Why intel sux so badly.

[czc]

Also, fix that grammer.

And why does Cad perform better on an Intel chip?

 

[The_Techie]

Oh yes, before I get accused of being biased I'd like to point out that all of my posts today have been posted from my AMD 3800+ system that I still use daily

 

[PeterCH]

Also, fix that grammer.

Oh dear, how do you propose we should 'fix' that Mr Grammer?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelsey_Grammer

 

[The_Unbeliever]

Also, fix that grammer.

Muhuhahaha.

 

[acidrain]

Am i wrong in saying that according to this the PhII 955BE is the best value for money as it shows the less cost/1% performance or am i reading that graph wrong

 

[The_Techie]

Am i wrong in saying that according to this the PhII 955BE is the best value for money as it shows the less cost/1% performance or am i reading that graph wrong

You are correct, it has the best price/performance ratio.

 

[Keeper]

intel is more recognized and that's why people buy it - it's not who has the fastest chip or even the most bang for your buck! amd is just not as well known to the general computer buyer...

 

[Bismuth]

Holy cr@p dude, that was a post-and-a-half in more ways than one.

When buy components, I look for what I can get within my budget. I will prefer Intel, but if AMD or someone came along with something significantly better for basically the same price, then I will consider the alternative.

I am not going to ignore Intel, or AMD or whatever, just because I don't like them, when making a purchasing decision.

B

 

[Rouxenator]

I see a lot of you are comparing the latest intels against the latest AMDs and thereby trying to justify that intel does not sux.

It is a fact that the new intels perform better than AMD. You cannot argue with those facts.

There it another type of fact that you can also not argue against and that is facts of history. My whole post'n'half is entirely based on happenings in the past. It aims to educate the uneducated about intels history and highlight the amount of failures and shady practices they pursue. I did not even mention the EU antitrust law suit against them - there is so much more I can add if I wanted to.

So to summaries...
Fact : intel is king of x86 performance at the moment.
Fact : intel has a history clouded in failure and unethical behavouir.

If only performance matters to you - buy intel. If care about ethics and fair trade, read up on the history of things.

Should anyone want to comment/add/correct any of the historical statements cover in my story on why intel suxs, please feel free. But leave the benchmarks out of this because we all know currently is performs the best.

P.S. thanks for the signature typo you guys picked up

 

[The_Techie]

I see a lot of you are comparing the latest intels against the latest AMDs and thereby trying to justify that intel does not sux.

It is a fact that the new intels perform better than AMD. You cannot argue with those facts.

There it another type of fact that you can also not argue against and that is facts of history. My whole post'n'half is entirely based on happenings in the past. It aims to educate the uneducated about intels history and highlight the amount of failures and shady practices they pursue. I did not even mention the EU antitrust law suit against them - there is so much more I can add if I wanted to.

So to summaries...
Fact : intel is king of x86 performance at the moment.
Fact : intel has a history clouded in failure and unethical behavouir.

If only performance matters to you - buy intel. If care about ethics and fair trade, read up on the history of things.

Should anyone want to comment/add/correct any of the historical statements cover in my story on why intel suxs, please feel free. But leave the benchmarks out of this because we all know currently is performs the best.

P.S. thanks for the signature typo you guys picked up

Then don't say you're only considering AMD/VIA because you want a superior architecture, say you're only considering them because you don't like Intel.

I don't care much for a company's history, it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference here and now in terms of the performance I need from my PC. I might as well boycott all German products because of World War 2, or all American products because of the Iraqi war.

 

[Rouxenator]

Then don't say you're only considering AMD/VIA because you want a superior architecture, say you're only considering them because you don't like Intel.

Correct because :
1) intel has a very questionable history and
2) based on the amount of copy&paste intel does from AMD I am bound to get newer technologies first from AMD.

 

[The_Techie]

Correct because :
1) intel has a very questionable history and
2) based on the amount of copy&paste intel does from AMD I am bound to get newer technologies first from AMD.

As a matter of interest, do you drive a Mercedes-Benz S-class? It was the first commercial car with ABS, ESP, crumple zones and three-point seatbelts, so I can only assume you don't support the other manufacturers who just "copy&paste" these features to their cars.

Source

 

[killadoob]

As a matter of interest, do you drive a Mercedes-Benz S-class? It was the first commercial car with ABS, ESP, crumple zones and three-point seatbelts, so I can only assume you don't support the other manufacturers who just "copy&paste" these features to their cars.

Source

LOL

 

[Rouxenator]

If I was spending in that price bracket then yes - I would buy the S-Class because Mercedes has a much more reputable history than many of the competitors. They are also open with their standards and shares a lot of their fuel saving technologies with Volkswagen who really needs it badly because they have done nothing of the kind on their own.

 

[The_Techie]

If I was spending in that price bracket then yes - I would buy the S-Class because Mercedes has a much more reputable history than many of the competitors. They are also open with their standards and shares a lot of their fuel saving technologies with Volkswagen who really needs it badly because they have done nothing of the kind on their own.

You didn't answer my question

Did you know they produced vehicles for Germany in World War 2 with forced workers and POWs?

During the Second World War, Daimler-Benz is known to have exploited more than 30,000 forced workers and prisoners of war, some of whom would eventually strike, and be sent to concentration camps. This working force soon became essential to the production capacity of the company after 1941, and was a key to the construction of Nazi Germany's Luftwaffe and war machine.

Source

So you would support a company with a dodgy history :erm:

OK, I'm done playing devil's advocate, someone else can take over

 

[Rouxenator]

That is relevant to intels history how again ?
In what World War did intel take part ?

Stop trying to cover up intels pathetic and unethical history by derailing the thread...

 

[killadoob]

So roux will support a company that exploited and sent people to concentration camps muhahahahahaha.

 

[The_Techie]

That is relevant to intels history how again ?
In what World War did intel take part ?

Stop trying to cover up intels pathetic and unethical history by derailing the thread...

Analogy: drawing a comparison in order to show a similarity in some respect

I am not covering up anything, I have not denied nor confirmed any of Intel's historic activities if you read my posts carefully.

I am merely pointing out a bit of hypocrisy. You won't support Intel because of their dodgy history, you insist on supporting AMD/VIA because they pioneer new technology. However, you are willing to support a company with a dodgy history (Mercedez-Benz) and you supported (I assume) a different manufacturer that "stole" the ABS, three-point seatbelt, etc technology from Mercedez-Benz by incorporating it into their product.

Analogy != derailing.

 

[PeterCH]

You didn't answer my question

Did you know they produced vehicles for Germany in World War 2 with forced workers and POWs?



Source

So you would support a company with a dodgy history :erm:

OK, I'm done playing devil's advocate, someone else can take over

Volkswagen was even worse than Daimmler in WW2. So if he's supporting MB as opposed to VW, he's on the side of angels.

 

[d0b33]

Roux is PR manager for Intel, he makes AMD users look like trolls.