Vindication for the racists

Are we really that coward to be held at ransom in our own country? There is no place like home, no matter where you emigrate to.

So let us all pull together and fight for what we believe is ours, nothing ventured, nothing gained. There is a lot at stake for all of us, so therefore we need to take this responsibility as a collective.

This is no more a black/white issue but each and every South African responsibility.
 
ironrod said:
Here I am, not seething venom, but actually acknowledge the fact that we, the great black nation has messed up big time. It take a grown-@!! man to acknowledge that and that is the only way that one allows oneself to learn and therefore become a wiser man.

What we see now are implications of what happened 13 years ago when we took over. There was a lot of mismanagement from then, so therefore the situation we are in today.

There was no hand over of tasks but more of a brute force "give me what is mine" type of power struggle.

There was a lot of skills lose due to that, from the level of the guavamint ivory towers to the mere companies.

So how do we pick up the ball and go for a try?
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change the government. they are incapable of doing anything right, and they have the country now for 13 years and it's been one disaster after the other each year.
 
ironrod said:
Look at Mr Jackie Selebi, whose neighbors are being killed just a few metres from his residence.
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The Mr is unearned. But I agree with the rest.

ironrod said:
Here I am, not seething venom, but actually acknowledge the fact that we, the great black nation has messed up big time.
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You don't seem to qualify for the "ANC Camp" :D
The "ANC Camp" has one rule: "The ANC is right".


Thank you for your posts - well spoken, and you really do seem to want to make a change - but I am afraid the time is over.

If Jacob Zuma and his band of followers came in here and said "Watch me", and then went out, immediately, and on national TV read off the list of responsible people and ended with "all the above are fired effective immediately" - now that would be a good start to "score a try".
 
60%+ of the population still believe the people in the present guavamint, Mbeki's, are doing a great job.

It is a known fact that the majority of the guys out there are gullible when it comes to voting, so another option is to force them somehow, through action not words and not complaints through forums, to be accountable for everything they do with our Tax Money.
 
ironrod said:
60%+ of the population still believe the people in the present guavamint, Mbeki's, are doing a great job.

It is a known fact that the majority of the guys out there are gullible when it comes to voting, so another option is to force them somehow, through action not words and not complaints through forums, to be accountable for everything they do with our Tax Money.
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How, where they are immune to the 40% (more likely 20%).
Of which less that 5% will stand up in whatever fashion and voice their differences?

The problem is, the 5% are seen in the light of being "anti SA" if non-white, and "racist whingers" if white. One can hardly fight that tide.
 
ironrod said:
60%+ of the population still believe the people in the present guavamint, Mbeki's, are doing a great job.

It is a known fact that the majority of the guys out there are gullible when it comes to voting, so another option is to force them somehow, through action not words and not complaints through forums, to be accountable for everything they do with our Tax Money.
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Democracy is the best political system for the ANC since most of the population is illiterate and gullible to people like Jacob Zuma etc.
 
I have just heard on the news now that our "Beloved" ANC guavamint is seriously contemplating dissolving the NPA into the ever inefficient and corrupt SAPS.

A country without an independent prosecution and efficient investigating body is setting itself for a catastrophe.

Australia please open your doors and welcome a young Black man.
 
BabyFlem said:
if you dont like black SA ...TO bad
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There are a lot of blacks out there saying they had it better under apartheid rule!

At least they had jobs,weren't overrun by illegal immigrants,and generally had a higher standard of living.
Saw a article the other day stating that the average South African (that includes blacks as well)are poorer today than 20 years ago.

This comment does not mean that i am a racist or that i advocate going back to apartheid.

What i am saying is that the management of the country was in more capable hands before.

At long last affirmative action turned around like a rabid dog and bit the economy.

May i remind you that you are also part of this economy.........
and i will wager my last US dollar in my offshore account that within the next 6 months you will feel the effects of the New Black(Or should that be Dark!) South Africa as well.

And yes, we do not like black South Africa,if this is the way you guys are running the country.
 
Is there anything that can be done by the average black South African to remedy this situation, right now?

Is there any power in their hands that could assist in twisting the guavamint hand?
 
ironrod said:
Are we really that coward to be held at ransom in our own country? There is no place like home, no matter where you emigrate to.

So let us all pull together and fight for what we believe is ours, nothing ventured, nothing gained. There is a lot at stake for all of us, so therefore we need to take this responsibility as a collective.

This is no more a black/white issue but each and every South African responsibility.
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Until the people realise that the Govt is THEIR SERVANT, and not THEIR LEADER. The elected govt is there to carry out the wishes of the people (within reason) and manage the PEOPLES money and enhance the country using THE PEOPLES money FOR THE PEOPLE.

Until the Govt get out of the 'I am mightier' , I am really afraid for SA. The people will get p1ssed off eventually, and it wont be a nice ending.
 
ironrod said:
Is there anything that can be done by the average black South African to remedy this situation, right now?

Is there any power in their hands that could assist in twisting the guavamint hand?
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Well the burning of 6 trains by commuters is a good start...
 
Is Zuma guavamint going to do anything positive for this country? I doubt it, judging by what they want to do the NPA. They are just beginning to flex their muscles, only if we let them by not publicly boycotting their action. Remember Zuma and his cronies have not being voted into SA guavamint but they want to dissolve the NPA,huhhh??
 
ironrod said:
That is a stupid way, in todays way of life, of showing power.

We need more "evolved" ways of showing our disgruntlement.
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agreed but it's affective... The public en masse should refuse to pay there water and lights but unless it's done en masse it won't have the desired affect.
 
ironrod said:
That is a stupid way, in todays way of life, of showing power.

We need more "evolved" ways of showing our disgruntlement.
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Agreed, but it seems it works for the mindset of the current government, after all they protested in that fashion.

I wonder how long before it becomes more than just burning trains? While I do not advocate violence to resolve an issue, it seems that there is certainly a simmering ferment building and it'll only take one spark to set the thing off..

I've asked before but no one could answer me, are the townships subjected to power failures?
 
ironrod said:
Is there anything that can be done by the average black South African to remedy this situation, right now?

Is there any power in their hands that could assist in twisting the guavamint hand?
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No,there is nothing that can be done.
I am sorry to be the one to inform you of this............
The damage is too severe......
I do not blame you..BUT, i blame the people that got paid to prevent this from happening.
Now it is too late to do anything,we are on a rollercoaster ride to never -never land.

The impact this will have on the economy during the next ten years is simply too immense to comprehend.

We are going to have negative growth,rampant unemployment,famine and no 2010 soccer.

We will put billions into ensuring that the electricity network improves,money that is needed for other projects.

During this period other infrastructure will get neglected,like roads,water supply and sewage disposal.

We will have a new modern electricity grid, paid for in taxes by those few that will still be employed(because no financial institution in the world will make the money available as the risk would be to high)but we won't be able to drink our water.(or take a bath)

We will have new warplanes and ships and modern missile systems,with nobody to fight.
The war we need to fight was lost when affirmative action started and incompetent managers was employed.
No, there is nothing anyone can do now.....
 
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