Web Squad ISP

[luckystrike]

Just checking in with other Apex players RE this season. Are you guys lagging / feeling like there's packet loss, regardless of latency? I can't get a single non laggy game, and I'm wondering if something's changed at WS, or Octotel, or if it's a general server issue with Apex.

I find the servers feel much better!

I am playing on Singapore only. And i am on my own vpn.

Found that exitlag/gameVPN and those stuff make me lag way more than my own vpn even if its low ping on those services.

120 ping on Singapore is great this season. Best that it ever was!

 

[Seeyou]

I find the servers feel much better!

I am playing on Singapore only. And i am on my own vpn.

Found that exitlag/gameVPN and those stuff make me lag way more than my own vpn even if its low ping on those services.

120 ping on Singapore is great this season. Best that it ever was!

Hehe, pretty much the opposite of my experience. Do you mind sharing the details of your VPN? Where you're hosting / what you're running on it etc?

 

[Soul Assassin]

I find the servers feel much better!

I am playing on Singapore only. And i am on my own vpn.

Found that exitlag/gameVPN and those stuff make me lag way more than my own vpn even if its low ping on those services.

120 ping on Singapore is great this season. Best that it ever was!

Seconded yes please, if I can just setup a VPN for me and my 2 friends to play Singapore that would be the bees knees.

 

[luckystrike]

Ok here i go!

You guys at websquad are lucky since you do not have to use a relay server like i do. Since you already have direct capacity to Singapore.

The problem that you have (same as some other VPS company's in South africa) you only have transit to some ip's in Singapore.

So the solution is to Host your own VPN in Singapore and you will just use that as a gateway to apex servers.

That will guarantee that you get a low ping to all IP's in Singapore. And the nice thing about Singapore servers are they are all in the same zone. Not like EU when you select London and you land on Frankfurt.

I Currently use https://www.vultr.com/

You can test ping to it at https://sgp-ping.vultr.com/ or just to ip :45.32.100.168

Looking at websquads looking glass

[capetown.lg.as328137.net] ping to 45.32.100.168​

SEQ HOST SIZE TTL TIME STATUS
0 45.32.100.168 56 52 130ms
1 45.32.100.168 56 52 133ms
2 45.32.100.168 56 52 134ms
3 45.32.100.168 56 52 130ms
4 45.32.100.168 56 52 130ms
sent=5 received=5 packet-loss=0% min-rtt=130ms avg-rtt=131ms
max-rtt=134ms

[durban.lg.as328137.net] ping to 45.32.100.168​

SEQ HOST SIZE TTL TIME STATUS
0 45.32.100.168 56 53 124ms
1 45.32.100.168 56 53 125ms
2 45.32.100.168 56 53 124ms
3 45.32.100.168 56 53 128ms
4 45.32.100.168 56 53 124ms
sent=5 received=5 packet-loss=0% min-rtt=124ms avg-rtt=125ms
max-rtt=128ms

And Johannesburg is normally 115 ms. Maybe Websquad can look at specific ip routing from JHB. And it will depend on your own IP at vultr.

So in summary you will get ping to your VPS in Singapore of

JHB : +- 117
CPT: +- 132
DBN: +- 126

I use the 3rd option at https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/#pricing

That is 1 gig ram 1 cpu and 1000 gig data that works out at max $5.75($5 + vat of 0.75) per month if you run your vps 24/7 the whole month. Since vultr only charge you if you use your VPS at them. I run mine 24/7

Choose Server : Cloud Compute
Server location: Singapore

https://imgur.com/6twvTaT

Server type: Ubuntu 21.10 x64
And Server size : $5

https://imgur.com/oTSGkiw

Then you just run wireguard on your vps.

And that can be done very easily with this Wireguard road warrior script for multiple users.

https://github.com/Nyr/wireguard-install

And then you run wireguard on your pc when you want to play in Singapore. Since your ping will be low for any game you play in Singapore.

The end result for me playing from Pretoria : And i have to use a relay server in JHB since i am with a different ISP and that adds a few ms

https://imgur.com/YzHIiAO

You would obviously just have low ping to singapore.

I am running this whole thing on my Opensense router and routing all Singapore IP's to my VPN in Singapore and all other IP's over my defualt ISP.

But that is a whole different setup

Hope this helps! And you can make as many Wireguard profiles on your vps as you want to share with your friends at websquad and it will cost you Max $5.75 a month as long as you use less than 1000gig.

I hope this makes sense ! I typed this really fast since we have loadshedding in 5 mins.

 

[Seeyou]

Ok here i go!

You guys at websquad are lucky since you do not have to use a relay server like i do. Since you already have direct capacity to Singapore.

The problem that you have (same as some other VPS company's in South africa) you only have transit to some ip's in Singapore.

So the solution is to Host your own VPN in Singapore and you will just use that as a gateway to apex servers.

That will guarantee that you get a low ping to all IP's in Singapore. And the nice thing about Singapore servers are they are all in the same zone. Not like EU when you select London and you land on Frankfurt.

I Currently use https://www.vultr.com/

You can test ping to it at https://sgp-ping.vultr.com/ or just to ip :45.32.100.168

Looking at websquads looking glass

[capetown.lg.as328137.net] ping to 45.32.100.168​

SEQ HOST SIZE TTL TIME STATUS
0 45.32.100.168 56 52 130ms
1 45.32.100.168 56 52 133ms
2 45.32.100.168 56 52 134ms
3 45.32.100.168 56 52 130ms
4 45.32.100.168 56 52 130ms
sent=5 received=5 packet-loss=0% min-rtt=130ms avg-rtt=131ms
max-rtt=134ms

[durban.lg.as328137.net] ping to 45.32.100.168​

SEQ HOST SIZE TTL TIME STATUS
0 45.32.100.168 56 53 124ms
1 45.32.100.168 56 53 125ms
2 45.32.100.168 56 53 124ms
3 45.32.100.168 56 53 128ms
4 45.32.100.168 56 53 124ms
sent=5 received=5 packet-loss=0% min-rtt=124ms avg-rtt=125ms
max-rtt=128ms

And Johannesburg is normally 115 ms. Maybe Websquad can look at specific ip routing from JHB. And it will depend on your own IP at vultr.

So in summary you will get ping to your VPS in Singapore of

JHB : +- 117
CPT: +- 132
DBN: +- 126

I use the 3rd option at https://www.vultr.com/products/cloud-compute/#pricing

That is 1 gig ram 1 cpu and 1000 gig data that works out at max $5.75($5 + vat of 0.75) per month if you run your vps 24/7 the whole month. Since vultr only charge you if you use your VPS at them. I run mine 24/7

Choose Server : Cloud Compute
Server location: Singapore

https://imgur.com/6twvTaT

Server type: Ubuntu 21.10 x64
And Server size : $5

https://imgur.com/oTSGkiw

Then you just run wireguard on your vps.

And that can be done very easily with this Wireguard road warrior script for multiple users.

https://github.com/Nyr/wireguard-install

And then you run wireguard on your pc when you want to play in Singapore. Since your ping will be low for any game you play in Singapore.

The end result for me playing from Pretoria : And i have to use a relay server in JHB since i am with a different ISP and that adds a few ms

https://imgur.com/YzHIiAO

You would obviously just have low ping to singapore.

I am running this whole thing on my Opensense router and routing all Singapore IP's to my VPN in Singapore and all other IP's over my defualt ISP.

But that is a whole different setup

Hope this helps! And you can make as many Wireguard profiles on your vps as you want to share with your friends at websquad and it will cost you Max $5.75 a month as long as you use less than 1000gig.

I hope this makes sense ! I typed this really fast since we have loadshedding in 5 mins.

I actually guessed you were using either Linode or Vultr and Wireguard after I typed my post, but I wanted to double check Thanks for the info - going to give it a shot.

 

[luckystrike]

The above method will also make it easy for websquad to just add your vps IP on SAFE capacity to Singapore. And not every IP that comes and goes with servers going up and down for apex or any other game for that matter in Singapore.

If you get your server running at vultr you can pm me your IP and root password that they will give you on your dashboard and I can setup wireguard for you and friends if you want.

I have done it a few times so I can do it fast.

 

[Soul Assassin]

What's the extra steps if your ISP isn't Web Squad?

 

[luckystrike]

Move to websquad

If you are not on an ISP that has capacity to Singapore. Then you must host a VPS in jhb with a hosting company that has capacity on SAFE. Elitehost/datakeepers and then setup a connection from pc=>JHB VPS => Singapore VPS.

That is a lot more difficult. And i have not found an easy to explain option yet.

 

[Seeyou]

So far so good - definitely a lot more stable than VPNGame/ExitLag. Occasional microbursts of lag every few games, but I suspect those are server issues and not the VPN. Had some great, lag-free games this afternoon, think I'll be cancelling the overloaded gaming VPN services and sticking with this.

Thanks for the recommendation!

 

[CrypticZA]

There is a weird audio lag when doing anything, like if you loot something half a second later the audio queue plays, when you're looting a box it feels like someone is looting it with you.

But I haven't had an actual laggy server, I know friends have had slowmo laggy servers.

Ah this explains what I witnessed... i only played like 5 or 6 games and got bored of the new map having to run for like 27 hours to find someone was a prowler hit my friend and she used a shield cell and like a couple seconds after it was done I was like SOMEONE NEAR US I HEARD A CELL... I love how when you change between like arenas and normal now it pushes your CPU to 100% for like 20 seconds...

 

[luckystrike]

Well you will get a apex server now and then that fails. But that's just apex. So far I had the best gaming fun with apex playing on Singapore with 120 ping from Pretoria. So much better than playing on EU with minimum of 160 on London.

And then you are not even Guaranteed to play only on London.

 

[Seeyou]

Well you will get a apex server now and then that fails. But that's just apex. So far I had the best gaming fun with apex playing on Singapore with 120 ping from Pretoria. So much better than playing on EU with minimum of 160 on London.

And then you are not even Guaranteed to play only on London.

Yep - I don't quite get the 120ms you lucky bastards achieve from JHB, but 130-140ms is still great and as you say, we often get shunted to the garbage servers in Finland when playing on EU, and latency goes nuts.

 

[Seeyou]

Right, VPS secured with a key, firewall installed and only SSH and Wireguard ports open. Singapore VPN for $5/month FTW

Thanks again for recommending the solution @luckystrike

I'm actually curious how one based in London would perform. I already have a VPS with Vultr in London, I might just install Wireguard there and check for the fun of it.

 

[mystic007]

@websquadza is there any possibility of gettting support over a weekend? I need assistance with ticket #734616 I logged this afternoon.

 

[mystic007]

@websquadza is there any possibility of getting support over a weekend? I need assistance with ticket #734616 I logged this afternoon.

Thanks I got a response to my ticket and the issue is now resolved

 

[HowTo]

@websquadza

Hi I get a lot of DHCP failures. Don't know what to look at.
This comes and goes intermittent.

See attached BattleNet failure to connect and then my Camera system also fail. All at the same time.

Don't know if this could be the problem. I'm paying for a static IP which I never requested.
Mailed accounts but never got a reply. I only requested for IPV6 setting for my modem.
Which was done.

 

[Concentric]

@websquadza

I know it's the weekend, but ont light has been red since yesterday Ticket ID: 216935.
Thanks

 

[Deadmanza]

@websquadza international dead...

 

[JOEY_8]

Something seems off. Zoom refuses to load without a VPN. Pages like https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201800359-Zoom-Cloud-Service-Status refuse to load.

 

[Senshi]

Also seeing some weirdness on my end. Some sites are unaccessible as well.

@websquadza any updates?

Vuma Aerial, Roodepoort.