AirWolf
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Which thread?Another month end around the corner. Another round of unauthorised debit orders.
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Which thread?Another month end around the corner. Another round of unauthorised debit orders.
Already 2 posters in the other thread.
Nedbank: Debit order of R149.95 processed on acc no *****. Ref: MC24 3217403 . 01Dec18 at 02:05
So this is very frustrating. I opened a savings account at my bank for my 1 year old son about 2 weeks ago. Got this sms this morning and somehow there is a debit order on his account. How the F*k is this possible?
yip. i am calling this as an inside job. they have people giving the info out.That’s a bit kak!
A source at a big bank (not Standard Bank), who spoke on condition of anonymity, says the Nconnups debit orders were considered so suspicious that the bank took a decision to protect its clients by reversing all of them, regardless of whether they were disputed or not. This amounted to over 150 000 debit orders.
For a rough estimate of the total number of Nconnups R99 debit orders across all ‘big five’ banks, one could multiply 150 000 by five to get 750 000. At R99 each, that makes a total of R74 million. Even if the majority of debit orders are reversed, the potential gains for the mystery recipient are still substantial.
Moneyweb contacted Standard Bank to request the following information:
Standard Bank provided a response, but did not answer the questions. Instead it detailed what actions victims of debit order abuse should take.
- The identity of the mystery recipient
- Whether Standard Bank intends to reverse all Nconnups debits that affected its own retail clients
- Whether Standard Bank has initiated an investigation into Umvuzo’s vetting of clients.
Moneyweb requested an interview with the person at Standard Bank responsible for the Umvuzo account but received no response.
So banks can do something if they wanted to, It is not only this NCONUPS debits, plenty of illegal debit order that are common and can easily be flagged by the banks, why not take this proactive approach on all of them?About NCONUPS:
Mystery R99 debit hits SA accounts
https://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/companies-and-deals/mystery-r99-debit-hits-sa-accounts/
Seems Standard Bank can't care to hire competent PR...
Again it shows that the banks can do more to protect their customers from this, they just choose not to.Capitec to refund 25,000 customers after R99 debit fraud hits South Africa’s banks
Capitec to refund all customers hit by the Nconnups (Umvuzo Payment Solutions) debit order fraud, whether they reported it or not.
That is what I call being proactive. Why wont all the banks do it? Because they get something out of it....
A lot of people got paid early this month so they are probably pushing the debit orders through early as well.A colleague of mine with ABSA got hit with a NCONNUPS debit order for R99 again yesterday (18 Dec 20128).
A lot of people got paid early this month so they are probably pushing the debit orders through early as well.
Hope they get shut down permanently.
I'm also with ABSA and originally got hit on 18 Nov, luckily not again this month after putting a stop to the D/O. They seem to have 2 runs per month: 18th and then again on the 1st. If you read the whole thread you will see that people that gets hit on the 18th don't get hit on the 1st and vice versa.
A lot of people got paid early this month so they are probably pushing the debit orders through early as well.
Hope they get shut down permanently.
They're probably setup as naedo tracking debit orders... So as soon as the money cleared it was deducted.Her previous one was on the 1st.
Her previous one was on the 1st.
They're probably setup as naedo tracking debit orders... So as soon as the money cleared it was deducted.
if that's the case then the banks are losing money as people reverse the debit orders also.They're probably setup as naedo tracking debit orders... So as soon as the money cleared it was deducted.