MWEB Uncapped Subscribers Feedback

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Confirmed. I'm over MWEB's DNS. I was moaning about constant timeouts and laggy page responses the other day. Changed the DNS to googles 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 on one of my machines and they problems have all gone. That site loads on the google machine, but not on the MWEB machines. Good luck :)

How do you go about changing the DNS setting on router. I'm tired of having to constantly reboot my router due to the same problem?
 
My astraweb news server on 1mb line is going at 30kb/s. Not as good as it can, but sounds like it is better than most on here.
 
Well my Newserver using grabit and some "optimizations" got me now 300+ KB/s. It slowed down to 100+ a half-hour ago but restored itself again. I am happy!
 
How do you go about changing the DNS setting on router. I'm tired of having to constantly reboot my router due to the same problem?

in the router somewhere under DNS settings you change the option from "Auto from ISP" to "Use these addresses" the type in a primary DNS as 8.8.8.8 and secondary to 8.8.4.4.

I use these as I used an program called "Namebench" and it determined the fastest local DNS servers for me. Google was to slow. These are the recommended DNS servers.

NameBench tests

Recommended configuration (fastest + nearest)
Primary Server
196.207.36.251
Vodacom psi ZA
Secondary Server
196.28.75.200
SYS-196.28.75.200
Tertiary Server
196.43.53.190
SAIX Durban ZA

A backup DNS server for this system
Replica of SAIX Pretoria ZA-2 [196.43.50.190]

196.207.36.251 Vodacom psi ZA dnscache1-psi.3g.vodacom.co.za 196.72 22.9% 24.6

In my Netgear DG834GT with custom DGteam firmware I can set many more DNS servers as backup. So I never seem to have problems lately.
 
...so any official response to:
(I do recall openweb at least giving one on their ruling way back)

Mweb Uncapped Internet Service / DI Wise & Another / 16148
Ruling of the : ASA Directorate
In the matter between:
Mr DI Wise Sharyn L Wise Complainant(s)/Appellant(s)
Mweb Connect (Pty) Ltd Respondent

04 May 2011

Consumer complaints were lodged against an Mweb Connect’s internet advertising promoting its Broadband ADSL Uncapped that was published on www.mweb.co.za.

The advertised products that are a subject matter to the complaint are Uncapped products, which offers “Unlimited internet access for a fixed monthly price” varying from R219,00 to R2 359,00 per month. Some of the benefits listed include, “Don’t get cut off from your Internet”; “Use as much data as you like”; “FAST always-on internet access”; and “Ideal for video calling, downloads and running a small office”.

COMPLAINT
In essence, the complainants submitted that the advertisement is misleading as the word “uncapped” implies limitless access, but their accounts were cancelled by the respondent claiming high bandwidth usage as the reason.

RELEVANT CLAUSE OF THE CODE OF ADVERTISING PRACTICE
In light of the complaint Clause 4.2.1 of Section II (Misleading claims) of the Code was taken into account.

RESPONSE
DLA Cliffe Dekker Hofmeyr Attorneys, on behalf of the respondent, submitted, inter alia, that the complainants’ accounts were cancelled as their usage conduct was in breach of the respondent’s “Acceptable Use Policy”.

ASA DIRECTORATE RULING
The ASA Directorate considered all the relevant documentation submitted by the respective parties.

Clause 4.2.1 of Section II states that advertisements should not contain any statement or visual presentation, which directly or by implication, omission, ambiguity, inaccuracy, exaggerated claim or otherwise, is likely to mislead the consumer.

The complainants are of the opinion that the advertisement is misleading as the word “uncapped” implies limitless access, but their accounts were cancelled by the respondent claiming high bandwidth usage as the reason.

The respondent submitted that the complainants’ accounts were cancelled as their usage conduct was in breach of the respondent’s “Acceptable Use Policy”.

In Open Web Uncapped ADSL / M B Deas and Another / 9690 (16 October 2007) where a similar issue was considered, the Directorate, taking into consideration an opinion from the Internet Service Provider’s Association (ISPA), ruled as follows:

“While ISPA accepted that some consumers might attach an incorrect interpretation to the term ‘uncapped’, it appears of the opinion that the respondent’s practice is common in the industry…The Directorate acknowledges that there is some scope for a potential customer to confuse the ‘threshold’ levels as ‘caps’, but the meaning of the limitations must be assessed in the context they appear. The claim therefore needs to be measured in the context of the respondent’s website.”

The claim “uncapped” was not ruled against, as the respondent, at worst, throttled the connection speed, but never terminated the connection entirely.

In Sentech / M Diamond / 3239 (2 November 2005) the Directorate considered the claim “unlimited” and stated “While this claim is ex facie true for the respondent’s MyWireless flexi package, the material before the Directorate indicates that it does not apply to the MyWireless classic packages, which are, by the respondent’s own admission, monitored and limited after excessive usage. The claim specifically states that the access supplied is “unlimited” with no qualifying statements as to any conditions. The reality, however, is that there are certain limitations applicable to the respondent’s services, depending on the package that one chooses.”

From the above it becomes apparent that a hypothetical reasonable person confronted with a claim such as “uncapped”, would expect never to have his connection terminated. Practices such as reducing (throttling) connection speed are often used as an alternative to capping.

With regard to the matter at hand the respondent submitted that the complainants’ access was terminated because they did not use the service for periodic active use of the internet. The complainants’ accounts were therefore not terminated based on the volume of data usage but the manner in which the accounts were used. The respondent has however not put before the Directorate specific reasons why the complainants’ services were cut. While the Directorate accepts that the respondent may have sound business reasons for doing so, the fact remains that it appears ex facie that the respondent’s uncapped product is monitored and “capped” at some point.

Based on the above the Directorate is of the opinion that the advertisement is misleading, as it appears ex facie that the service is not “uncapped” as claimed and understood by the hypothetical reasonable person.

The claim “uncapped” is therefore in contravention of Clause 4.2.1 of Section II.

Given the above finding:

The claim “uncapped” must be withdrawn;

The process to withdraw the claim must be actioned with immediate effect on receipt of ruling;

The withdrawal of the claim must be completed within the deadlines stipulated by Clause 15.3 of the Procedural Guide; and

The claim may not be used again in its current format unless the respondent provides an uncapped service.


The Directorate wishes to draw the respondent’s attention to Clause 15.5 of the Procedural Guide which states that offending claims are to be withdrawn from every medium in which they appear, notwithstanding that the complaint did not specifically refer to that particular medium.

The complaints are therefore upheld. [link]
 
Well my Newserver using grabit and some "optimizations" got me now 300+ KB/s. It slowed down to 100+ a half-hour ago but restored itself again. I am happy!

Well till now it was fine and unfortunately since 2:45 AM it dropped down crawling to 20+ KB/s. Just prior to that I was running on close to 400 KB/s. This is frustrating. Its not the net or ADSL link it seems so it must be the news server!

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WOw this morning in Durban my News server is back to normal speeds for the first time since Tuesday, hope it lasts
 
...so any official response to:
(I do recall openweb at least giving one on their ruling way back)

Hi Pr⊕phet,

The matter is still pending with our legal team.

Kind regards,

MWEB Guy
 
Well till now it was fine and unfortunately since 2:45 AM it dropped down crawling to 20+ KB/s. Just prior to that I was running on close to 400 KB/s. This is frustrating. Its not the net or ADSL link it seems so it must be the news server!

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Hi MegasXLR,

Please power down your router for 20 min and restart your PC please.

Kind regards,

MWEB Guy
 
Hi Pr⊕phet,

The matter is still pending with our legal team.

Kind regards,

MWEB Guy

I see. Thanks, but it's taking an awful long time to put out a statement. Guess the weekend nicely kicked in ;)
 
I see. Thanks, but it's taking an awful long time to put out a statement. Guess the weekend nicely kicked in ;)

There was a posting a while back from the MWEB Facebook page which indicated that they are considering challenging the ASA ruling. I'm not sure what useful statement they could put out at the moment, except to say that they have noted the ASA ruling and that they are in consultation with their legal team regarding the next steps. Certainly, removing "uncapped" from all advertising is a dramatic step, as is being discussed in this thread.
 
Mweb Guy I am as patient as the next but this is taking way too long , if you guys want I could put a team together and we can come help you guys out ....
Who's game ? Anyone complete access to Mweb servers and accounts anyone , anyone ......

Router restarts give you max or moderately good speed for 20min to 47 min there after it drops to just above dial up speed. Re syncing the account helps for all of 13 mins.
I am of to buy some axis prepaid ,cause this is ridiculous ...some one please post a Huge article on the front page in bold RED saying Mweb is fixed when it is .
 
There was a posting a while back from the MWEB Facebook page which indicated that they are considering challenging the ASA ruling. I'm not sure what useful statement they could put out at the moment, except to say that they have noted the ASA ruling and that they are in consultation with their legal team regarding the next steps. Certainly, removing "uncapped" from all advertising is a dramatic step, as is being discussed in this thread.
So why haven't they complied with the ruling yet. Their web page still remains unaltered.
 
MWEB Guy, okay so there have been a couple of people here moaning about MWEB DNS issues. Have you had any feedback on this?

Hi MWEB Guy, do you have any feedback about this. Have rebooted router a number of times since yesterday as it refuses to display MWEB Home page, although other sites are fine. Also very slow to load. Any news?
 
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