I'm not a super heavy downloader, my usage is around 70GB a month.

I'm on a capped afrihost account now and I havent had a single damn issue the whole time i've been on it, I'm torrenting and browsing at the same time and its faster than jsut browsing alone with the mweb account. My torrent speeds are 300+ whereas i couldnt even get 100 with mweb. Streaming youtube vids actually works and wow I can actually log into steam and download at full speed...

When I first signed up MWEB was great, its was perfect for what I needed too bad like everything else in SA, its gone to ****. I'm done...

Hi Coldon

I can assure you that MWEB do not shaped individual customers, shaping changes at different times of the day and is dynamic based on the demand on the network.

Please allow me to arrange for our specialist to contact and assist you, it might be possible that we have overlooked something. We care about our customers and would not want to loose you.

Pleas confirm if I can go ahead and schedule the call for tomorrow.

Kind regards
MWEB Operations
 
AKA if u don't like it tsek.
Hi Coldon

I can assure you that MWEB do not shaped individual customers, shaping changes at different times of the day and is dynamic based on the demand on the network.

Please allow me to arrange for our specialist to contact and assist you, it might be possible that we have overlooked something. We care about our customers and would not want to loose you.

Pleas confirm if I can go ahead and schedule the call for tomorrow.

Kind regards
MWEB Operations
 
Morning 7th day adventist church, are you only encoutnering speed problems when streaming video? Also please PM me your MWEB account details.

Right well I am not experiencing problems with streaming video, only audio. Like I said, I can view HD clips on youtube without issue, but trying to download an MP3 file from itunes or even just trying to listen to sample songs ends up with the player having to rebuffer every 2 seconds. Downloading a 10MB mp3 takes 30-40 minutes. Something is very clearly limiting my connection speed to itunes. Please have your technical team look into this matter.
 
For the past couple days I've been getting packet loss. My initial suspicion was that it was Telkom, so I phoned them up and got them to check everything out. I was guessing line damage or congestion/damage at the exchange. They replaced a few things, but my line and exchange is in excellent condition (a rare situation indeed). I'm also only one of two 4mb users at my exchange, so its not a congestion problem.

Its an on and off problem, some nights its fine, some nights it rears it's ugly head, but it always starts 8pm+ and stops at about 5am-9am. When it does rear its head, anything latency sensitive craps out, huge 10-15 second spikes, then continues normally, then spikes out of control agian.

Eg.

ping www.mweb.co.za -t

Pinging www.mweb.co.za [196.2.63.110] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Request timed out.
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Request timed out.
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121

Ping statistics for 196.2.63.110:
Packets: Sent = 17, Received = 15, Lost = 2 (11% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 11ms, Maximum = 16ms, Average = 12ms

I'm trying to activate an Afrihost 1GB prepaid account to test on there to see if I can replicate the problem, they taking a while though with their whole ID verification process. Irritating how they only start this process after you've paid, anyway.

Obviously, this could still very well be on Telkom's end, but I'm starting to suspect it might, just might be something going on with Mweb. I'm in Cape Town, Bellville, Ridgeworth.

Edit: My line attenuation and noise margin is also good. 30db and 21db.

Edit2: Just got an Axxess account activated, stopped my router from dialing out and dialed the connection out from my machine. Still packet loss. In otherwords, *uck you Telkom. Guess I need to start harrassing the hell out of them again, this time with more rage.
 
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How do you do that? *edit* I mean the port recreate.

phone telkom and ask them for a port recreate for the telephone line you are using with your internet.it usually solves problems relating to speed,jitter and packet loss on your line.
 
For the past couple days I've been getting packet loss. My initial suspicion was that it was Telkom, so I phoned them up and got them to check everything out. I was guessing line damage or congestion/damage at the exchange. They replaced a few things, but my line and exchange is in excellent condition (a rare situation indeed). I'm also only one of two 4mb users at my exchange, so its not a congestion problem.

Its an on and off problem, some nights its fine, some nights it rears it's ugly head, but it always starts 8pm+ and stops at about 5am-9am. When it does rear its head, anything latency sensitive craps out, huge 10-15 second spikes, then continues normally, then spikes out of control agian.

Eg.

ping www.mweb.co.za -t

Pinging www.mweb.co.za [196.2.63.110] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Request timed out.
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=121
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121
Request timed out.
Reply from 196.2.63.110: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=121

Ping statistics for 196.2.63.110:
Packets: Sent = 17, Received = 15, Lost = 2 (11% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 11ms, Maximum = 16ms, Average = 12ms

I'm trying to activate an Afrihost 1GB prepaid account to test on there to see if I can replicate the problem, they taking a while though with their whole ID verification process. Irritating how they only start this process after you've paid, anyway.

Obviously, this could still very well be on Telkom's end, but I'm starting to suspect it might, just might be something going on with Mweb. I'm in Cape Town, Bellville, Ridgeworth.

Edit: My line attenuation and noise margin is also good. 30db and 21db.

Edit2: Just got an Axxess account activated, stopped my router from dialing out and dialed the connection out from my machine. Still packet loss. In otherwords, *uck you Telkom. Guess I need to start harrassing the hell out of them again, this time with more rage.

install net limiter and start it as soon as you get the packet loss.check which app's are connecting to the internet.

Do you also get packet loss on other Pc's on the network or only on your current one.


it could be that some scheduled program starts at some point that's using the internet (like utorrent or P2P programs)
 
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