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Sherbang said:
Well it was written by a white guy so I don't understand your statement "Whine all you want crying about my white privilege I will just sit back and laugh at your sense of entitlement". Also he specifically said

"But privilege talk is not intended to make a moral assessment or a moral claim about the privileged at all. It is about systemic imbalance. It is about injustices that have arisen because of the history of racism that birthed the way things are now. It’s not saying, “You’re a bad person because you’re white.” It’s saying, “The system is skewed in ways that you maybe haven’t realized or had to think about precisely because it’s skewed in your favor.”

So I think your assessment is incorrect.
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Here's a thought, could it be that the system privileges white people because it was designed and built by white people? I'm thinking specifically of the US now but, I'm sure this applies to SA too.
If you want to enjoy the fruits of the system you need to assimilate with the system.
That means speak the language of the system(English globally) , dress appropriately and follow the rules. In the east even the Chinese had to wear suits, learn English and learn western capitalism to become the power house that it is.
When you look at African Americans they mostly seem to dress like gangsters and talk bastardised English. Fine if you want to be a gangster or pop star but no one would or should give you a decent job if that's how you dress and speak.
 
Nick333 said:
Here's a thought, could it be that the system privileges white people because it was designed and built by white people? I'm thinking specifically of the US now but, I'm sure this applies to SA too.
If you want to enjoy the fruits of the system you need to assimilate with the system.
That means speak the language of the system(English globally) , dress appropriately and follow the rules. In the east even the Chinese had to wear suits, learn English and learn western capitalism to become the power house that it is.
When you look at African Americans they mostly seem to dress like gangsters and talk bastardised English. Fine if you want to be a gangster or pop star but no one would or should give you a decent job if that's how you dress and speak.
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Yes, I agree that the system privileges white people because it was designed and built by white people, for white people, of course.
 
faniedry said:
Apparently the worst. Nice job fanie digging this hole.

But where on that scale does one stop with things like AA & BEE?
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LOL

As I said, when we are not the worst, so maybe the 10th worst?
 
Sherbang said:
Yes, I agree that the system privileges white people because it was designed and built by white people, for white people, of course.
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Well to be more specific the system was designed for wasps and came to include Catholics of all sorts; Jews, Italians, Irish,Polish, Indians, Muslims, of all sorts, Arabs and Persians, Poles, Russians, East Asians etc. All of whom assimilated enough to prosper. All of them learnt the language and how to dress properly. Multiculturalism only works when the host culture takes precedence. And, the culture that attracts the most emulation globally is western Democratic capitalism. If you want the fruits of the system, fit into the system. Africanism doesn't work. There is no successful example.
 
saturnz said:
perhaps when we are not the most unequal society in the world
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*before tax and social grants
...IIRC. Actually I'm more intrigued how a thread about two celebs fighting lead to wealth distribution :p
 
faniedry said:
LOL but seriously, does the government have a plan, or do they just go "fck it, we'll see how it goes"... actually, nevermind, i think i already know the answer.
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you are welcome to contribute to their plans, attend or make submissions to parliamentary committee public hearings on policy and tell them how to better their existing strategies, these invitations are advertised in newspapers and on websites

thats how democracy works "for the people, by the people" incase you are wondering, you are that people
 
faniedry said:
LOL but seriously, does the government have a plan, or do they just go "fck it, we'll see how it goes"... actually, nevermind, i think i already know the answer.
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Sure they have a plan they just aren't very good at implementation or keeping their hands out the cookie jar.
 
Nick333 said:
Well to be more specific the system was designed for wasps and came to include Catholics of all sorts; Jews, Italians, Irish,Polish, Indians, Muslims, of all sorts, Arabs and Persians, Poles, Russians, East Asians etc. All of whom assimilated enough to prosper. All of them learnt the language and how to dress properly. Multiculturalism only works when the host culture takes precedence. And, the culture that attracts the most emulation globally is western Democratic capitalism. If you want the fruits of the system, fit into the system. Africanism doesn't work. There is no successful example.
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You seem quite obsessed with how people dress lol

What is Africanism is exactly?
 
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saturnz said:
you are welcome to contribute to their plans, attend or make submissions to parliamentary committee public hearings on policy and tell them how to better their existing strategies, these invitations are advertised in newspapers and on websites

thats how democracy works "for the people, by the people" incase you are wondering, you are that people
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Link please

Don't want to contribute, not my expertise... not theirs either?
 
@Grant

I was about pop in my Jaaag and join you old chap.
 
Sherbang said:
You seem quite obsessed with how people dress lol
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Well, if you look like a gangsta, act like a gangsta and talk like a gangsta and get shot like a gangsta then burn, smash and steal like a gangsta how you dress may be kinda important.

But, seriously that's all you have to say about my assertion that black culture is part of the problem of privilege?
 
faniedry said:
Link please

Don't want to contribute, not my expertise... not theirs either?
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It is not their expertise, they are not the experts, they rely on public submissions, we are all just people, nobody is perfect. Through the process of public participation they modify their policies since they rely on that feedback to do so.

But if the right people just sit around and don't take part in the process, bad people see an opportunity and exploit to the extent that you see now.

You can try http://www.pmg.org.za/ and www.parliament.gov.za as a start.
 
faniedry said:
LOL but seriously, does the government have a plan, or do they just go "fck it, we'll see how it goes"... actually, nevermind, i think i already know the answer.
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If you're going to rely on the government alone to make this country a better place to live in then you'll be disappointed. That's true anywhere in the world. There are many role players including local communities, business, ngos, charities and ordinary individuals who can, and do, make the biggest difference. Thinking that your vote and paying taxes is the only contribution you need to make to creating a better country is a mistake, imo. Maybe it should be enough but it isn't. Your future and the future of your children depend on the choices we make today, and choosing to depend on the government alone to create that future is bad for all of us.
 
Sherbang said:
What is Africanism is exactly?
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My term for the belief that there is an African way of doing things that is compatible with successfully being part of there global economy and uplifting and empowering people. Mbeki spoke of African democracy if I remember correctly. As if there ever was such a thing.
 
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