USB 3.0 shaking things up

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Would be awesome if it replaced those annoying, tiny, odd shaped Sata cables. I hate stuff that only bends in certain directions.
 
Electronics are just getting faster and faster. I can't wait for the day when households have their own personal robots that sweep, dust, and fry eggs.
 
I think USB2 will be here for some time still...plenty flashdrives out there.
 
Bring it on!!

So glad I got an Asus motherboard with 2 X USB 3.0 ports.

Want to get a nice, big fat external hard drive with 3.0 support.
 
Now if only you could plug it in whichever way!!!!

I always pick the wrong side when i have to stretch behind my pc.....aaaargggh!
 
drukkie said:
Now if only you could plug it in whichever way!!!!

I always pick the wrong side when i have to stretch behind my pc.....aaaargggh!
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Yeah, is a bit annoying, cos I must always check for the USB 3.0 ports - they are blue, instead of the normal black.
 
Archie1 said:
Then there's Light Peak .
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/15/intel-says-light-peak-coming-next-year-can-and-will-coexist-wit/
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/light-peak-coming-to-the-mac-in-2011/8607
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Looks promising with both Intel and Apple behind Light Peak, just a shame that Intel wasted time and effort on WIMAX instead of getting Light Peak out there before USB3.

Still OK though since USB3 devices are not ubiquitous yet.

Light Peak motherboards and devices will need to get onto the market in the next three to six months before people heavily commit to USB3 only motherboards (once that happens they will rather wait for Light Peak to mature before upgrading again).
 
Light Peak, once it's finished will be around for a long time and probably take over everything due to it's awesome data transfer rate and flexibility. It also has potential to upgrade speeds even further so it's very future proof.
 
j4ck455 said:
Looks promising with both Intel and Apple behind Light Peak, just a shame that Intel wasted time and effort on WIMAX instead of getting Light Peak out there before USB3.

Still OK though since USB3 devices are not ubiquitous yet.

Light Peak motherboards and devices will need to get onto the market in the next three to six months before people heavily commit to USB3 only motherboards (once that happens they will rather wait for Light Peak to mature before upgrading again).
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WiMAX has been considered a success for Intel. It's in South Africa that it isn't (relatively) because of the useless government + ICASA combo of protecting the cash-cows.
 
UnUnOctium said:
[highlight]WiMAX has been considered a success for Intel.[/highlight] It's in South Africa that it isn't (relatively) because of the useless government + ICASA combo of protecting the cash-cows.
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How many WIMAX embedded Intel motherboards have been sold to date world wide?
 
j4ck455 said:
How many WIMAX embedded Intel motherboards have been sold to date world wide?
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Lol, Intel's main focus wasn't on pushing WiMAX transceivers integrated into mobos. Their point was to get their research into the standards (royalties for every transceiver). A WiMAX mobo is almost useless (unless it has an external antenna) since you'll have to be very near the base station and that's opposite the point of WiMAX (high-speed, wide coverage). For mobile WiMAX you buy a PCMCIA card (Intel lolz) with some form of antenna, even if it's a small, whip one.
 
UnUnOctium said:
Lol, [highlight]Intel's main focus wasn't on pushing WiMAX transceivers integrated into mobos.[/highlight] Their point was to get their research into the standards (royalties for every transceiver). A WiMAX mobo is almost useless (unless it has an external antenna) since you'll have to be very near the base station and that's opposite the point of WiMAX (high-speed, wide coverage). For mobile WiMAX you buy a PCMCIA card (Intel lolz) with some form of antenna, even if it's a small, whip one.
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The motivation for pushing WIMAX as a standard is obviously monetary for Intel, I don't know about royalties on every WIMAX transceiver not manufactured and trademarked by Intel but I take your word for it.

All I'm saying is Intel did make a lot of hooha about how pervasive WIMAX would be after new Intel motherboards come with a WIMAX embedded chipset, will WIMAX reach the critical mass (outside of South Africa) that Intel predicted or did Intel waste its time when it could have spent time and money on other stuff like Light Peak that has the potential to be much more lucrative for Intel than WIMAX?
 
j4ck455 said:
The motivation for pushing WIMAX as a standard is obviously monetary for Intel, I don't know about royalties on every WIMAX transceiver not manufactured and trademarked by Intel but I take your word for it.

All I'm saying is Intel did make a lot of hooha about how pervasive WIMAX would be after new Intel motherboards come with a WIMAX embedded chipset, will WIMAX reach the critical mass (outside of South Africa) that Intel predicted or did Intel waste its time when it could have spent time and money on other stuff like Light Peak that has the potential to be much more lucrative for Intel than WIMAX?
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That's the thing, royalties are guaranteed, no-risk profit. They know that there's specialist companies well established which would develop the WiMAX hardware (Alvarion, Qualcomm, Broadcom, etc.), they didn't aim to take on the specialists at their own game. They wanted their R&D to file patents for key concepts/inventions which they thought would (and got) pushed through by the IEEE 802.16 working group as part of the WiMAX standards.

A great example to this is Qualcomm and W-CDMA (and other forms of CDMA). Every manufacturer which makes a W-CDMA/TD-CDMA/anything CDMA based (HSPA uses it) has to pay Qualcomm x USD for every single handset it makes.

WiMAX is very popular outside of SA. Pretty much anywhere with low population density (i.e. more 'rural' suburbs) WiMAX has been used instead of copper/fibre. Ironically, SA is an ideal candidate because not only is copper expensive here, but Telkom even refuses to install lines themselves.

I think Light Peak is riskier for Intel than WiMAX was since at the inception of WiMAX there were no competing technologies, Light Peak on the other hand has USB, FireWire, eSATA, etc.
 
UnUnOctium said:
I think Light Peak is riskier for Intel than WiMAX was since at the inception of WiMAX there were no competing technologies, Light Peak on the other hand has USB, FireWire, eSATA, etc.
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I'm not so sure (Apple is also behind Light Peak), if Light Peak works it will coexist with and eventually replace USB3 (unless something better than Light Peak gets traction in the market place).

Success of a technology is not necessarily based on how good it is compared to other technologies of similar ilk, usually success is determined by the pervasiveness of devices using that technology, an example being the sheer numbers of USB1&2 devices.

USB3 and Light Peak don't have that critical mass yet, but USB3 will likely be around for a long time due to backwards compatibility with USB1&2 devices. Light Peak might be better long term but it has stiff medium term competition.

WIMAX took a long time to solidify into standards and faced lots of delays whilst competing technologies found traction in the market. I just don't think WIMAX has enough critical mass to last long enough and be considered a successful technology. I will probably be proved wrong.
 
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