SAINET

[Bandwidth]

Is that video calling or just voice chat?

My Skype problems were with just voice calls. I haven't even tried video calls. My Skype phone is plugged into an Afrihost account and working perfectly now, looks like I will make it through the whole month with one Gig so if this arrangement can work I will consider keeping my SAINET account. When I try a video call on Sainet I will let you know.

 

[Adrenalin]

Got my a/c today... not using skype or WoW. Torrent's are FLYING! I love it...

 

[Spooner]

I just started using them on thursday so I can't really comment. I'm on the uncapped solution including line rental. Torrent speeds are a bit erratic during the day but after hours (after like 11:00 or so) the speeds go up to max. Was extremely suprised when i woke up this morning to find that both the torrents i was downloading were finished. Will update within the next few days

 

[Rocket-Boy]

Local latencies on their network looks excellent and seems they are based somewhere in JHB/PTA probably JHB and making use of SAIX for local transit and they have their own layer2 transit over SEACOM I assume because later after hours the latencies to their website from Europe is around 233ms which looks like its SEACOM as opposed to SAT3 which should be around 170-190ms.

Unless they have moved their datacentre then they are still based in East London.
I know them and I have been to their offices a few times.

 

[Tinuva]

Unless they have moved their datacentre then they are still based in East London.
I know them and I have been to their offices a few times.

I have no doubt their offices are in East London, but that doesn't mean the network isn't in JHB area, which I am pretty sure it is. Besides, I think most of the network is built by Neology and not Sainet themselves. Ie. outsourced.

Doing a traceroute from CT:

traceroute www.sainet.co.za
traceroute to www.sainet.co.za (41.216.192.115), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  vl305.cr.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (196.220.59.129)  1.426 ms  1.621 ms  1.284 ms
 2  vl35.er.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (41.185.0.38)  2.289 ms  2.104 ms vl34.er.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (41.185.0.34)  2.181 ms
 3  upstream.vl101.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (196.220.59.226)  1.058 ms upstream.vl102.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (196.220.59.230)  1.740 ms upstream.vl101.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (196.220.59.226)  0.979 ms
 4  rrba-ip-hsll-1-gig-1-0-8.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.43.51.70)  25.388 ms  24.664 ms  24.841 ms
 5  ipinx-internet-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.25.110.46)  26.665 ms  25.102 ms  25.629 ms
 6  grzcr01-eth1.neoinx.net (41.216.193.1)  27.725 ms  28.521 ms  27.751 ms
 7  saicr02-eth1-212.neoinx.net (41.216.193.170)  28.678 ms  27.225 ms  27.793 ms
 8  41-216-192-115.neoinx.net (41.216.192.115)  28.250 ms  29.166 ms  28.426 ms

At hop 4 you can see it enters Rosebank (RRBA = Rosebank according to http://www.telkom.co.za/attheoffice/products/isdn/business_national_availability_gauteng.html) which is in Johannesburg (again the above link shows 011 as the national calling code) after which it enters the IPINX network (IPINX is also known as Neology according to www.peeringdb.com), not to mention the latency stays relatively the same after that which means the traffic definitely didn't go to East London...

 

[shiro]

Got my a/c today... not using skype or WoW. Torrent's are FLYING! I love it...

What kind of account did you get, uncapped? And whats your line speed? Want to get the uncapped but apparently the data only is only available from the 1st of April.

 

[cavedog]

I have no doubt their offices are in East London, but that doesn't mean the network isn't in JHB area, which I am pretty sure it is. Besides, I think most of the network is built by Neology and not Sainet themselves. Ie. outsourced.

Doing a traceroute from CT:

traceroute www.sainet.co.za
traceroute to www.sainet.co.za (41.216.192.115), 30 hops max, 52 byte packets
 1  vl305.cr.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (196.220.59.129)  1.426 ms  1.621 ms  1.284 ms
 2  vl35.er.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (41.185.0.38)  2.289 ms  2.104 ms vl34.er.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (41.185.0.34)  2.181 ms
 3  upstream.vl101.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (196.220.59.226)  1.058 ms upstream.vl102.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (196.220.59.230)  1.740 ms upstream.vl101.gw.cpt.za.wa.co.za (196.220.59.226)  0.979 ms
 4  rrba-ip-hsll-1-gig-1-0-8.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.43.51.70)  25.388 ms  24.664 ms  24.841 ms
 5  ipinx-internet-gw.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.25.110.46)  26.665 ms  25.102 ms  25.629 ms
 6  grzcr01-eth1.neoinx.net (41.216.193.1)  27.725 ms  28.521 ms  27.751 ms
 7  saicr02-eth1-212.neoinx.net (41.216.193.170)  28.678 ms  27.225 ms  27.793 ms
 8  41-216-192-115.neoinx.net (41.216.192.115)  28.250 ms  29.166 ms  28.426 ms

At hop 4 you can see it enters Rosebank (RRBA = Rosebank according to http://www.telkom.co.za/attheoffice/products/isdn/business_national_availability_gauteng.html) which is in Johannesburg (again the above link shows 011 as the national calling code) after which it enters the IPINX network (IPINX is also known as Neology according to www.peeringdb.com), not to mention the latency stays relatively the same after that which means the traffic definitely didn't go to East London...

Indeed. Neology bandwidth is also sold by openweb. Both these accounts are sold from their bandwidth. http://www.openweb.co.za/per_gb/

Where did webafica come into the story in the trace route. Strange.

Ohh and the offices might be in East London. It doesn't mean they have the bandwidth going through there since they are reselling neology bandwidth.

Peace.

 

[Adrenalin]

What kind of account did you get, uncapped? And whats your line speed? Want to get the uncapped but apparently the data only is only available from the 1st of April.

512k line, 384 uncapped option, data only.

traffic meter shows 1.4GB since yesterday 16:00 and i had about 5 hours of no downloading.

 

[shiro]

512k line, 384 uncapped option, data only.

traffic meter shows 1.4GB since yesterday 16:00 and i had about 5 hours of no downloading.

Ok, and you just applied online? Cause they said that 384, 512 and 1024 uncapped "data only" is only available from 1st April.

 

[Adrenalin]

Ok, and you just applied online? Cause they said that 384, 512 and 1024 uncapped "data only" is only available from 1st April.

yeah applied online dude. sent an email to the address provided and they sent me back the app form. voila.

 

[TrueTenacity]

Now if only there was a gadget for windows that could show your usage for the month....

 

[Adrenalin]

There is, i use NetMeter. quite cool, small, easy to use etc...

 

[Positively Negative]

ok all these uncapped options are getting me excited atleast....or should i not be? Realistically...what do you think the adsl uncapped market is gonna look like by the end of the year. Because im looking at going uncapped after the WC

 

[TheRoDent]

Now if only there was a gadget for windows that could show your usage for the month....

Sainet uncapped accounts should still show you your usage via their control panel, even though it is uncapped/zero rated.

 

[TrueTenacity]

Sainet uncapped accounts should still show you your usage via their control panel, even though it is uncapped/zero rated.

There is, i use NetMeter. quite cool, small, easy to use etc...

Yeah there are tools to do it... but that monitors it on your pc... I have a few devices running off the connection and unfortunately there is no bandwidth monitoring on my Router, so I was hoping there was something that I can get on my desktop to show the usage that SAINet is tracking...

 

[Pada]

Me and my friends got the 384kbps uncapped account and it said like 62GB remaining when we went into the user control panel. A couple of days later and we've reached 0 bytes left and the account stopped working I find it quite odd, since the account name ends with '@sainetuncap.net'. We'll query about this tomorrow.
I forgot to mention, that 384kbps account wasn't limited to 384kbps! We got like 3.5Mbps most of the time. Torrents were horrible though.

 

[Adrenalin]

Me and my friends got the 384kbps uncapped account and it said like 62GB remaining when we went into the user control panel. A couple of days later and we've reached 0 bytes left and the account stopped working I find it quite odd, since the account name ends with '@sainetuncap.net'. We'll query about this tomorrow.
I forgot to mention, that 384kbps account wasn't limited to 384kbps! We got like 3.5Mbps most of the time. Torrents were horrible though.

They say uncapped. They don't say 62GB. So if it stopped, i would throw my toys out the cot.

I sincerely hope mine doesn't do that. Having lots of fun with mine right now, torrents working well.

Does anyone use news servers with SAINET?

 

[Pada]

This is what we got as a response from the SAINET ticket that we've issued:

Unfortunately this account has been disabled due to bandwidth abuse. You have subscribed for 384k uncapped but your line is currently running at 4MB. Until this line is running at 384k this account cannot be reactivated.

This is just shocking to say the least.

 

[Adrenalin]

This is what we got as a response from the SAINET ticket that we've issued:

This is just shocking to say the least.

WTF!!!!!

Who's fault is it that the line is running at 4mb?! Shouldn't THEY control the line speed?

Anyway, my a/c just keeps saying invalid username / password

anyone else?

 

[shiro]

Got my account activated yesterday, so far everything has been going fine. I wonder if i'll also get cut off if i reach 62GB at 384 speeds. Downloaded 2GB so far since about 6pm yesterday.