Weight loss

D3nz said:
Shy? SHY???? Who the hell are you and what have you done with Shaun?
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Stop stalking me on fb damnit :p

Chicken Boo said:
You might think this makes fat loss a piece of cake (hmm) but it's not so simple - riding with no/low energy is no fun and finding a balance between getting enough energy to manage riding every day and still losing fat is a fine line.
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I am having the same issue. Trying to balance my intake in order for me to still have the energy for weight training and still lose fat at the same time. Trying a lower carb eating plan this week which hasn't exactly helped.
 
Chicken Boo said:
I ditched weight training completely earlier this year in favour of bodyweight training. However I began doing a weighted exercise (Turkish get-ups) a few weeks ago, but since I'm still learning the move it's very light weight. Bodyweight training is the biz. Anywhere, any time you feel like cranking out a set of something you can just do it. And the sense of freedom is, I dunno, not something I found from training with weights. I highly recommend BW training :)
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Been trying this and its going pretty well - thanks Chicken boo I wouldn't have been able to do it without you :cry:

:D
 
ShaunSA said:
I am having the same issue. Trying to balance my intake in order for me to still have the energy for weight training and still lose fat at the same time. Trying a lower carb eating plan this week which hasn't exactly helped.
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I've experimented with various eating methods and my conclusion (for me) is that low-carb/keto works very nicely if I have no physical demands, but for doing any prolonged activity (like more than a few minutes straight) gonna need some carbs. I found cycled keto was okay in terms of results but kind of a pain to manage, too many details and things to keep track of... I like to keep things as simple as possible. (cycled keto means something like following strict keto during the week, then a carb 'top-up' on the weekend to replenish glycogen stores).

googoodoll said:
Been trying this and its going pretty well - thanks Chicken boo I wouldn't have been able to do it without you :cry: :D
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You're welcome, and I'll be happy to assist anyone else interested.
Stick with it though, it's very rewarding when you later 'suddenly' find yourself able to do moves that you never could before. I only recently achieved being able to do l-sits off the floor, after a few months of being able to do them off raised objects, and yeah I'm kinda getting addicted to just popping them all over the place now :D
 
BW exercises are good in some respects, although it really depends on what you want to look like - If you're looking for between ottermode and built (which is my goal) then weights are a must - especially for chest - push ups are basically useless after a while... you need to tear and rebuild muscle to build.

A lot of the time people feel they keep need to "lose weight" because they don't have much shape - but this is often because of lack of muscle and not due to excess fat
 
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THose get up things look interesting. Will incorporate a couple of those I think.
Worried I'll drop the thing on my head though!
 
DrewChan said:
BW exercises are good in some respects, although it really depends on what you want to look like - If you're looking for between ottermode and built (which is my goal) then weights are a must - especially for chest - push ups are basically useless after a while... you need to tear and rebuild muscle to build.

A lot of the time people feel they keep need to "lose weight" because they don't have much shape - but this is often because of lack of muscle and not due to excess fat
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Ottermode?
 
ShaunSA said:
OK I just googled the Turkish get-up stuff :eek:
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heh yeah it's definitely a compound exercise... but you don't have to, or indeed shouldn't, do it in one quick move - there are 3 distinct stages where you can pause and catch your breath.
It's proven an interesting exercise for me after not touching weights for a long time, because it highlighted what happens with guys doing weights... ego wants to take over and start running the show. Thing is an injured ego doesn't hurt, an injured body does.
To start learning the exercise I decided 6-7kg on dumbbell would be enough. Right away my ego roars in, "What colour panties are you wearing today? COME ON 10kg at least..." It displeases me to say I did load 10kg on, and while I did manage okay I could feel this was somewhat heavier than I should be starting with (having to concentrate on the weight/effort rather than where I was putting what limb). I backed down to 7 and have been slowly adding weight since, on my next workout it'll be 10. So my ego was quite happy to put my body at injury-risk for the massive saving of 3 weeks of training :rolleyes:

DrewChan said:
push ups are basically useless after a while... you need to tear and rebuild muscle to build.
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nuh-uh... I also used to believe that. If regular/floor pushups are too easy there are many ways to make it more challenging, ultimately leading towards one-arm push-ups. But yes it comes down to goals, BW training is not the best course to increased mass (in fact extraneous mass quickly becomes undesirable as the moves get harder).

DrewChan said:
A lot of the time people feel they keep need to "lose weight" because they don't have much shape - but this is often because of lack of muscle and not due to excess fat
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This is true, people (I think particularly women) believe they'll look good after losing weight without understanding that it's underlying muscle that gives limbs a nice shape, not just a lack of fat.

Sinbad said:
THose get up things look interesting. Will incorporate a couple of those I think.
Worried I'll drop the thing on my head though!
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Tell your ego to stfu and start light ;) could even just grab something like a milk bottle and practise with that. and in case it needs saying, this is not an exercise to take to (anywhere near) failure...
 
That turkish get - up looks unnecessary dangerous - I'll stick with squats and deadlifts thankyou
 
For what it's worth, a few tips that are working for my cutting cycle at the moment: I have done this for 6 weeks so far and am so impressed how easy it was that I am going to carry on. I am 6ft and was 91kg at the start. I trained 4 to 6 times per week for between 90 and 120 min, 55 min of which was cardio spaced out over the workout session.

Gym in the morning on an empty stomach, drinking a preworkout before and either creatine or MRP protein after. Your body will have to use stored fat to use during the gym session. It is easier for your body to metabolise muscle than fat, so expect to lose a bit of muscle size. Train hard on weights to ensure you retain your strength as you cut. Eating breakfast when I got home from gym spaced out my eating and really gave me a headstart on my overall daily calorie intake, which I think might be the secret to this.

Then the other 70% really is diet. No simple sugar. No compromise. No chocolate. No potato crisps. No takeaway. Lots of fruit, ideally fruit that you enjoy which helps you stick to it for a while. I bought Woolies strawberries, kiwi, pineapple chunks, coconut pieces etc. And ate it as a snack at work. Maintain Low carbs where you can. I replaced oven chips with roast veg.

I know this won't appeal to everyone, but after 15 years of training, I have just this month realised just how important diet's role is. I have never really been able to lose more than 2 or 3 kg of fat before resorting to my old eating habits. This time I really stuck it out and have lost 7kg of fat so far in just under 2 months, bringing my weight down to 84, which I haven't seen on the scale in over a decade.

I hope this inspires 1 or 2 people in a similar position to stick to their guns. When you see the results and the fat keeps dropping off, it really helps you to eat better, push harder and change your life for the better.
 
bromster said:
This time I really stuck it out and have lost 7kg of fat so far in just under 2 months, bringing my weight down to 84, which I haven't seen on the scale in over a decade.
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Awesome. I disagree with both your method and eating style, but heck if it works for you brilliant, keep it up.
 
bromster said:
For what it's worth, a few tips that are working for my cutting cycle at the moment: I have done this for 6 weeks so far and am so impressed how easy it was that I am going to carry on. I am 6ft and was 91kg at the start. I trained 4 to 6 times per week for between 90 and 120 min, 55 min of which was cardio spaced out over the workout session.

Gym in the morning on an empty stomach, drinking a preworkout before and either creatine or MRP protein after. Your body will have to use stored fat to use during the gym session. It is easier for your body to metabolise muscle than fat, so expect to lose a bit of muscle size. Train hard on weights to ensure you retain your strength as you cut. Eating breakfast when I got home from gym spaced out my eating and really gave me a headstart on my overall daily calorie intake, which I think might be the secret to this.

Then the other 70% really is diet. No simple sugar. No compromise. No chocolate. No potato crisps. No takeaway. Lots of fruit, ideally fruit that you enjoy which helps you stick to it for a while. I bought Woolies strawberries, kiwi, pineapple chunks, coconut pieces etc. And ate it as a snack at work. Maintain Low carbs where you can. I replaced oven chips with roast veg.

I know this won't appeal to everyone, but after 15 years of training, I have just this month realised just how important diet's role is. I have never really been able to lose more than 2 or 3 kg of fat before resorting to my old eating habits. This time I really stuck it out and have lost 7kg of fat so far in just under 2 months, bringing my weight down to 84, which I haven't seen on the scale in over a decade.

I hope this inspires 1 or 2 people in a similar position to stick to their guns. When you see the results and the fat keeps dropping off, it really helps you to eat better, push harder and change your life for the better.
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Thanks for the motivation :) and well done!
 
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