@Speedster my 430m also came with a splitter cable that @biometrics is referring to. @biometrics Communicate said they should have stock by the end of the week. Thanks for the help
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Same with my 860p. In addition to that I also got a spare DC connector with a pre-soldered piece of wire for if you want to make up your own cable.
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Hello everyone. This is probably my first post ever on this forum, even though I have been reading along quite a while.
I took your advice on the Ratel 860P and would like to let you know that I found a company called "Security and More" on www.bidorbuy.co.za who sells them, and still has some stock. I confirmed this with him this morning. Here is the link if you are keen,
www.bidorbuy.co.za
I hope this helps.
I took your advice on the Ratel 860P and would like to let you know that I found a company called "Security and More" on www.bidorbuy.co.za who sells them, and still has some stock. I confirmed this with him this morning. Here is the link if you are keen,
Ratel 860P Micro DC UPS-Powers Fibre CPE & Modem and USB output ! | bobshop.co.za
Buy Ratel 860P Micro DC UPS-Powers Fibre CPE & Modem and USB output ! for R1,695.00
I hope this helps.
Speedster
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Thanks for the contribution. At that price I would rather wait a week for communica's stock to land and save 33%.Hello everyone. This is probably my first post ever on this forum, even though I have been reading along quite a while.
I took your advice on the Ratel 860P and would like to let you know that I found a company called "Security and More" on www.bidorbuy.co.za who sells them, and still has some stock. I confirmed this with him this morning. Here is the link if you are keen,
Ratel 860P Micro DC UPS-Powers Fibre CPE & Modem and USB output ! | bobshop.co.za
Buy Ratel 860P Micro DC UPS-Powers Fibre CPE & Modem and USB output ! for R1,695.00
I hope this helps.
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1st post in 8yrs? Yikes, lemme be the first to give you a Like as wellHello everyone. This is probably my first post ever on this forum, even though I have been reading along quite a while.
I took your advice on the Ratel 860P and would like to let you know that I found a company called "Security and More" on www.bidorbuy.co.za who sells them, and still has some stock. I confirmed this with him this morning. Here is the link if you are keen,
Ratel 860P Micro DC UPS-Powers Fibre CPE & Modem and USB output ! | bobshop.co.za
Buy Ratel 860P Micro DC UPS-Powers Fibre CPE & Modem and USB output ! for R1,695.00
I hope this helps.
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With that dastardly load shedding back, I'm looking to power the following:
- Fibre CPE
- Asus RT-AC86u
- Huawei B618
Busy scanning through this thread - have some catchup to do, but maybe someone can just help me with this. Generally do these things still make the irritating beeping noise that you can't switch off? Or is that not a thing anymore? For example the Ratel 430S.
Looking for a solution for a friend to just power a router, but it's a small flat so any beeping is going to drive you insane in that small space.
Looking for a solution for a friend to just power a router, but it's a small flat so any beeping is going to drive you insane in that small space.
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Ratel is quiet.
Thanks. What's the difference between the 430P vs 430S. Looks like the 430S can do solar (which I don't care for) and Max output of 30W vs 15W that the P has. Again, just for a router the 430P should more than sufficient right?
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There are 6 or 7 models in the 860, 430 and 415 ranges. Last two digits indicates it max W output though the 430 and 415 have the same 8.8Ah batteries, 860 is 17.6Ah.
The P denotes that it has a POE port (not 802.3af compatible), the M had four 12V ports and the S can take a solar panel. They all have the 5V USB and 9/12V port (well the 860 and 430 has, don't know the 415 well). The 860 has everything.
I'd think the 430M or 860P would suit most people best.
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all UPS's will beep every 10 seconds or so to alert you to save your work and shutdown your computer etc etc, that is what a UPS is designed to do
an inverter is quiet until the 12v battery reaches around 10.5v and then it beeps to alert you
i do not think the Ratel is either and therefore probably dead quiet
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Might beep when it runs low though, don't know, only tested once she far and it only dropped 25%.
According to the one datasheet I read you can bridge those ports. So just connect two of them for 24V (you'll need a buck converter to step down to 19!); and can probably get away with splitting the other one for the other 2 devices, depending on their power needs.
I"m gonna buy myself the 6amp version - need to power a PoE AP via injector, and a switch as well as fibre and router, so I want more power. Plus reserve as I"m thinking of getting a couple of cameras.
Takealot don't have the 6.4 though. Which is a hassle.
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That router is a beast, you will probably need something bigger to power it. The UPS has max 3,2A output (40W total) which has to charge the battery and power the devices. The Asus router can use 33W on it's own at max power usage. It would be better to find a bigger UPS or have one for the Asus and one for the other 2 devices. Also note that with the standard 7Ah battery, you will probably struggle to run the Asus for 2 hours anyway (it will use about 2,8A at 12V so effectively you will get 1 hour runtime to 50% of battery capacity).
Something like this on the 12V output will give you 19V for the router. I am using similar to get 9V for my router and 5V USB output for charging.
Amazon.com: KNACRO Waterproof DC/DC 12V Step Up to 19V 3A 57W Voltage Boost Converter Regulator Transformer Power Supply for Car Truck Vehicle: Home Audio & Theater
Amazon.com: KNACRO Waterproof DC/DC 12V Step Up to 19V 3A 57W Voltage Boost Converter Regulator Transformer Power Supply for Car Truck Vehicle: Home Audio & Theater
www.amazon.com
Look at the power draw for the other 2 devices as well to get an idea of what size UPS you will need.
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Yeah the 6,4A version should be able to handle all those devices.
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From this spec sheet it seems to take a single, bigger (17Ah) battery.
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Seems quite expensive though. If you search for 12V CCTV UPS you get a lot of options.
Like http://www.ultratronics.co.za/index.php?route=product/product&path=54&product_id=122 for R400 which has a 10A output (120W). You also get them up to 20A which is 240W. That system will run all your internet devices and camera systems and more. If I have to replace mine I will get one of these bigger ones to ensure you can get the battery charged between load shedding slots. Can then also run lights etc off it.
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Is that a PSU or a UPS? Looks like a power supply to me?
Yes, it says a 17Ah battery. One site said 17/18. I asked earlier in the thread and someone confirmed that 2x 9Ah (wired in parallel) should be OK. (that's what I already have).
Er...
OK, so the TAL price is quite high, I've seen it much cheaper at other places. Still need to find out about stock though. Will report back.
My worry with the more powerful options is that they're physically bigger. I don't have that much space, in fact I think I'll be pushing it with this device. Considering laying it flat and leaving the batteries outside. One battery will already need to stay outside probably (not sure how much bigger a single 17 is than two 9's.)
Also, that Ultratronics you linked is just a PSU. It's not gonna switch from mains to batteries when the power drops. Most of the CCTV PSU's that I've found so far DON'T do that. Which is really what I'm after. Otherwise I could just wire the stuff to the battery myself.
That's what I was originally planning to do, which is why I already have a battery (plus an extra I harvested from a UPS). But I would've had to manually switch over.
And of course, since it's made to use a battery, it also includes a charger.
Edit: I am worried that the batteries won't be able to charge fully if we have frequent load shedding - but 18Ah is a lot of capacity, so hopefully it'll be ok.