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Nick333 said:
Since I find myself in uncharacteristic agreement with my fellow alpha-numerics on this I may as well come to their defense.

Your example of the priest is a case of the good of society for the sake of a monsters right to unburden his black little soul. Screw the mafia and catholic tradition they have both done untold damage to humanity.

To extend the analogy to killa's predicament, his ******* friend shouldn't have put him in a moral dilema in the first place. He was behaving imorally so why should killa be held to a higher moral standard?
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Think it's time to hear from the fiancee now.
 
sabagamma said:
@ alan85 - your argument is so scatterbrained it is impossible to follow. What is clear though is that you are untrustworthy. Your word is as frivolous as your logic.

@Debbie2 - You're not getting the point, Killa could have kept his word to everyone. All he had to do is be honest with his friend when his friend asked him not to tell anybody. He could have said "NO"! It would have taken courage to be honest with his friend, but Killa chose to go another way.

Priests who do confessions are a good example of people who value their word. The murderer of judge Giovanni Falcone confessed his crime to a priest. The priest never told anyone who the confessor was. This was an issue of national importance in Italy, the mafia had attacked the state - this is not about some petty cheating boyfriend. Imagine the burden this priest has had to bear, but still he honoured his word and the word of the church. Now imagine alan85 was a priest, he would destroy 2000 years in two weeks.
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Yes he should've said no initially but even though he didn't he still followed the best course of action from then on.
 
killadoob said:
because i think its wrong and my fincee is like best friends with his g/f

i just think with all these diseases around that doing this is not something that should kept secret

so you guys think i broke a cardinal male rule?

what he does is his business but not when he takes me with him and asks me to keep quite about it
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Dude, for what its worth I recon you did the right thing.
Its one thing for you and your mates to go to a strip club, but when someone starts playing hide-the-sausage with a prossie then things are not so cool.
Besides, do you really want mates like that?
I personally wouldnt want to be associated with anyone like that and other people might think you are a bit dodge too if you hang out with them.
 
MyAdsl dropped my previous post - arrrgh!

alanf85 said:
I've shown how foolhardy your 'my word no matter what' mentality can be.
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You have not shown anything of the sort. What universe do you live in? All you have done is create a bunch of make believe scenarios that range from pets to marauding rapists.

alanf85 said:
You avoid those scenarios because you've got yourself in a pickle.
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What pickle? Were you serious when you asked if I would give my word to a marauding rapist? Do I have to answer that? Well I will state the obvious for you, I will tell the rapist, "Hell NO!" and be off to the cops. You probably would tell him that his secret is safe with you and then be off to the cops as well. Difference being that in your own mind you consider yourself a hero for doing the right thing but in fact you were too much of a coward to tell him what your intentions were in the first place.

alanf85 said:
Perhaps you took to mush drugs or were even born that way but thank god I don't know you personally.
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I took drugs, made love to women and hell I still smoke the shisha pipe. Seems like you are bitter about missing out on free love and free drugs - that probably explains your phobia of hippies. Maybe you should have lived some - it might have stopped you from being so damn constipated.

Ditto about not knowing you personally - the old saying, "with friends like these who needs enemies?" describes you quite nicely.
 
Fk this "male rule".. When someones life may be at risk just so someone can have a little "fun". Expose liars for what they are. If you don't you actually aren't doing them any favours in the long run anyway.. In future Id say straight out tho, that I will not lie, and I'll point out the reasons for the guy. He can't argue with the logic behind them. If he wants to sleep with other woman then he should be open about it to anyone who he is in a relationship with. Ask him if he would be understanding if she had sex with a guy and gave him aids. Ask him if you are supposed to lie for her too. Tell him he has put you in an impossible position.
 
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killadoob said:
ok lets say your good buddies with a guy and havea good group of guy friends

so one night u go out on a jol with a friend who takes you to what you think is a strip club until you realize its actually a whore house asian style

your both wasted on pills he asks you not to say anything u agree, you go with him to buy condoms and what not

now my fiancee is like best friends with his g/f

so i told my fiancee about this and she told his g/f

now this oke is mad with me because i told everyone that he screwed a whore

my thinking is this, if i left it and my fiancee found out 3 months later would she believe i never screwed a whore

what would you guys have done?

i feel bad about saying i would not say anything and then i said something but at the same time i dont think its right to cheat on your g/f with a possibly aids infected whore

anyways his g/f does not believe me and thinks im talking crap because he told her he went for a massage

now my friend has not come to me and said im sorry for putting you in that position, he is just mad because i told my fiancee who told his g/f

do you think i broke some sort of man code? i dont mind lying about going to strips clubs and getting a lap dance and what not but i cannot look at his g/f knowing my buddie (ex buddie) screwed a whore

now its seems alot of my other guy friends are not happy about me saying something
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This is why friends don't take friends like you with them, they take friends like me with :D
 
If you feel so strongly about your friends actions then why didn't you protest against him and try to stop him at the time? If you didn't then who are you to suddenly grow some moral fibre and tell your gf. Your inaction or lack of protest was as good as an approval to your friend to sleep with a hooker and thus you are just as guilty of your friend cheating on his gf as he is.

Also, as a friend worried about whether he might spread STDs to his gf, how about thinking about the risk your friend took by sleeping with a prostitute. Surely if you were his 'friend' you would look out for his health as well?

Lastly, what did you think was going to happen by telling your gf? You knew she would tell her friend, so were you aiming to break up their relationship?

You can blame the pills for your lack of judgement at the time but then you can only blame yourself for taking them in the first place.
 
of course i can blame the pills for lack of judgement

your right i can blame myself for taking them but i thought it was a night of clubbing and not a night of screwing hookers

had i known before i double dropped that we would end up at a hooker joint i would have rather stayed at home

ok so anyways in short i know that i was wrong to say nothing and then say something, this is something that wont happen again as none of my other friends would ever even think about taking one another to a hooker joint

one lost friend, maybe a few other angry friends but it will blow over in a few months and i will see where im at
 
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killadoob said:
of course i can blame the pills for lack of judgement

your right i can blame myself for taking them but i thought it was a night of clubbing and not a night of screwing hookers

had i known before i double dropped that we would end up at a hooker joint i would have rather stayed at home

ok so anyways in short i know that i was wrong to say nothing and then say something, this is something that wont happen again as none of my other friends would ever even think about taking one another to a hooker joint

one lost friend, maybe a few other angry friends but it will blow over in a few months and i will see where im at
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Nope, you will still have all your friends.


You just won't be asked to go out with them again ;)
You went against all that is Sacred and Holy, you pimp'd on a friend. That is not on no matter how you try and justify it. You ratted him out. You deserve to be stuck with your GF every weekend from this day onwards :(
 
Bit harsh thats like the 'Bro Code's' version of a life sentence without parole.:p
 
dude i have been out with my friends the last 3 weekends

alot of them understand why i did what i did but are just not happy

if what i did means nobody will ever go to a hooker with me, then great

pitbull i have been through alot of stuff with my friends, teazers some of them wanting other women and i have stepped in told then no no your drunk
they had the same with me so its not like im not trust worthy

they have never had a reason not to trust me apart from now, maybe thats the reason my friend felt he could do this and i would not say anything, even if i agreed to it

yup i did pimp on a friend and man i regret it now

o well life goes on
 
killadoob said:
dude i have been out with my friends the last 3 weekends

alot of them understand why i did what i did but are just not happy

if what i did means nobody will ever go to a hooker with me, then great

pitbull i have been through alot of stuff with my friends, teazers some of them wanting other women and i have stepped in told then no no your drunk

they have never had a reason not to trust me apart from now, maybe thats the reason my friend felt he could do this and i would not say anything

yup i did pimp on a friend and man i regret it now

o well life goes on
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No worries one needs to make mistakes to learn.

Just remember one thing which is very very true.

Girls come and go, wifes come and go, friends are all you have that will never leave your side. That is so very true and one thing I actually did learn from my dad :o
 
Basically your friend never gave you a choice of being honest AND maintaining your friendship. He gave you an ultimatum. None of my friends have sex with hookers, or cheat on their gf's, and we always make a big deal out of going to strip clubs etc we tell the stories infront of the gf's. Its funny. I really can't relate.
 
i wish someone had told me that before my moment of stupidness
yea pit, i have learnt this the hard way


thrown my name away, destroyed a friendship over a hooker

from now on, i dont give a crap, whats makes this even worse is his chick didnt even believe me, which i should have thought might happen

so not only did i throw my name away, im branded a liar and have something against him which i dont plus we will never be friends

so yea if ppl want a lesson in life

stay out of other ppl's business even if your directly involved and keep your word no matter what
 
killadoob you'd be regretting it a forkload more if you hadn't told your fiance.

Pitbull said:
No worries one needs to make mistakes to learn.

Just remember one thing which is very very true.

Girls come and go, wifes come and go, friends are all you have that will never leave your side. That is so very true and one thing I actually did learn from my dad :o
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Are you married Pitbull?
 
killadoob said:
i wish someone had told me that before my moment of stupidness
yea pit, i have learnt this the hard way


thrown my name away, destroyed a friendship over a hooker

from now on, i dont give a crap, whats makes this even worse is his chick didnt even believe me, which i should have thought might happen

so not only did i throw my name away, im branded a liar and have something against him which i dont plus we will never be friends

so yea if ppl want a lesson in life

stay out of other ppl's business even if your directly involved and keep your word no matter what
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Personaly I would not have been able to attend their wedding knowing that he had cheated on her with a whore... i wouldn't have been able to live with my self.

You did her a favor because next time she will realise that he is a bastard and you will save her a life of misery.

I think that there are times when you should tell the person and other times when there is no point. I think that when two people are enggaged to be maried you should speak out...

What kind of a **** friend puts you in that situation anyway...
 
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