Scottish Referendum on Independence

Should Scotland be an independent country?

  • Yes

    Votes: 59 53.2%

  • No

    Votes: 52 46.8%
  • Total voters
    111
  • Poll closed .
Nerfherder said:
This is what I don't get.

I'm happy for everyone to have their independence but what would they gain ?
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For one, they are in control of their own destiny. Do not underestimate the power of self determination. Reminds me of the saying, 'He might be an arsehole, but at least he's our arsehole' .

Secondly, the very English Tories will no longer rule over them again. They will have more Scottish Tories who will emerge with allegiance to Scotland, and not their English masters.

Think of how many people in KZN or EC who didn't bother voting at all because the ANC would win that province whatever they voted. The same way, no matter how the Scots vote in the elections, the English in the South will always decide who wins.

Foreign policy decisions will be very different also, with a more Canadian like approach rather than an Imperial one
 
Ninja'd said:
And then the Wall can be rebuilt properly to keep the wildlings in the north. :p
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Best post of the thread.

Border control may be an issue though. Scotland isn't guaranteed an opt out of the Schengen zone, as the UK and Ireland are. If EU citizens can enter Scotland without a passport check, the UK may need to set up checks at the Scottish border?

Does anyone know how the Republic of Ireland-Northern Ireland border works. SA citizens have visa free access to Ireland, but not the UK. Do they do checks at the border, or only when you try to enter mainland UK.
 
cr@zydude said:
Best post of the thread.

Border control may be an issue though. Scotland isn't guaranteed an opt out of the Schengen zone, as the UK and Ireland are. If EU citizens can enter Scotland without a passport check, the UK may need to set up checks at the Scottish border?

Does anyone know how the Republic of Ireland-Northern Ireland border works. SA citizens have visa free access to Ireland, but not the UK. Do they do checks at the border, or only when you try to enter mainland UK.
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They have neither. Walk in or out as you please (or swim :) )
 
imranpanji said:
For one, they are in control of their own destiny. Do not underestimate the power of self determination. Reminds me of the saying, 'He might be an arsehole, but at least he's our arsehole' .

Secondly, the very English Tories will no longer rule over them again. They will have more Scottish Tories who will emerge with allegiance to Scotland, and not their English masters.

Think of how many people in KZN or EC who didn't bother voting at all because the ANC would win that province whatever they voted. The same way, no matter how the Scots vote in the elections, the English in the South will always decide who wins.

Foreign policy decisions will be very different also, with a more Canadian like approach rather than an Imperial one
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Scotland has more labour than tories. Tories are the conservative party.
 
Talking about self determination, interesting fact #5672 is....

The Scottish votes have only influenced two UK elections in the last 100 years.
 
Less borders > more borders imo

I'm waiting for a one world government, removal of all borders and never having to deal with passports, visa or permits ever again

/off-topic
 
ghoti said:
Scotland has more labour than tories. Tories are the conservative party.
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Am well aware of that ghoti. Our people (the lefties) will be guaranteed control of Scotland for a short while whether it be SNP or Labour, and then the politics will take on the same pattern of left and right that we see worldwide.

There will emerge a conservative party at some point, or a version of the tories which will challenge the status quo, and it will be more successful as a party than the current conservative party
 
joelus said:
Less borders > more borders imo

I'm waiting for a one world government, removal of all borders and never having to deal with passports, visa or permits ever again

/off-topic
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I have a better shot at getting pregnant with twins than that happening.
 
[video=youtube;-YkLPxQp_y0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YkLPxQp_y0[/video]

So funny :D

I didnt realize most of the money for the Yes campaign came from lottery winners. The No campaigns largest sponsor is JK Rowling.
 
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Spizz said:
They have neither. Walk in or out as you please (or swim :) )
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Cool, so SA may not have visa free access to the UK, but Ireland seems like an interesting back door.

Legally enter the Republic without a visa. Cross into Northern Ireland, and then mainland UK without a visa check.

I see that Scotland has a republican movement too. My bet would be switching after Lizzie dies. No one wants Charles as a king.
 
cr@zydude said:
I see that Scotland has a republican movement too. My bet would be switching after Lizzie dies. No one wants Charles as a king.
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That woman us not gonna die any time soon. The next monarch is gonna be King George or whatever William has named his sprog
 
Leading financial spread better IG has put the chances that Scots will vote to remain in the Union at 81pc.
It said a survey of other spread betters and investor behaviour on its own platform indicated that investors believe the referendum is still far more likely to end with a 'No' vote.
Brenda Kelly, chief market strategist at the broker, said a straw poll of nearly 200 of IG's clients put even more weight behind the 'No' camp, with 88pc saying they think the Scots will stay.
IG's so-called 'binary trade' on Scottish independence, where investors bet on either a 'Yes' or 'No' outcome in this week's referendum, currently places far more probability on the 'No' vote.
But David Madden, market analyst at IG, said the Scottish referendum binary is "by far one of the most actively traded, and [with the] most balanced flow" that the spread better had ever seen, meaning that investors' predictions for the outcome are more deeply split than in past political events.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...um-Markets-put-chance-of-No-vote-at-81pc.html
 
[video=youtube_share;MZ35SOU9HTM]http://youtu.be/MZ35SOU9HTM[/video]
 
Scotland could be sitting on larger oil and gas reserves in the Scottish Firths than currently predicted, a new independent industry investigation has found. The investigation was undertaken by oilandgaspeople.com, the world’s largest oil and gas industry jobs board, and independent North Sea oil and gas industry experts. The investigation included interviews with industry experts and collated seismic and expert evidence from a range of independent sources such as the British Geological Survey, DECC, oil and gas companies, the Institute of Petroleum Engineering and the Energy Institute.

http://www.oilandgaspeople.com/news/1061/scottish-oil-and-gas-investigation-reveals-new-reserves/
 
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