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[websquadza]

@websquadza - have you heard anything about when this will be lit up and what kind of latency/pricing improvements it'll offer, if any?

Google says new undersea cable will triple internet speeds in South Africa

The new subsea Equiano cable linking Africa and Europe will significantly decrease internet costs and triple internet speeds in South Africa, says Google.

businesstech.co.za

3Gbit here I come!!!

No news yet. We get excited once they're actually built, live and selling. There are a surplus of cables landing, which is great for transmission (L2 path between Europe and SA) costs which are still very costly, and even better for resiliency. I don't expect a major change in latency with any new cable (give or take a few ms), but it's impossible to know until it's actually lit and tested.

For home users, there won't be any direct cost benefit to lower transit costs, just an assurance that ISPs can continue to service growing bandwidth needs and procure (most importantly for us) more resiliency across more cables, and then, more capacity. Most ISPs swallow the bulk of transit costs as it is- FNO line rentals make up the majority of costs due to the competitive nature of the FTTH industry.

 

[Seeyou]

One still has to get through Octotel first.

Yeah I'm not sure Octotel can handle even 1mbps without packet loss.

 

[websquadza]

@websquadza - have you heard anything about when this will be lit up and what kind of latency/pricing improvements it'll offer, if any?

Google says new undersea cable will triple internet speeds in South Africa

The new subsea Equiano cable linking Africa and Europe will significantly decrease internet costs and triple internet speeds in South Africa, says Google.

businesstech.co.za

And on a side note - this is title pure clickbait. More apt would have been "New cable to triple available capacity in South Africa." Fundamentally, the business models behind these multi-billion rand investments is quite simple. Build an expensive point to point cable, specify a ROI period and make those payments. If the capacity is 3X, they can sell 3x the capacity at the same price assuming the ROI term is fixed and all other factors remain the same. So 1 cable system now sells X Gbps for 60% cheaper than the rest. That's great. The others drop their pricing or upgrade their capacity to catch up, and as a whole, the transmission market becomes more affordable. Transit providers buy up this capacity and connect SA to the rest of the world, add more resiliently and more capacity.

Edit: I see MyBB wrote a much better article in this regard - nice work to the team: https://mybroadband.co.za/news/broa...ill-triple-south-africas-internet-speeds.html

 

[Seeyou]

And on a side note - this is title pure clickbait. More apt would have been "New cable to triple available capacity in South Africa." Fundamentally, the business models behind these multi-billion rand investments is quite simple. Build an expensive point to point cable, specify a ROI period and make those payments. If the capacity is 3X, they can sell 3x the capacity at the same price assuming the ROI term is fixed and all other factors remain the same. So 1 cable system now sells X Gbps for 60% cheaper than the rest. That's great. The others drop their pricing or upgrade their capacity to catch up, and as a whole, the transmission market becomes more affordable. Transit providers buy up this capacity and connect SA to the rest of the world, add more resiliently and more capacity.

Edit: I see MyBB wrote a much better article in this regard - nice work to the team: https://mybroadband.co.za/news/broa...ill-triple-south-africas-internet-speeds.html

Yeah I always take articles with a grain of salt, as everything these days is clickbait and sensationalism. TBH my main interest would've been any improvements in EU latency, but after I examined the cable route I realised it might be a couple of milliseconds at best, as you said.

 

[JustinB]

Shouldn't need to use a DHCP server in v6, just Router Advertisement. And it's nigh on impossible to exhaust a /64. Can you send me an export of your v6 settings? (Terminal: /ipv6 export) - copy that into a PM so I can check what's happening.

Pls don't forget to check my config.

 

[Outta Gas Eddie]

@websquadza I think your Durban speedtest server is in need of some TLC as it's capping the upload speed to 50Mbps (and sometimes the download speeds as well). Other servers in the Durban area seem fine.

web sQuad:


123NET:

 

[websquadza]

@websquadza I think your Durban speedtest server is in need of some TLC as it's capping the upload speed to 50Mbps (and sometimes the download speeds as well). Other servers in the Durban area seem fine.

web sQuad:
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123NET:
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Thanks for this. Will ask the team to check it out

 

[Seeyou]

@websquadza Ticket #313173 has gone unanswered for 11 days. Are we just accepting this new normal from Octotel?

 

[Seeyou]

Odd as well that I can only get anywhere approaching line speed on the Web Squad speedtest server. Upload speed also still nowhere near 100mbps.

Web Squad:


Vox:


Cool Ideas:


Mweb:


Joburg speed test to Web Squad server is a lost cause:

 

[websquadza]

Odd as well that I can only get anywhere approaching line speed on the Web Squad speedtest server. Upload speed also still nowhere near 100mbps.

Web Squad:


Vox:


Cool Ideas:


Mweb:


Joburg speed test to Web Squad server is a lost cause:

JHB server is still borked. New hardware for JHB speedtest server only arrived at the office this week and minus a 10G NIC sadly- trying to source one there.

CPT is fine from what we see. That’s just your FNO… but stand to be corrected.

DBN seems to just have needed a restart.

 

[S7wede]

WinMTR statistics​

Host	%	Sent	Recv	Best	Avrg	Wrst	Last
192.168.0.1	0	101	101	0	0	0	0
160.119.237.127	0	101	101	0	2	3	2
160.119.237.69	0	101	101	1	3	7	3
160.119.232.133	0	101	101	1	3	7	3
160.119.232.124	23	53	41	8	10	29	10
197.148.65.165	29	49	35	9	10	13	12
197.148.71.6	20	57	46	27	28	43	28
197.148.71.14	23	54	42	0	170	172	171
197.148.66.41	23	53	41	169	171	174	171
195.66.226.234	22	56	44	171	177	232	172
137.221.79.33	19	59	48	0	206	383	179
No response from host	100	21	0	0	0	0	0
137.221.65.77	27	49	36	176	409	2812	2812
137.221.78.69	19	59	48	0	178	189	177
137.221.66.47	14	65	56	176	178	187	178
185.60.112.157	23	53	41	176	178	179	178

Seems to be having issues at that specific node again. Might want to check what is causing this reoccurring packet loss.

 

[websquadza]

WinMTR statistics​

Host	%	Sent	Recv	Best	Avrg	Wrst	Last
192.168.0.1	0	101	101	0	0	0	0
160.119.237.127	0	101	101	0	2	3	2
160.119.237.69	0	101	101	1	3	7	3
160.119.232.133	0	101	101	1	3	7	3
160.119.232.124	23	53	41	8	10	29	10
197.148.65.165	29	49	35	9	10	13	12
197.148.71.6	20	57	46	27	28	43	28
197.148.71.14	23	54	42	0	170	172	171
197.148.66.41	23	53	41	169	171	174	171
195.66.226.234	22	56	44	171	177	232	172
137.221.79.33	19	59	48	0	206	383	179
No response from host	100	21	0	0	0	0	0
137.221.65.77	27	49	36	176	409	2812	2812
137.221.78.69	19	59	48	0	178	189	177
137.221.66.47	14	65	56	176	178	187	178
185.60.112.157	23	53	41	176	178	179	178

Seems to be having issues at that specific node again. Might want to check what is causing this reoccurring packet loss.

Picking up some issues on NLD between JHB and KZN. One path is down again and we’re picking up packet loss on the second path. We’ve escalated to the vendor.

 

[Savy561]

@websquadza
Yeah JHB link down again. Can't connect to steam, discord and seing massive packetloss pinging your JHB link.

 

[websquadza]

@websquadza
Yeah JHB link down again. Can't connect to steam, discord and seing massive packetloss pinging your JHB link.

Picking up some issues on NLD between JHB and KZN. One path is down again and we’re picking up packet loss on the second path. We’ve escalated to the vendor.

We’re aware of the issue and it’s been escalated to the path vendor who are investigating. Seeing packet loss for anything larger than a standard ICMP packet. Apologies for the inconvenience caused.

 

[Savy561]

We’re aware of the issue and it’s been escalated to the path vendor who are investigating. Seeing packet loss for anything larger than a standard ICMP packet. Apologies for the inconvenience caused.

Thanks for the update. Netflix not loading at all and it's kinda funny how reliant we've become on ease of use streaming these days as the family are treating this like load shedding lol.

 

[JOEY_8]

DSTV Now stopped working for about an hour now. Hope these issues are resolved soon because today the internet speeds have been quite bad.

 

[websquadza]

DSTV Now stopped working for about an hour now. Hope these issues are resolved soon because today the internet speeds have been quite bad.

Seems the DSTV issue is a DSTV one- can’t load streams off net either. We’ve sent their NOC a message.

Edit: able to pick up DSTV streams on net and off net with a quick retry/reload.

With regards to NLD issue, vendor has made some changes and been much more stable for the past 2-3 hours. We’re monitoring the link closely for any further hiccups.

 

[JOEY_8]

Thanks for the update. My issue is probably unrelated since I see other neighbours complaining about their lines being down since 7/8pm too.

Ticket Created #438771

 

[Seeyou]

Not in production yet. Running tests to see how traffic is routed and what changes to expect. No ETA on production yet. Will update later this week once we’re happy. Thanks for your patience.

Just got black-holed again after a reboot cleared the download limits. No update on this?

 

[S7wede]

WinMTR statistics​

Host	%	Sent	Recv	Best	Avrg	Wrst	Last
192.168.0.1	0	100	100	0	0	1	0
160.119.237.127	0	100	100	0	2	4	3
160.119.237.69	0	100	100	1	3	24	4
160.119.232.133	0	100	100	1	3	15	3
160.119.232.124	12	69	61	8	10	12	10
197.148.65.165	12	70	62	8	10	12	10
197.148.71.6	8	78	72	26	28	30	28
197.148.71.14	10	74	67	169	170	173	172
197.148.66.41	14	66	57	0	170	172	171
195.66.226.234	14	68	59	171	175	232	171
137.221.79.33	11	74	66	176	203	384	179
No response from host	100	21	0	0	0	0	0
137.221.65.77	10	73	66	176	323	1539	189
137.221.78.69	12	72	64	0	180	289	176
137.221.66.47	17	62	52	176	178	196	176
185.60.112.157	14	67	58	176	178	196	178

I'm guessing that load shedding must have reset whatever changes they made