MyBB Motorcycle Owners Thread

[Hosehead]

I am/was a Triumph guy so you are completely speaking out of your ass because I have also owned both.

They do actually offer roadside assistance.

My Triumph lived at the dealership for near 20% of it's entire life while I owned it.

Their warranty policy sucks and is fight after fight about bull****.

Reliability I won't even go into because mine was dying at 30,000km from new and was completely and utterly dead and broken by 33,000km. Almost a 100k (near the original price of the bike) in parts and labour later it was fixed.

Nope, BMW has fully converted this Triumph guy thank you very much.


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Why on earth would you need new valves? And are those TPMS valves because they are equally pricey everywhere, being about R2500 on my Triumph when I bought it and now near R4000.

Goes to show YMMV . Never had a problem in 20 years over 3 Triumphs never mind a single triumph.
I did have Minor problems with Kawasaki relating to worn coil and aftermarket pipes but I was never stranded
No problems with Suzuki at all on the legendary slingshots.
Now maybe this K series BMW is a Turkey. Only time will tell. Oh and I forgot to add that electric windscreen developed gremlins requiring the BMW computer ...actually everything needs the bloody BMW bike diagnostic computer to fix.
Is it a nice machine ? Yes but not without more than its fair share of niggles than I have ever had on any bike brand to date.
Overpriced parts ? Absolutely.

 

[Trompie67]

I love my er6, a friend has the nc700 added I must say on pull away its got some torque. But I prefer the er6, though that's cause I'm more of a sporty rider. One word of warning, the exhaust is one unit, no slip on, and the stock exhaust is VERY quiet.

Gut it. Will make it a tad more noisy......

Because, you know, loud pipes save lives!

 

[SauRoNZA]

Goes to show YMMV . Never had a problem in 20 years over 3 Triumphs never mind a single triumph.
I did have Minor problems with Kawasaki relating to worn coil and aftermarket pipes but I was never stranded
No problems with Suzuki at all on the legendary slingshots.
Now maybe this K series BMW is a Turkey. Only time will tell. Oh and I forgot to add that electric windscreen developed gremlins requiring the BMW computer ...actually everything needs the bloody BMW bike diagnostic computer to fix.
Is it a nice machine ? Yes but not without more than its fair share of niggles than I have ever had on any bike brand to date.
Overpriced parts ? Absolutely.

Exactly the point, different dealership and different bikes offer vastly different experiences.

I've found the BMW a lot cheaper to maintain than both my Triumph and Buell before it by and large because their labour increments are broken down better and they don't charge you half an hour to take the wheel off or some other bull****.

My supposedly legendary Suzuki had a pretty minor problem actually but was a nightmare to find with multiple trips to the dealership which is very inconvenient, but ultimately none of my bikes have left me stranded outside of punctures which are an easy enough fix.

Outlier parts are usually a bit on the pricey side regardless of brand by the very nature that they are specially ordered and so on.

Nothing really wrong with needing the computer to fix things. It makes for quick and easy diagnosis...unlike my Suzuki which only threw an error code at the time of the problem instead of saving it which is why it took so many trips to the shop.

Better computer on my Triumph may also have helped with finding or possibly even preventing the eventual entire engine failure.

Amazingly my Buell never had a single electronic hickup and the issues were very much mechanical with wheel bearings and neck bearings and such going prematurely.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Gut it. Will make it a tad more noisy......

Because, you know, loud pipes save lives!

Well the notion of it being a single unit makes the entire thing a slipon in reality so it's not all that different.

Since they stole the idea from Buell it's not really all that hard to swop out either.

 

[Trompie67]

Well the notion of it being a single unit makes the entire thing a slipon in reality so it's not all that different.

Since they stole the idea from Buell it's not really all that hard to swop out either.

Um, tongue in cheek much?

Also - when did they change the design? A friend had an er6n & 4ways fitted a Yoshi tri-oval slip on. No full system replacement, she was given the end can to take home with her.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Um, tongue in cheek much?

Also - when did they change the design? A friend had an er6n & 4ways fitted a Yoshi tri-oval slip on. No full system replacement, she was given the end can to take home with her.

It’s been underslung all along.

That’s why I raised the point that the “full unit” is still pretty much the exact same as a slip on.

Just goes under the bike instead of next to it really with no mid pipe section.

Basically there is a header and an end can, nothing in between.

 

[Zuner]

Gut it. Will make it a tad more noisy......

Because, you know, loud pipes save lives!

i was considering that, but people on the kawa forums say it sound horrible and performs worse. so i'll keep it stock until my next bike. and spend the $$ on the new bike. full akra was 13k on a bike i only spent 55k on buying.

 

[kfc4unme]

i was considering that, but people on the kawa forums say it sound horrible and performs worse. so i'll keep it stock until my next bike. and spend the $$ on the new bike. full akra was 13k on a bike i only spent 55k on buying.

Full akra for R13K sounds pretty good if you take into consideration that an akra SLIP ON for my ktm 1050 is R14k. Which is literally 10% of the cost of the entire bike brand new. Crazy. Really would love the akra but at that price.... My next bike I am going to get second hand with one on already.

 

[Zuner]

Full akra for R13K sounds pretty good if you take into consideration that an akra SLIP ON for my ktm 1050 is R14k. Which is literally 10% of the cost of the entire bike brand new. Crazy. Really would love the akra but at that price.... My next bike I am going to get second hand with one on already.

yeah i was actually surprised at the price, though still doesn't change the fact that for the bike its expensive. yikes thats insane for a slip on.

 

[SauRoNZA]

i was considering that, but people on the kawa forums say it sound horrible and performs worse. so i'll keep it stock until my next bike. and spend the $$ on the new bike. full akra was 13k on a bike i only spent 55k on buying.

Akra is just nuts at present.

I’ll probably go Leo Vince because of it.

 

[faniebraai]

1 thing I don't like about my NC is how soft it is... I would love to have purring a little a louder. But what I know about exhaust pipes and slip ons, slip offs, or these names that you guys are throwing around is worse than dangerous.

 

[Willy Strong]

Had my first lock up. *** scary.

Approached the robot too fast. Two cars waiting to turn in front of me and the light turned orange/amber 100 to 50 meters on approach.

Started braking with the back but it wasn't enough and held onto the front as well.

I stepped on the back too hard and it locked up. Started skidding. Released back, tried the front, tried to gear down. Might have touched the white paint. No cars around me.

The waiting cars luckily saw me coming and didn't move.

While being locked I finally stopped in the middle of the intersection. I could not look up and the embarrassment was upon me.

I was still in 5th gear stopped and they turned few inches in front of me.

EISH.

 

[Sinbad]

You should be using the front as primary, not the back. Weight transfer will make the back lock very easily.

That being said, glad it ended ok

 

[Zuner]

[video=youtube;jDGvzy038Eo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDGvzy038Eo[/video]

As mentioned by Sinbad, Front is the primary. the above video shows just how weak the back brake can be. i use engine braking most of the time with rear brake for low speed stopping, and front, engine and rear for high speed stopping. Glad you're okay, but take it as a blessing, you won't be making that same mistake again anytime soon. at least you got that experience without a crash.

 

[memphis32]

Good topic here. I usually use the front brakes on my bike, but since I only have a single disk in front, there isn't much stopping power for emergency cases. If I need more power, then add in back brake. One must also remember that the more weight is being put on the front with the brakes, the less traction you have in the rear, so you can't stand in the peddle while squeezing hard. A few times I had the back end step out while on heavy braking. Usually I only realise it once I lift off the peddle and the bike jerks back in line.

 

[Trompie67]

Had my first lock up. *** scary.

Approached the robot too fast. Two cars waiting to turn in front of me and the light turned orange/amber 100 to 50 meters on approach.

Started braking with the back but it wasn't enough and held onto the front as well.

I stepped on the back too hard and it locked up. Started skidding. Released back, tried the front, tried to gear down. Might have touched the white paint. No cars around me.

The waiting cars luckily saw me coming and didn't move.

While being locked I finally stopped in the middle of the intersection. I could not look up and the embarrassment was upon me.

I was still in 5th gear stopped and they turned few inches in front of me.

EISH.

There is a skill to emergency braking that can be taught & needs to be practised regularly. Jumping on the back brake, locking it up & sliding along without even gearing down is a basic riding error. One that is often made by people who've been riding for years. It is easily remedied through proper instruction. Arriving at the intersection too fast is also a basic noob error. Training will help correct it.

Good topic here. I usually use the front brakes on my bike, but since I only have a single disk in front, there isn't much stopping power for emergency cases. If I need more power, then add in back brake. One must also remember that the more weight is being put on the front with the brakes, the less traction you have in the rear, so you can't stand in the peddle while squeezing hard. A few times I had the back end step out while on heavy braking. Usually I only realise it once I lift off the peddle and the bike jerks back in line.

Unless you're riding a harley or cruiser your single front disc has enough braking power to stand your bike on it's nose.

Please please please, both of you, go and get some rider training.

 

[Hamster]

Rear brake adds stability. Every rider is different but I almost always use the rear brake to some extent (depending on speed). If you are getting to an intersection and the rear brake is applied already it makes an emergency/hard brake with the fronts much easier. Personally, I'm not a fan of engine braking - too easy to have too much power jerk the rear of the bike.

...your single front disc has enough braking power to stand your bike on it's nose.

This, and I learned that the painful hard way. A fistful of front brake is enough to send you over the handlebars :erm:

And regarding that lock up - you haven't lived until you've felt your front tyre sliding.

 

[UrBaN963]

Rear brake adds stability. Every rider is different but I almost always use the rear brake to some extent (depending on speed). If you are getting to an intersection and the rear brake is applied already it makes an emergency/hard brake with the fronts much easier. Personally, I'm not a fan of engine braking - too easy to have too much power jerk the rear of the bike.



This, and I learned that the painful hard way. A fistful of front brake is enough to send you over the handlebars :erm:

And regarding that lock up - you haven't lived until you've felt your front tyre sliding.

Thanks for reminding me, now I'll get no sleep tonight.

 

[Zuner]

Personally, I'm not a fan of engine braking - too easy to have too much power jerk the rear of the bike.
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I've always used engine braking, when I started out I often went to far down into 1st locking up the wheel, now that I'm more experienced I haven't done that in ages. I love to blip the throttle while gearing down that goes along with engine braking.

 

[SauRoNZA]

1 thing I don't like about my NC is how soft it is... I would love to have purring a little a louder. But what I know about exhaust pipes and slip ons, slip offs, or these names that you guys are throwing around is worse than dangerous.

Two Brothers.