OT: ANC Elective Conference

Verde said:
If you support opposition parties you should welcome Ace in the SG position:
- He will be the face of the ANC which will leak votes for them.
- Ramaphosa will be more motivated to get a credible NPA boss appointed to get Ace charged. The drama when that happens will not be good PR for the ANC.
- Media will scrutinise his history and splash his known crimes all over the news as well as uncover new dirt.
- ANC will be more paralysed than if the top 6 worked together.
- lots of egg on ANC’s face for allowing this voting debacle to happen in the first place.
- Best of all ANC in KZN will lose support to IFP because they appear weak- the biggest province ends up with no one in top 6.

For Ramaphosa supporters there is also a silver lining. With Ace out of Free State politics and Senzo forced to go back to KZN politics, chances are looking great for Ramaphosa friendly provincial chairs in both provinces.

I say it is best to just drop this issue now.
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Yeh, I tend to agree.

Not to mention, the guy in charge of the Free state ANC which has had big chunks excluded from the last two conferences because they can't get their house in order, is now running the whole ANC....
 
ISP cash cow said:
Maybe somebody can clarify my confusion on this

The votes were by secret ballot
They claim that certain voters were legitimate to vote but were not on the voters roll

How were they allowed to actually vote in the first place and be counted in the head count if they were not on the voters roll?

Would the fact that they were not on the voters role but legitimate voters be resolved even before they got the paper to vote?

How do they know which votes belonged to the "illegitimate" voters unless they kept the votes completely separate to the rest of the votes?

why would they do this if it is supposed to be a secret ballot?

Were these votes removed on the third count as I read an article somewhere that Mchunu had won on the two previous counts and only on the third count did ACE win after his people kept asking for a repeat count?

This just all seems very strange
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Their votes were kept apart in a separate ballot box by Elexions (the independent agency) while awaiting to make sure they were allowed to vote.
 
f2wohf said:
Their votes were kept apart in a separate ballot box by Elexions (the independent agency) while awaiting to make sure they were allowed to vote.
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ok thanks but then how would they know which of the 15 votes out of the 68 votes that were "quarantined" were from the legitimate voters that they were going to allow to vote, basically how would they know which votes to accept in and not accept in - or were all the votes in that separate box for only the one candidate
 
ISP cash cow said:
ok thanks but then how would they know which of the 15 votes out of the 68 votes that were "quarantined" were from the legitimate voters that they were going to allow to vote, basically how would they know which votes to accept in and not accept in - or were all the votes in that separate box for only the one candidate
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Perhaps they kept each vote one by one in sealed envelopes I’d imagine.
 
R13... said:
If you mean delegate lists, that is done by each branch, then consolidated at province level & finally sent to the SG for final consolidation and checks
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No, I mean party lists for elections. Or is the whole NEC in control of that? Are they selected from the delegates?
 
Nailing Ace using the non-partisan NDPP that Ramaphosa will pick is the better way of getting rid of him. Using the missing votes to try change things is not the lasting result that he's looking for.
 
Just in: ANC has resolved for the full decriminilisation of sex work. Both buying and selling. The New Zealand model. Will engage with society to educate on the issue.
 
Sinbad said:
Just in: ANC has resolved for the full decriminilisation of sex work. Both buying and selling. The New Zealand model. Will engage with society to educate on the issue.
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I don't know any new Zealand models are they talking about sheep?
 
Sinbad said:
Just in: ANC has resolved for the full decriminilisation of sex work. Both buying and selling. The New Zealand model. Will engage with society to educate on the issue.
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Time to invest in a whorehouse?

Edit: Can't wait to see the righteous indignation from the usual suspects :D
 
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