MWEB Uncapped Subscribers Feedback

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Guys, I fully understand that the product is a SHAPED product, but you get "shaped" and you get "somer just bloody broken"

Shaped is when you get 50KB/s or 100KB/s and change the account from MWEB to say, SAIX and get 400KB/s on the same file.
But when you do the same and instead of getting 50KB/s you get 0KB/s - but full speed on every other NON MWEB account - something is up... and please don't talk shaping here!
 
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/speedtestpg.jpg/

why should anyone be paying for a 4mb account , if that's the average speed experience for the last 3 weeks ?

would you pay for this Will ?
would you pay for this MwebGuy ?
would you pay for this Rudi ?

Great question... lucky you though is getting better performance on your account... it irritates me that MWEB reps only respond to the easy questions, and when there is any criticism are all too eager to blame Telkom. AAARRRRGGGGGG not having a great MWEB day today... I feel a welling of profanities.

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My Youtube is starting to getting better streaming at 360p but nothing higher than that.
Http is still dead cant even open up speedtest.net and getting below 10kb/s on 4mb line........ :(
 
I've been trying to cancel since this morning, all I get is "please wait while I put you through to cancellations" ....5mins... "sorry, can we take a message and ask them to call you back" and they never do. I've tried 3 times today already...
 
I've been trying to cancel since this morning, all I get is "please wait while I put you through to cancellations" ....5mins... "sorry, can we take a message and ask them to call you back" and they never do. I've tried 3 times today already...


you seriously have to phone to cancel?
 
Dam I cant do my work properly today because of this, oh well. MwebGuy this is affecting my income a bit, please man sort this out, I have 4mbps at work for a very good reason.
 
I have been trying to cancel via email and its just not happening. Not even getting replies other than the automated messages saying thank you for contacting mweb...
 
Ok now that the best ISP for 4mbps uncapped shaped has gone down the drain what are my options? I need a 4mbps account for work and home that can do at least 50 to 150GB a month without going into a 10 day rolling thing.
 
Ok now that the best ISP for 4mbps uncapped shaped has gone down the drain what are my options? I need a 4mbps account for work and home that can do at least 50 to 150GB a month without going into a 10 day rolling thing.

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come now mweb, i still want you guys to be the top isp, lets work together and not beat around the bush with generic answers
 
So much for the new traffic management setup in London making things better....

@Mweb, when last was there a bandwidth capacity upgrade?
 
MWEB's Traffic "Shaping" Visualised

Like most people here that are religiously following this thread in the hope of getting some answers, I have spent the last few days running tests of my own at home to try and get a better understanding of what is happening to my MWEB bandwidth. One of these tests is to graph my traffic so that I can get a visual picture of what's going on over time. Something I had noticed previously was that I was being limited per connection as opposed to my total throughput, and this meant that my first attempt at graphing was skewed when my download manager, by default, used multiple threads. For example, I had noticed that during the day (and this applied to every international URL I tried), I would be getting about 256kbps (30KB/sec) per thread. If I used 4 threads, I would get 4 x 256kbps total throughput. I wanted to show this phenomenon over time on a graph, so I decided to create a large file on my webserver in Europe and download it using a single threaded HTTP connection overnight... The results can be seen below, so lets take a look and see what conclusions we can draw from it.

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* 17h00: I begin the download. In realtime on the download manager, I'm seeing fluctuation between 20KB/sec and 40KB/sec, but the 5-minute average you see here shows the true speed of about 30KB/sec (256kbps).
* 22h00: Here we start to see the first signs of change as the download gains momentum, peaking at just below 1mbps at midnight, but then strangely dropping off to 512kbps again.
* 01h00: What have we here?! Suddenly the taps are open and I'm getting full speed! I say "full speed" because remember, this is only a single connection and even in a perfect world, one generally doesn't see a single connection to an international server achieve > 3mbps (unless it has been transparently cached locally of course).
* 08h00: Bandwidth throttling comes down like a hammer and within an hour I am limited to 256kbps once again.

Conclusions:
1.) What this graph shows beyond a shadow of doubt is that I am subject to hard-throttling per connection. This is *not* mere traffic-shaping, rather these are hard-and-fast rules that have been put in place at some point along the way.
2.) If the Technical Manager at MWEB doesn't know about these limitations that are obviously active, then they have a serious problem with internal communication. However, it is far more likely that he DOES know about it, but for whatever reason, he cannot come right out and tell us about it. This is probably the most frustarting part about all of this... It should not fall to customers like myself to have to do investigations like this in order for us to get the full picture. If we are being throttled based on time of day, then we have a right to know about it, and clearly, *SOMEONE* at MWEB has put in this limit.

My Theory:
Something I haven't mentioned yet is that I have two friends with MWEB accounts in the Durban area who are experiencing the same problems. However, and this is especially perplexing, two other friends in Cape Town are having NO SUCH ISSUES. At any time in the day, they are seeing single connection speeds of > 200KB/sec. Its worth noting that they have similar usage on their accounts too, so it would appear that the throttling isn't based on bandwidth usage, but rather geographical location and / or the route that the traffic takes to get to its destination. Quite likely, my Cape Town friends' traffic is travelling by different backbone provider compared to mine, and therefore subject to different bandwidth management. Again though, MWEB should know this; we shouldn't have to tell them.

When I find some time to log a fault with Telkom, I will submit the support document that has been posted here recently. It will of course prove less useful than the information I have provided above, because as we all know by now, local traffic is 100% so MWEB speed tests will reveal nothing, and simply dialling up with an alternative ISP validates that the line is not to blame.

Either way, I hope that this information proves useful. My next test will be to dial up with one of my Cape Town friends' accounts to rule out (or confirm) the theory that it is only a block of accounts that is affected.
 
UPDATE:

Surprise surprise. At 8am this morning it all went to pot again. I am paying R540 per month for 384k from 8am to midnight and 4meg from midnight to 8am. Has been like this all month long!

On monday morning I am going to cancel this account and get myself Afrihost's gold 50gig capped account for R495 per month. I don't use 50 gig in a month anyway, so it makes sense.

This morning I paid R70 to get a gig of data from Axxess and suddenly I could do all the thing I used to do a month ago on Mweb.

I'm tired of jumping through hoops and listening to the mweb spin doctors. They are pulling the wool over our eyes and I have had enough. Going to recommend that everyone I know with an mweb account cancel as well, just as I urge all of you to do the same.
 
contacted Billing @ mweb for a refund, looks like im on the 1mb package but getting billed for the 4mb?

* also mailed RPM and asked if they have noticed the spike of 1700+ posts this month and if they are gonna do an article or something


*edit sorry, forgot to include the sarcastic smile
 
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vaalpens, they don't care about us. they only want your money, and will skirt the issue ad infinitum to keep you on for as long as possible. The spin doctors are quiet because they know that it's true, they know that they are throttling us between 8am and midnight. they are pulling us over a barrel and raping us!!! Cancel your account!
 
contacted Billing @ mweb for a refund, looks like im on the 1mb package but getting billed for the 4mb?

* also mailed RPM and asked if they have noticed the spike of 1700+ posts this month and if they are gonna do an article or something

You got through to them!?!? no fair.
 
tests so far on single threaded downloads , not with 5+ threads like all my other tests

(-1 shows the 6mb file not completing in under 5 minutes or timing out)

# | time | kbits/s (so devide by 8 for KB/s)

[27]|2011-05-25 05:15:00 : |709
[28]|2011-05-25 05:40:00 : |543
[29]|2011-05-25 06:05:00 : |605
[30]|2011-05-25 06:30:00 : |525
[31]|2011-05-25 06:55:01 : |580
[32]|2011-05-25 07:20:00 : |519
[33]|2011-05-25 07:45:00 : |604
[34]|2011-05-25 08:10:02 : |366
[35]|2011-05-25 08:35:00 : |284
[36]|2011-05-25 09:00:00 : |-1
[37]|2011-05-25 09:25:01 : |-1
[38]|2011-05-25 09:55:00 : |-1
[39]|2011-05-25 10:20:00 : |-1
[40]|2011-05-25 10:45:01 : |-1
[41]|2011-05-25 11:10:01 : |-1
 
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