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Nvidia feels the pinch
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scotty777
...doesn't know
perhaps, but then they earn less on each product, and judging from the size of the current gtx gpu's, i think they don't earn all that much cash...
Honestly, I think AMD has just got one of the best strategies, they started doing it with the HD3000 series where they would charge little money for decent performance, then with the HD4000 series coming out, they charged little money for amazing performance, then the whole economy went balls up and people just decided to go AMD... I guess it was fantastic timing coupled with good products that became AMD's success... Nvidia is still toiling away with the "fastest card ever" strategy... If they want to make any money this year they gonna have to release fast, cool and cheap products... but with AMD going to release there 40nm products soon, i think maybe Nvidia is still in hot water whether they like it or not
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AMD FTW... Always been my choice
I have never and probably will never own an Intel processor... Maybe if I'm forced to in the future
Lol...I will never own a car...my feet work just as well!!!!
Soz..just had to
@Zenbaas... I did say probably you know...
I know
Well the more competition they give each other the better for us. I remember when I originally wanted to buy a NV 8800gts 320 that they prices were so bloody expensive for the performance you were getting. Now you can buy a rather nice GFX card for around R2000. Its never good for the consumer if one company completely breaks the other...so I hope AMD can recover with their CPU's and NV can suffer a little while longer with their GPU's
medicnick83
Paramedic
Intel / NVidia FTW!
That's all I'm saying on this matter!
That's all I'm saying on this matter!
magikn00b
Well-Known Member
hahahaha
AMD ftw!!!
50% Drop in Revenue hmmmm thats quite abit, hope it keeps falling
Competition will then get very very interesting
AMD ftw!!!
50% Drop in Revenue hmmmm thats quite abit, hope it keeps falling
Competition will then get very very interesting
Indeed.
As great as fanboyism is, the whole point is to allow fanboys to learn enough to eventually stop being fanboys and look at the facts then draw conclusions.
1. NVIDIA GPU's in the GT2XX range cost more to manufacturer than the RX7XX line from ATI. (They are physically larger in gate count and process node)
2. 448/512-bit memory bus means PCB is far more complex, more layers, more power phases, more things to go wrong, hence higher risk.
3. RV7XX line is scaled from R6XX GPU which was a failure performance wise. ATI packaged more than 2.5X the stream processors to bring levels up to what NVIDIA G8X GPU's are doing with sometimes less than half the stream processors.
Not saying NVIDIA is better per say, but just different design methodology.
4. Each Stream processor in the GT2XX GPU's is about 3X the power of a stream processor in the ATI R7XX line of GPUs.
5. The writer of the original article has a bias and is surprisingly reporting the reduced revenue for NVIDIA as a win for ATI. However that is not true, realize that this is only NVIDIA's 2nd posting of lowered revenue in the last 5 years almost and yes it is significant, however compared to ATI having made losses annually, for years on end even past the company being bought by AMD, this is hardly the end for NVIDIA.
In 2008, AMD fired 1,600 workers, last month a further 600, and is now going to fire 9% of its workforce (1,100 people) and the rest of the people employed are taking substantial salary cuts. So once again, its important to not be a Fanboy and celebrate everything that's bad that happens to a company you may not like. If things carry on like this over at AMD, there will be no ATI to root for.
Despite lowered revenue NVIDIA in the same time period is still more profitable than ATI,... Its great that we are all fans of various IHV's but in these times, its best to look at things a little more deeply than what we are used too.
Yes NVIDIA has retrenched 6.5% of its work force as well (360 people it is said) globally and I'm surprised that we as fans can cheer for a bad economic climate when it is to do with a certain company we may not like, but forget that when things go wrong financially, it's people who lose jobs, its not only about your Crysis frame rate or how much local distros rip us off
1. NVIDIA GPU's in the GT2XX range cost more to manufacturer than the RX7XX line from ATI. (They are physically larger in gate count and process node)
2. 448/512-bit memory bus means PCB is far more complex, more layers, more power phases, more things to go wrong, hence higher risk.
3. RV7XX line is scaled from R6XX GPU which was a failure performance wise. ATI packaged more than 2.5X the stream processors to bring levels up to what NVIDIA G8X GPU's are doing with sometimes less than half the stream processors.
Not saying NVIDIA is better per say, but just different design methodology.
4. Each Stream processor in the GT2XX GPU's is about 3X the power of a stream processor in the ATI R7XX line of GPUs.
5. The writer of the original article has a bias and is surprisingly reporting the reduced revenue for NVIDIA as a win for ATI. However that is not true, realize that this is only NVIDIA's 2nd posting of lowered revenue in the last 5 years almost and yes it is significant, however compared to ATI having made losses annually, for years on end even past the company being bought by AMD, this is hardly the end for NVIDIA.
In 2008, AMD fired 1,600 workers, last month a further 600, and is now going to fire 9% of its workforce (1,100 people) and the rest of the people employed are taking substantial salary cuts. So once again, its important to not be a Fanboy and celebrate everything that's bad that happens to a company you may not like. If things carry on like this over at AMD, there will be no ATI to root for.
Despite lowered revenue NVIDIA in the same time period is still more profitable than ATI,... Its great that we are all fans of various IHV's but in these times, its best to look at things a little more deeply than what we are used too.
Yes NVIDIA has retrenched 6.5% of its work force as well (360 people it is said) globally and I'm surprised that we as fans can cheer for a bad economic climate when it is to do with a certain company we may not like, but forget that when things go wrong financially, it's people who lose jobs, its not only about your Crysis frame rate or how much local distros rip us off