The Bodybuilders Thread!

[StrontiumDog]

nope



dude bought whole birds didn't he? for R36/kg

As this is a bodybuilding thread and not a literacy thread, I shall forgive your oversight

 

[Orihalcon]

hmm well no it's not as good a deal as you can get considering even just my post? you can buy a whole bird for R27/kg at pnp. R9/kg less than you paid. 9x72 = a lot of pennies that didn't get stretched
even woolworths pieces works out to the same as what you paid but it's probably better quality and not brined

why do you buy so much at one time anyway? big family? lots of poultry parties? if that's just for you how long does it last?

sorry I'm still kinda reeling from that much chicken. it's the weight of a normal person. in CHICKEN. lol

I've done the math. Your argument is flawed.

Example. Let's take the humble chicken breast pack I can buy at R28.99 per kg. The piece of the bird with the most meat . After having cooked, cleaned and removed bone and cartilage, how much actual meat do you think comes out of a chicken breast?

I'll tell you. A raw 410g chicken breast yielded a total of 245g of cooked meat. That's right. Almost half the weight in skin, bone, offal and cartilage. I've done the counts on about 100kg worth of breasts over months as that was my primary source of chicken. That % holds true accross the average.

I also did the math on a whole chicken. Laughable. Let's say there is a reason they are so much cheaper.

Now factor in that even using brined chicken fillets like I do, I get about 720g of cooked meat from a kg.

Sure, on paper the pieces are cheaper. But factor in cooked meat weight , the EFFORT in deboning kilos of breasts, the extra cooking time and prep time...well. I need not go on. At R35.90 my fillets beats out any other chicken special by far.

Yes. I am that OCD that I do the cost/benefit ratio calculations on all my meals factoring in cooking time and the like. As I said. I stretch my pennies.

 

[CodeMaster]

Yip, whole chicken you pay for the carcass.
It's a good price for fillets, and I wouldn't stress too much about the brine.
I just wouldn't cook it with added salt

Are you really eating ± 800g of chicken fillet per day?

OT - I just wanted to order Whey, and I see ChromeShop now has Nutritech at R699, thats an increase of R80 /3.2kg

 

[RandomDesign]

I hereby issue my humblest of humbles. I thought it was whole birds. that's also why I was not understanding the logic.

 

[Orihalcon]

I hereby issue my humblest of humbles. I thought it was whole birds. that's also why I was not understanding the logic.

Hehe. My apologies if my post came off as antagonizing! Was not the intent if perceived as such.
I would not usually buy such a large quantity, but I cannot get out to the shop to stock up on a regular basis. Usually I would go every other week...having to fight traffic, take extended lunches to make the drive which I had to work back in later.

Now I buy bulk and just go every 3 or 4 months. saves on fuel ^_^

 

[Orihalcon]

Yip, whole chicken you pay for the carcass.
It's a good price for fillets, and I wouldn't stress too much about the brine.
I just wouldn't cook it with added salt

Are you really eating ± 800g of chicken fillet per day?

OT - I just wanted to order Whey, and I see ChromeShop now has Nutritech at R699, thats an increase of R80 /3.2kg

Between 400g and 600g depending on whether I do egg and chicken for breakfast. Lunch and supper is always chicken when I go on a clean eating diet. Chicken on a daily brah, not even once! Eish this gym speak jargon.

You can try XtremeNutrition as well for Nutritech. They are still R599 last time I checked couple weeks back

 

[Bulldog_imported]

I see Biogen whey protein is well priced at the moment from dischem, I think I paid R699 but it's for 3kg compared to the Evox, similar price but 2.2kg. Evox has a higher protein yield though and lower carbs per serving.

 

[APoc184]

@orihalcon

How do you prepare those fillets most of the times?

Steam? Baked? Boiled?

And any spices?

 

[Orihalcon]

@orihalcon

How do you prepare those fillets most of the times?

Steam? Baked? Boiled?

And any spices?

Oven tray, maybe half a cm of hot water, pepper, BBQ and chilli or cayenne pepper spice and oven on 200'C.

Takes all of 12min to cook to perfection. I usually prep between 2 and 3 kg at a time.

After they're cooked I let them drain / rest and package in meal portions.

The water keeps the chicken moist. Even after reheating the chicken in the micro it's not cardboard dry. Still nice and juicy.

 

[Forza]

Should i cut/get lean (lose some belly fat) or continue bulking during the beach day?

So I started gyming last month after 6 months out. I've been bulking, looking to gain my old weight before I stopped. I was 84kg with 11%bf. I picked up 2 kgs in this past 2 months. I currently weigh 80kg with about 16% bf, im what I call "T-Shirt Gebou".

Now my initial plan is to gain 90kg and cut down to 85kg end of next year with about 10% bf. Should I continue bulking during December to ensure I reach my goal nxt year or Should I reduce my body fat especially around my mid section thereby reducing my body weight because summer is around and beach days are near for December.

The only problem is when cutting I tend to lose a lot of mass around my legs which I'm afraid of. I'm thinking about cutting my carbs out in one of my meals if i do decide to get lean a bit and do some cardio.

 

[Hemps]

So I started gyming last month after 6 months out. I've been bulking, looking to gain my old weight before I stopped. I was 84kg with 11%bf. I picked up 2 kgs in this past 2 months. I currently weigh 80kg with about 16% bf, im what I call "T-Shirt Gebou".

Now my initial plan is to gain 90kg and cut down to 85kg end of next year with about 10% bf. Should I continue bulking during December to ensure I reach my goal nxt year or Should I reduce my body fat especially around my mid section thereby reducing my body weight because summer is around and beach days are near for December.

The only problem is when cutting I tend to lose a lot of mass around my legs which I'm afraid of. I'm thinking about cutting my carbs out in one of my meals if i do decide to get lean a bit and do some cardio.

Thats what I'm doing, abs are made in the kitchen so have been dieting like a mad man.
Sucks being hungry all the time BUT so far dropped 3kg, I'm at 74kg now.

Strength doesn't seem to have been effected, last night I cracked 160kg 1 rep on deadlift.
5x5 t-bar rows with 80kg.

Want to start running again to drop that extra weight around abs. 2 weeks left till beach time!

 

[Forza]

Thats what I'm doing, abs are made in the kitchen so have been dieting like a mad man.
Sucks being hungry all the time BUT so far dropped 3kg, I'm at 74kg now.

Strength doesn't seem to have been effected, last night I cracked 160kg 1 rep on deadlift.
5x5 t-bar rows with 80kg.

Want to start running again to drop that extra weight around abs. 2 weeks left till beach time!

Agree with you on that. Lots of people say they want abs and they are doing ab workouts and cardio but when asking what there diet is, it's non-existant.

Thing is I'm not looking to get abs now just reducing my belly fat. If i was looking for abs I should of tweaked my diet and workout 3 months ago (This I'll do next year when I reach my desired weight). I'm just worried about losing mass in the areas I'm not looking to lose any such as legs and back.

What's your current diet like?

 

[Hemps]

Agree with you on that. Lots of people say they want abs and they are doing ab workouts and cardio but when asking what there diet is, it's non-existant.

Thing is I'm not looking to get abs now just reducing my belly fat. If i was looking for abs I should of tweaked my diet and workout 3 months ago (This I'll do next year when I reach my desired weight). I'm just worried about losing mass in the areas I'm not looking to lose any such as legs and back.

What's your current diet like?

Chicken, Chicken, more chicken , red meat before big lifts like deadlift, squat.
Basmati Rice about twice a week thats my main carbs for the week maybe microwaved potato.
Salads and lots veg at every meal.

Oats and coffee with honey for breakfast.
Protein shake
Mid morning apple
Lunch - chicken and salad
Mid afternoon - Apple, banana
Workout
Protein shake
Supper - lean red meat and veg, maybe white rice or potato.

NO sugar or alcohol.

Not the best but working for me at present so why change.

 

[Forza]

Chicken, Chicken, more chicken , red meat before big lifts like deadlift, squat.
Basmati Rice about twice a week thats my main carbs for the week maybe microwaved potato.
Salads and lots veg at every meal.

Oats and coffee with honey for breakfast.
Protein shake
Mid morning apple
Lunch - chicken and salad
Mid afternoon - Apple, banana
Workout
Protein shake
Supper - lean red meat and veg, maybe white rice or potato.

NO sugar or alcohol.

Not the best but working for me at present so why change.

As mentioned I'm bulking so I'm having carbs in all my meals.
06:30 Oats and 6 eggs
09:30 Chicken and rice
12:30 Chicken and rice
15:30 Chicken and rice
16:30 Workout (Pre-Workout: BCAA & Creating; Post-Workout: Crea-Mass)
18:30 Steak and mashed potatoe
21:30 Oats & eggs/Shake

I really need to incorporate more veggies in my diet and some more fats.

I do do sugar but drink still but only like twice a month. Don't drink beers or any gas drinks though.

Will definately have to refine my diet next year by eating enough veggies and fats - getting me multivitamins and some good oils.

 

[APoc184]

If you guys spot any secondhand 20kg x 2 weight plates at a good price in Pretoria please let me know.

I have run out of weights. Stuck at 120kg deadlifts because I don't have enough weights.

Cash Converters closeby has a bar, 2x 20kg plates and 2 x 5kg plates for sale at R1000. But the bar and 5kg plates are all rusted. And the manager doesn't want to sell me just the 2 x 20kg plates at a reduced price.

 

[Deadmanza]

Going back to gym tonight after a looong sabbatical, so nervous, I know I am not going to be able to lift anywhere near what I was

 

[Joe505]

As mentioned I'm bulking so I'm having carbs in all my meals.
06:30 Oats and 6 eggs
09:30 Chicken and rice
12:30 Chicken and rice
15:30 Chicken and rice
16:30 Workout (Pre-Workout: BCAA & Creating; Post-Workout: Crea-Mass)
18:30 Steak and mashed potatoe
21:30 Oats & eggs/Shake

I really need to incorporate more veggies in my diet and some more fats.

I do do sugar but drink still but only like twice a month. Don't drink beers or any gas drinks though.

Will definately have to refine my diet next year by eating enough veggies and fats - getting me multivitamins and some good oils.

How do you manage to eat all that Chicken and rice?? :erm:

But thats where I am trying to get. Can only manage chicken for lunch and dinner atm.

 

[Forza]

How do you manage to eat all that Chicken and rice?? :erm:

But thats where I am trying to get. Can only manage chicken for lunch and dinner atm.

My 09:30 and 12:30 meals i must have because I'm hungry hungry. The 15:30 i sometimes struggle to eat but then i force feed myself. I sit with my meal and just keep on picking at it. At times it would take me close to a half an hour to finish that meal because of how slow i would eat.

Ya look it takes time to change your metabolism. But once you do, you won't eat just because you want to gain but eat because you are actually hungry.

How often do you eat a day? Start by having 6 meals a day but in quite small portions and as your metabolism increases you adjust your portions.

 

[Forza]

Going back to gym tonight after a looong sabbatical, so nervous, I know I am not going to be able to lift anywhere near what I was

How long have you been out of the gym? Returning to gym after a long break is not good because the weights which you pushed easily feel just so much heavier. After my loooong sabbatical I am still 10kgs per dumbell off on my dumbbell presses and shoulder presses. And 20kg per side off on my Squats and deadlift. But in time I'll get my strength back

 

[Deadmanza]

How long have you been out of the gym? Returning to gym after a long break is not good because the weights which you pushed easily feel just so much heavier. After my loooong sabbatical I am still 10kgs per dumbell off on my dumbbell presses and shoulder presses. And 20kg per side off on my Squats and deadlift. But in time I'll get my strength back

2 - 3 months.

I wasn't going very heavy - 120KG Benchpress, 140KG Deadlift.

Hoping to at least be comfortable with 80KG Bench and 100KG Deadlift.